Quoted from whitey:
Maybe BBBR is just taking a little longer
Yes it was a typo.
Actually its BBBBr
Quoted from parabol420:
Lloyd, you are a great guy and a tremendous asset to this community, but I really feel you should stop posting stuff like this. You aren't adding anything substantial to the conversation and only getting people hyped up more, ie see the guy who sold his only pin so he could buy CGC #3 because we were told it was announcing at Expo. Unless you are willing to share some inside information, this really doesnt help and in my opinion, only makes it worse.
Way to take the fun out of all of this.
You go girl!
Doug Skor leaving Chicago gaming was just a cover story from the CIA.
The reality is that aliens have taken over Chicago gaming and are going to release Revenge from Mars remake but this time the Martians are the good guys.
Quoted from FarFromHeaven26:
You are in some serious denial. A four year old knows MONSTER BASH is coming. Sorry you are so threatened by the truth.
I don't need to open up an office, I am uttering what has been openly visible for almost a year to the entire pinball community. Physical evidence has been published! Geez!
I love it when Pinside breaks the spirit of a newby....
Quoted from Concretehardt:
I had the opposite experience my MMr LE has been flawless my AFMr LE had flippers so strong that I was afraid they would break something and turning them down seemed to make it worse.. this issue also seemed to cause excessive dimpling of the playfield.
Things have changed since the solenoid version 2 chip was released.
Everything now seems in order and the Machine is Rock Solid reliable and easily controlled through the software.
I guess sometimes it's better to get a machine a little while after the initial release since all of the updates and Bug fixes will be in place.
Such is pinball...
Quoted from Arcade:
It was posted in the West Coast Pinball Club on Facebook that the game would be at a private party Yesterday (Friday) in Reno.
Then radio Silence... WTH
Who does that?
I was there to setup the game.
NDA's signed at the door.
Get yer wallets out...!
Its gorgeous and amazing.
All I can say.
Quoted from BagAJellyDonuts:
There's got to be some sort of visual gimmick that makes the delays all worth it.
I'm all for wild speculation just to take credit for a wild guess that turns out "right".
Could it be that the game arrives with the playfield "planked" as was done on a one off restoration? (I really hope that one is part of the game) Or is it some sort of highly detailed statues? Could it be that the display interlaces movie clips along with the as original "dots"? Lighting and color morphing during gameplay along the ways that WOZ has done?
I just wish there was a date to wait for so I could find out. But more than anything else, I'm surprised how well the lid has been kept on whatever it is.
It's more than worth the wait, really! REALLY!
Get the LE
My lips are also sealed.
Official release is coming soon.
Warm up your credit cards, get your wallets ready.
Get the LE.
My lips are still sealed...
CGC flippers are strong and crisp. They use William's mech's.
AFMr shoots perfectly so does MBr.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:
Flippers do feel different though to original games.
Maybe it is the fact that the game is an emulation and there is a slight delay?
No delay, this has been tested and verified.
The only difference is brand new vs 20 year old tired games.
Oh, and get the LE...
Quoted from pickleric:
I had an AFMr LE. Beautiful game, loved it very much, and really enjoyed playing it. I do agree the flippers did feel different than originals I have shot.
Fellow pinheads that came over to play it commented similar. No one said it was bad, just that the flippers do feel different on the remakes. I am really curious to why that may be. Not trying to offend anyone or stir the pot.
Being hand made, every single game should have a slightly different feel.
This applies to original William's games also. Some of them shot better or worse than others off the same assembly line even back then.
Quoted from DrJoe:
Disagree. All the remakes flip different from any original. The remakes flip late.
This is an old, tired subject.
After all of the testing by independent sources it has been proven to be untrue.
That said, you either like the way a NIB game feels or you do not.
I personally like the way the new games feel.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:
There’s a big discussion about this; the Flippers are mechanically similar as far as I can tell, and they have literally been studied and scrutinised scientifically, electrically a but I think given the recent things we’ve seen with Houdini and TNA its at least possible the issue is less with the mechanics or the speed at which the coil is triggered, but perhaps a minor power distribution issue. I’m speculating of course, but I sure as heck feel like they are different.
