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CGC Game #3 is Monster Bash! Official Pics are HERE!!!


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#1701 11 months ago
Quoted from DrJoe:

Disagree. All the remakes flip different from any original. The remakes flip late.

This is an old, tired subject.

After all of the testing by independent sources it has been proven to be untrue.

That said, you either like the way a NIB game feels or you do not.

I personally like the way the new games feel.

#1702 11 months ago
Quoted from pickleric:

I had an AFMr LE. Beautiful game, loved it very much, and really enjoyed playing it. I do agree the flippers did feel different than originals I have shot.
Fellow pinheads that came over to play it commented similar. No one said it was bad, just that the flippers do feel different on the remakes. I am really curious to why that may be? Not trying to offend anyone or stir the pot, I think the remakes are great.

There’s a big discussion about this; the Flippers are mechanically similar as far as I can tell, and they have literally been studied and scrutinised scientifically, electrically a but I think given the recent things we’ve seen with Houdini and TNA its at least possible the issue is less with the mechanics or the speed at which the coil is triggered, but perhaps a minor power distribution issue. I’m speculating of course, but I sure as heck feel like they are different.

That said, I have no idea if I could tell in a blind test, or if there’s any effect on gameplay at all. Sidebar: I REALLY like the flipper feel on Houdini,
Especially compared to the kind of wimpy ones on MB

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#1703 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

There’s a big discussion about this; the Flippers are mechanically similar as far as I can tell, and they have literally been studied and scrutinised scientifically, electrically a but I think given the recent things we’ve seen with Houdini and TNA its at least possible the issue is less with the mechanics or the speed at which the coil is triggered, but perhaps a minor power distribution issue. I’m speculating of course, but I sure as heck feel like they are different.

Games "break in" after a few thousand plays. Even with new mechs they retain a broken in feel.

It's really a matter of old vs new.

And I agree it's a feel, not something you can quantify.

Same had been said about refitting games with LED's.
They play differently, or at least "feel" different.

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#1704 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

This is an old, tired subject.
After all of the testing by independent sources it has been proven to be untrue.
That said, you either like the way a NIB game feels or you do not.
I personally like the way the new games feel.

Well I disagree as I said, as do loads of others that play these remakes side-by-side with the originals. JJP flippers also feel "late" but it's less noticeable to some people since there aren't the same titles from the '90s to directly compare. It's not an old-vs. new mechs issue either as the brand new Sterns flip a lot closer to the '90s games than the remakes or JJP titles.

#1705 11 months ago

Announcement coming really soon.

Hold your breath!

#1706 11 months ago

Its probably on the same clowns desk that is working on approving the Star Wars topper for Stern.

#1707 11 months ago
Quoted from DrJoe:

Well I disagree as I said, as do loads of others that play these remakes side-by-side with the originals. JJP flippers also feel "late" but it's less noticeable to some people since there aren't the same titles from the '90s to directly compare. It's not an old-vs. new mechs issue either as the brand new Sterns flip a lot closer to the '90s games than the remakes or JJP titles.

HUH! I have never felt JJp flippers feel late. Wow. Well add another viewpoint to the mix

#1708 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

HUH! I have never felt JJp flippers feel late. Wow. Well add another viewpoint to the mix

Agreed, my WOZ sits in a row of WPC-S/95 games and they feel pretty much identical to me. Spider-man and GOTG feel like Stern flippers to me, not necessarily bad but definitely different - some of that can be contributed to the lighter cabinet especially on GOTG, I think.

#1709 11 months ago
Quoted from DrJoe:

The remakes flip late.

Really?
This again.

#1710 11 months ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cgc-game-3-delayed/page/19#post-4496097

Quoted from GravitaR:

Still on track.

Looking like Sept is done. Thought for sure an announcment would be made by now with Pinball Expo just a couple weeks away. If they miss October something major is amiss.

#1711 11 months ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

Announcement coming really soon.
Hold your breath!

Can I exhale now ?

#1713 11 months ago

I exhaled - actually pretty close to puking watching that.

Actually it was a rhetorical question as I know the poster.

#1714 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

This is an old, tired subject.
After all of the testing by independent sources it has been proven to be untrue.
That said, you either like the way a NIB game feels or you do not.
I personally like the way the new games feel.

I played a few games on Original AFM and never liked it until I played AFM remake at Marvelous Marvins Mechanical Museum and I thought the remake played perfect. Now the originals I played were never in pristine condition. My friend has a MM remake and I love it and don't notice any delays.

Now MY WOZ Emerald flippers after a while I feel a delay which I wish I could figure out why it does that as I have no clue.

I'm looking to get at MB remake for what it's worth!

