$6K is noiyce

They're digging into Pro buyers for sure

Exciting times for pinball.

Stern, JJP, CGC, AP & some boutiques.

Dang!

So who is the BEST distributor to purchase an LE from?

All of them. ZERO chance they sell out 1250 LE's

PATIENCE. Come on, we all know they will be available for F's sake.

How easy/hard is the original/remake MB compared to MM, in overall playing? I've played MMr but not MB. I read that it's a long ball time pin. Thx

Agreed. Even though I bought an LE right away, there is every reason to think they will be available for some time. The games simply don't sell out that quickly, despite all the pinside hype and speculation.

If you can afford both games then you definitely need both. I guarantee that Munsters is going to kick ass and MB is an all time classic that is just beautiful to look at and fun as hell to play.

zero chance they sell out....AFMRLE took over a year....these will be available for a while....patience

In the past, dealers have charged extra for using a credit card. Is that still true?

I always write a check, would rather put 4% in their pocket than the dumb credit card company.

If you want one, you want one Joe! It's F ing tempting.

I'm waiting to see what Munsters looks like.

This pinball BS is MUCH worse than crack cocaine, and I've never done drugs

Renopinball is live now. We will be playing a LE and talking about it. Features, prices, etc. We will be showing the new promo in just a few minutes at 7pm PST. Tune in now on twitch.

Staying up past my bedtime to watch.

True, but I also like frequent flyer miles.

Props to Kurt @ Hemispheres!! In for an LE!! Can’t wait!!

I couldn’t agree more. I have a few hobbies, but this is definitely the most addicting.

Between the old, new and remakes, there’s just to many choices. The good thing about it, it’s never boring.
The bad thing about it, I’m running out of room.

I had afm. Mm and mb at the same time.... afm and mm were on stock settings and never did beat them .... took all eb away from mb and outlane post up all the way and it still was pretty easy. None the less still a fun pin for the short time i had it and worth owning at some point.

Do any of the previous Remakes have playfield dimpling problems where you can see the balls indenting the playfield?

How many AFMr LE's were made?

1250 LE's for Monster Bash doesn't seem too limited IMO.

Me too, but big pinball purchases is the one time I want to put the dough in the distributors pocket......

Yes, and MMr has chipping on some of the playfields. But in general CGC seems to be paying for harder wood and not the deep-crater super dimple wood Stern has resorted to using on the majority of their recent machines (with occasional exceptions like Aerosmith). Chipping aside, I'd say their PFs are at the mid-high end of good.

Uh, Oh....here we go....

LE is a loose term.....think of it like Jeep does.....Unlimited.....ie has all the cool shit.......not so much as in not very many people can have it, but rather it’s unlimited in awesomeness. I’d be fine with the LE being unlimited in numbers cause it’s fucking cool as shit

Someone here in Ontario Canada (Collingwood) is asking $14K CDN for his HUO MB, that is approximately $10673.53 USD at the moment. CRAZY!!!

You could literally buy any edition MBr, play it until it is out of warranty, sell it and move on if you want. For those who are worried about servicing remakes out of warranty.

That’s my plan too!

Let's face it, $8k for a remake LE of one of the greatest pinball machines of all time seems like a BARGAIN compared to Stern LE's and JJP right about now.

I have an AFMr LE and I gotta be honest it's a great pinball machine....well put together and beautiful to look at.

Does anyone know if Chicago Gaming improved the code for Monster Bash? I know that was a big criticism of the original game was that the code was not up to par and new code was never released for it.

If I didn’t have a really nice condition MB. I would purchase an LE in a heart beat.

Best NIB value on the market!

CGC has nailed it with quality and value for proven titles, that most couldn’t find or afford.

Code is the same Lyman greatness. So is AFM for that matter.

He's coded the greatest games in pinball history. Keith is #2. Everybody else is on a different planet.

This is like a game of telephone, that's simply not true, but people keep repeating things they heard and didn't understand until it builds into this myth.

The code on the game is great, the sounds are great, it's a wonderful package. It's also a 90s arcade title, so it's meant to be 'beatable', it doesn't have super deep and subtle rules that force you to make a lot of decisions in how to approach it. You collect the monsters to win the game, it's not Valinor and out of reach except after years of 45 minutes to an hour long games.

For some people that means it's too shallow to want to own. If you want a game that's a challenge, that kicks your ass, and you have to keep trying and trying to even see a chance at getting close to the end, this won't be it. If you want a game that's just a complete package and fun, and shooting it to enjoy it all sounds good, then it's a really wonderful title.