Games "break in" after a few thousand plays. Even with new mechs they retain a broken in feel.
It's really a matter of old vs new.
And I agree it's a feel, not something you can quantify.
Same had been said about refitting games with LED's.
They play differently, or at least "feel" different.
Quoted from pinballaddicted:
I think CGC have encountered a licencing issue similar to Stern and the Star Wars Topper. Someone is sitting on an approval that will happen when they are ready.. Extremely frustrating and costly.
I sincerely hope this title is released soon. We have had a spot and money ready for this game since May of this year.
The game is done and finished.
Pinside chased off Doug Skor, Ashley is gone, we dont have a man on the inside any more.
Maybe someone should ask Doug Duba what is going on?
He might be able to tell us?
Does anyone have his number?
Quoted from ctozzi:
Just saw the high res pics on Facebook form CGC, after this long delay I’m definitely not impressed with the topper from the initial pictures. I have their afmrle and the topper is what makes the game a have to have vs original. I’m glad I passed on an Le to this point. I’m not saying the game looks like crap, but I don’t see what the topper adds right now besides some lights. It’s also missing a few favorites for me. I’m sure it will be a great nib but I’m gonna see how it all shakes out during the release.
Are there a lot of animated toppers out there?
All I ever see is static displays with lighting effects.
Show us some pics please.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
I was in on a monster bash remake but now that I see the playfield is a monster bash I’m starting to wonder if I should get a Munsters.
Plus I’ve been waiting 20 years to buy a monster bash and this interminable delay of many months is causing further doubt on whether or not this is the game for me.
Now you're being silly
Quoted from tmntrule999:
Something I have been wanting to say so badly!!!!! Yes!!!! The topper looks so amazing in person with the lights!!!!!! Wait til you all play it in person, the lighting looks so amazing on the toppers!!
It really is well done!
I thought it suited the game and the light show was superb.
Static display or not, it's a really nice high quality sculpture that is beautifully rendered.
Quoted from Graysonsdad:
2/3, not 1/3. So $5,000+
I dont necessarily agree with him but your numbers are further off than his are. I'd still like to see where nice originals are going for $5,000 though.
2/3 off of nib price of $7500 (probably) would be $2500, or 2/3 off of original price? $1700?
Lol, I dont know. silly.
Quoted from DS_Nadine:
Is there any video on Youtube of someone installing that "color chip" to make your MMR or AFMR colored dots?
Wonder what that thing is. Is it a security dongle (and the data allready in the game) or does it contain the Color DMD info? Is ist an SD Card? An Eprom? Parallel Bus Dongle...
Not necessary it's a 2 min install.
Quoted from jawjaw:
I get that. JJP games and Stern LE's are quickly approaching 5 figures. Then you got the special edition, super limited, or whatever that is well over $10000. There are countless threads of people complaining about price increases and high cost of games. You can always compare things to something more expensive but $8000 is still a lot for a pin imo. I remember seeing a MB at Pinballz in Austin for $20,000. If you found one for $15000 that would see like a good deal in comparison. Still doesn't add up to me. Prices go up because people are willing to spend more.
Pinball machines were and are always expensive.
People play at the arcade, then they dont have to buy them.
People buy used games off route.
The price of games is whatever the operator wants to pay.
The home market is new and only lightly tested. The price will be whatever more affluent people can afford or are willing to pay.
Smart people will play on location and save their money for houses and vehicles.
Later on they will be affluent and not care too much about prices.
Quoted from Zablon:
So concerning the boards on these newer machines in general. How has reliability been on them, and how much are they to replace since it doesn't sound like 'repair' is an option for most people(?) Are we going to have to worry about paperweights in 20 years?
In my opinion they are much easier to repair with fewer parts.
Fewer parts equals higher reliability.
Slightly different tools and technique, but easier.
Quoted from Budman:
Yeah but to see it and hear it up close with hi res / glass off video would go a long way in helping us all make a well informed decision. The chart is really great and helpful for sure.
