LOL. Good call. I'm not sure I can take any pinball manufacturer seriously without one. In fact I'd go so far as to say this may be the real reason other manufacturers are struggling. "Making pinball is hard...." they say. "Making pinball without a wall of microwaves is impossible" is what they should be saying.

Its a "virtual logo" - its actually just a cutout that shows part of the LCD with the logo displayed on it. Not sure if thats to bypass IP or not. The regular version of AFMr (not the LE etc) doesnt come with the cutout or the Logo on the backboard.

Im not sure of the backstory. I dont know why they dont use the logo actually on the speaker panel. Would look so much better than the virtual one.

So I wonder why they don't have the logo printed on the speaker panel, even on the classic edition with the small screen. Seems odd.

It's not on the translite either.

Could do, but doesn't explain why it's not on the translite.

Good catch:

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Agree, sounds like a "loophole".

Because the IP for the game itself would have come from Wayne to PPS, but no rights Bally/Williams logos etc.

This new AFM incarnation is so different though, it doesnt really need the logo. It will never appease the "purist" collector with all its enhancements, so not much point in using it at all. And the people buying it just want an AFM with all the bling and couldnt really care less whether its Stern, Bally, or CGC.

I'm really impressed CGC have managed to set up a fully working and efficient pinball production line relatively quickly (or at least with minimum fuss - I realize this has been in the works for a while and they already produce cabinets, pf's and vids). And they're just about to box the first 100 games!

Everyone talks about competition for Stern, but CGC has really flown under the radar and may end up producing more games than all Sterns competition combined.

Just wish they'd hurry up and make Monster Bash!!

Wasn't green trim supposed to be exclusive to LE? Or did they powder coat it aftermarket?

Was thinking something like that given they got it so early.

You guys are making this hard. Game wasn't even on my radar since Ive owned, restored and sold an original. But seeing these pics.....Damn you pinside!!!

I think CGC learnt a lot from MMr. Whatever Stern does, do the opposite. And replace Rick as your spokesman with someone that knows how to deal with customers.

I was meh on this game when I first saw it at Texas. But I was comparing to my restored original and looking for which elements of the original they changed for the remake - No cutouts on the translite, no Bally logo anywhere on the art, Large in your face colour screen, LED's that didn't look like the original.

Ive since sold my original and miss it. Then I realised that if you stop trying to compare the game to the original, and just see it as a modern update of a great game, the remake is really well done. The upgrades are real, and the bits you miss from the original are just things that appeal to old school collectors - theyre not improvements to the gameplay experience. The way I see it, people looking for a "new" original will never be happy anyway. After this change of mindset, ive ordered an LE.

FWIW, this is where my disappointed SWLE money went.

Now he works for Stern isn't there a conflict of interest here? Knowing he works for Stern, shouldn't we be taking these comments with a grain of salt?

Personally I find Spike flippers a little delayed compared to Sam. But because I can't play a Spike game on a Sam system (as I can play an AFM and an AFMR on 2 different systems) , they're is no way to compare - your brain just adapts to the feel of the shot on that game.

So the comparison is ridiculous. If you played only AFMR you would eventually get used to the timing of the shots, and when you went to play AFM the shots would also feel completely different.

Id think the BOM on Wh20 would kill it given its market value.

Australian games should be leaving any day now. Now it's only a 4 week wait

Mine arrives on Friday also! What are the chances - opposite sides of the planet and all arriving on the same day. Must be Aliens involved.

How can you compare Stern to CGC?

Full credit to CGC for their manufacturing abilities, but they haven't introduced anything new to pinball. Say what you like about Stern, but at least they are creating new games. And lots of them.