It's just the design, and you love it for what it is or you don't, but nothing is unfinished, it's not "missing new code" or anything of the sort.

Well said Aurich.

1000 AFMr LE’s were made. I have one, along with an MMr. I won’t be buying this game since two is enough for me but CGC makes awesome games. If I was getting a third game this would be an easy choice. Buy with confidence. Their machines are very high quality.

Machines are superb. The GI interaction is fantastic.

Look, this 'deep code' obsession is just too much. If you want that kind of game, buy that kind of game. I dig it, there's no judgment at all. There are people catering to you, support them. Let's all just remember it's not the only way to have fun with pinball. There's a reason the '90s games have been popular for so long, they're just plain fun. You can play them whenever, without a giant grind, and have a good time.

A lot of these new pins are cute and clever, and kinda soul-less rules machines. You don't get kick ass voice acting like Monster Bash has. The looping theme is one of my all time favorite pinball tracks. It's the full package, it looks great, it sounds great, it's fun to play, it's easy to show new players what to do and they can have a good time trying to put Frankenstein together.

The prices are ridiculous, and yet, a deal lol. Games are too expensive now. And yet $6k is solid in the market. $8k for a game is ridiculous, but for one that nice even without the cool extra stuff you'd pat $10-12k before. So ... it's good. I hate the new prices, hate hate hate it, ruining the hobby, but this is a good deal if you can accept where things are at, if that makes sense.

I would personally rather own MM and MB, or better yet, AFM and MB. AFM and MM are both great, but a little too similar in layout and shots.

You gotta find a new hobby. Pinball ain’t for you.

AFM is my favorite. I debated between MM and MB but the more I play MM the more I like it. Can’t go wrong with any of these 3. Greatest games ever!

I agree with everything u said ,but also the 90s pins were made for a arcade environment and meant to take your money which is why the code is the way it is. They were not meant for home use and playing over and over for free . Ive owned most b/w dmd pins and they are my favorite but they do get old pretty fast even in my 8-10 pin collection. Luckily i only get to reallly play my pins in the winter so that helps but i still change out pins a fair amount. Just glad more people get to enjoy these classics for a lot less than the original's once cost.

Ive had them all and afm is my favorite and still around after years..... all are fun and some the best pins ever.

Tommy is the man in Canada for sure
+1 for a LE here

I know this might not mean much to most people but the fact that CGC didn't RAISE prices on MB is encouraging big time.

All they did is raise the LE number from 1K to 1250. Pretty clever but who cares.

Neither number is truly limited!

Im a CE buyer on all models. For 2k extra I can bling the hell oot of them the way I want them to be. That and LE really are not limited. runs of over 2/3 hundred LEs just saturate the market.

You know this? This is literally nothing anyone has said ever about this timeless Lyman Sheats classic. Not up to par lol...GTFO

People don’t know the difference between “code” and “game design”. Code complaints started when games were literally incomplete or buggy. That’s a “code issue”. MB is complete and awesome and does exactly what it was designed to do.

But you can't bling the upgraded detailed animations....right?

I'm going to be patient, save up cash, and buy someone's SE. Let early people deal with the bugs, let someone lightly use an MBr, and then I'll buy it with cash in the $6K - $6900 range and save a couple hundred easily. Pay my car off first ($9800 to go), then the toys come home.

Prolly early 2020 and I'll start looking.

Can't help but notice all three remakes have been coded by Lyman.

That means #4 is No Fear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with comments made around the classic price point- great move by CGC.
Updated dots and more MB in the wild again for people to enjoy is great for pinball.

Ok Pinsiders ??? What’s a near mint original MB, color dmd, LEDs
Worth now ? Thinking of selling?
Pm me what you think ? Or just post

As a newcomer to the hobby, possibly still unjaded, I'm finding it both fascinating and amusing to read through the entire thread.

The people that were pumped about the game, then due to the delay, got really angry and stated they were completely bailing on it is baffling to me.

Well it’s like the Big Lawbowski

I gave up , wanted that more than any pin and I have quite a few. It’s like asking a girl out n getting shot down after awhile move on.women , pinball , buses , every 15 min there’s another
Coming !

You're new. Give it time. Now it comes across as nucking futs.

2 years from now, you'll see it's the norm.

Agree, 1250 LE is not limited at all. More like the maximum number they think they can sell.

Going against the pro price is a smart move and will probably hurt JJP the most.