Maybe play it at a distibutor or a show?
There is nothing like seeing it in person, it's just gorgeous!
Get the LE, JMHO...
I continually get to grand finale on TOM on ball 1, maybe with an extra ball or 2.
So, Its up on end waiting to be sold.
Quoted from seenev:
What new Taxation?
Edit: I put it in my cart and went to checkout and there was no tax. I didn't buy it but it looks like $8200 would close the sale.
Online sales tax is the new reality from the recent Supreme Court decision.
Not all states will enact it immediately, but some will.
Over the next couple years as it comes up in their general elections, all states will enact it as law.
They want the money, pure and simple.
Smart money says to make your purchases as soon as possible in the states that haven't enacted the taxes yet.
Quoted from PtownPin:
Not great for the consumer, but local businesses will love it....State taxes are so high in California that saving $700 on a game is a lot....
My hope is that area's with the lowest sales tax will have the highest sales.
This might cause sales taxes to get lower or become zero in some areas in order to compete.
California will however probably never lower taxes, they believe that 100% taxation over time is the correct route to follow to pay for the entitlements they offer.
People can be so childish.
The game is tons of fun.
Recognizable theme with very funny jokes and humor.
Very approachable to pretty much anyone and easy to play.
Looks like a winner to me.
Not everyone is in a pinball competition or a competitor.
Some of us just love pinball and have a lot of fun playing.
Oh, and get the LE
Quoted from NeilMcRae:
Apologies - I don't disagree with that, but when I saw MMR Widescreen at Logan it definitely looks like the graphics had been updated. There is no doubt that the graphics in AFMR and MBR have more quality to them than MMR and I think because of the widescreen exposes the weakness in the graphics more. I did a quick experiment with MMR tonight and comparing the graphics on a larger screen vs the smaller screen on MMR definitely makes the poorer quality of the graphics show. Do they need to update MMR for the widescreen, I agree with you they don't but it doesn't look as good as the gfx in AFMR and MBR predominately because of the dot pitch in the widescreen.
I think that the artists just get better at it as they go along.
MBr is even more refined.
It looks fantastic compared to the original, but somehow better than the earlier titles they did.
Quoted from mamawaldee:
Question regarding the LEs, are these getting close to sold out in total, or just the first batch?
This game is my grail, and is the reason I joined Pinside (tried to buy one and lost out on it).
I have not really been a fan of remakes except for the price pressure they put on originals, even with the upgraded dots. I just prefer originals. However this particular LE has me thinking otherwise.
I had hoped more original MBs would have appeared on the market at reasonable prices, like it did with the first two remakes. But since the classic MBr is so appropriately priced, owners of originals might just decide to keep their games. So the remake might not increase the supply of originals, at least enough for me to have a shot at snagging one. That I could live with for awhile and just wait and see if one comes up within driving distance within a couple years.
Trouble is the LE of this game is so much improved over the original one that I prefer the remake, but ONLY the LE. So for me it's either an original, or the LE remake. Hence wanting to know what the deal is with the LE availability going forward. I have a.nother pin on preorder, and I don't want to let that one go.
When do you guys think would be last call to reserve an LE?
I'm not in a hurry to get my games, I just don't want to miss out.
They will be available for awhile, but not necessarily in the trim color you want.
So as in all things, if you want it, get it while you can.
Quoted from Davidus56:
Are the remake callouts identical to the original? Different voice actors I assume? Are all the original callouts included? Are there any new ones? I own the original, but it has some wear and tear. Just wondering if the LE remake is worth getting. MB is a classic that will never grow old. It is pretty easy after a few hundred plays, but I think the game is actually better than Medieval Madness.
Get the LE, its worth it.
Quoted from LTG:
When you look at what you all get extra, compared to the Classic and Special Edition :
https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/monster-bash ( Bottom of page )
Really sounds like the LE is the way to go.
LTG : )
Like I said, get the LE.
Its gorgeous and worthy of any collection.
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