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#1715 11 months ago
Quoted from DrJoe:

Disagree. All the remakes flip different from any original. The remakes flip late.

nonsense. So much facts show that this is total BS. The remakes actually respond quicker.

#1716 11 months ago
Quoted from 3pinballs:

MY WOZ Emerald flippers after a while I feel a delay which I wish I could figure out why it does that as I have no clue.

JJP pins are leaf blade switches on flipper buttons and remakes like the originals are optos on the flipper buttons.

They are some subtle differences especially for upper flippers.

LTG : )

#1717 11 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

JJP pins are leaf blade switches on flipper buttons and remakes like the originals are optos on the flipper buttons.
They are some subtle differences especially for upper flippers.
LTG : )

Lloyd... are you absolutely positive that the remakes use the same light photons in the optos that the originals do? I mean, come on... speed of light off by a small percentage could definitely be a factor!!

#1718 11 months ago

Whenever it’s finally announced, speedy flippers... laggy flippers... missing a flipper, can we all at least promise to start 5-10 new threads about the announcement?

#1719 11 months ago
Quoted from DrJoe:

Disagree. All the remakes flip different from any original. The remakes flip late.

I think its mental as I've had a restored MM and a MMRLE sitting next to each other and aside from the subtle difference that each game has there is ZERO delay in the flippers...

#1720 11 months ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

I think its mental as I've had a restored MM and a MMRLE sitting next to each other and aside from the subtle difference that each game has there is ZERO delay in the flippers...

But, but, but that game I played 20 years ago in a pizza shop played so much differently! Trust me bro, I remember.

#1721 11 months ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Can I exhale now ?

LOL

Wait....Inhale one more time and hold your breath again!

#1722 11 months ago
Quoted from ectobar:

But, but, but that game I played 20 years ago in a pizza shop played so much differently! Trust me bro, I remember.

yea right....I'm pretty sure every game plays a little differently

#1723 11 months ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

LOL
Wait....Inhale one more time and hold your breath again!

Ok - a couple days ? a couple weeks ? a couple months ?

#1724 11 months ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Ok - a couple days ? a couple weeks ? a couple months ?

Release date is day before Munsters.

#1725 11 months ago

Ok listen everyone. I know a guy who knows a guy who knows yet even another guy that doesn’t knows shit about CGC and pinball.

Announcement imminent.

#1726 11 months ago

Been drinking.

#1727 11 months ago
Quoted from YZRider926:

Ok listen everyone. I know a guy who knows a guy who knows yet even another guy that doesn’t knows shit about CGC and pinball.
Announcement eminent.

Does the guy know a kid who's going with the girl who saw CGC pass out at 31 Flavors last night?

#1728 11 months ago
Quoted from ectobar:

Does the guy know a kid who's going with the girl who saw CGC pass out at 31 Flavors last night?

I guess it’s pretty serious.

#1729 11 months ago

I know it doesn't mean anything but it's nice to see vendors getting ready.
Nitro has has this on the website for at least a couple days

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#1730 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

There’s a big discussion about this; the Flippers are mechanically similar as far as I can tell, and they have literally been studied and scrutinised scientifically, electrically a but I think given the recent things we’ve seen with Houdini and TNA its at least possible the issue is less with the mechanics or the speed at which the coil is triggered, but perhaps a minor power distribution issue. I’m speculating of course, but I sure as heck feel like they are different.
That said, I have no idea if I could tell in a blind test, or if there’s any effect on gameplay at all. Sidebar: I REALLY like the flipper feel on Houdini,
Especially compared to the kind of wimpy ones on MB

The flippers on my TNA feel fantastic.

#1731 11 months ago

zzzzzz….huh...what?.....oh. zzzzzz

#1732 11 months ago
Quoted from pickleric:

The flippers on my TNA feel fantastic.

No issues with them dropping or hesitating during heavy activity moments?

#1733 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

No issues with them dropping or hesitating during heavy activity moments?

I haven’t noticed this at all on TNA.

#1734 11 months ago
Quoted from Arcade:

Really?
This again.

Don't know why people get so defensive when talking about flippers. It's like their children are being criticised!

FWIW I also think Stern SAM flippers and Spike 2 flippers have a slightly different feel.

I think there is also the issue that some people can feel these differences and others genuinely can't. It's no big deal.

Nothing to do with breaking games in etc. Anyway we can all agree to disagree

#1735 11 months ago

Tick Tock Tick Tock...

#1736 11 months ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

LOL
Wait....Inhale one more time and hold your breath again!

Now I'm Breathless

#1737 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

No issues with them dropping or hesitating during heavy activity moments?

nope. not a once.

#1738 11 months ago
Quoted from NeilMcRae:

nope. not a once.

Yeah, we never have that problem, either, and I've played Houdini myself extensively at the location.

#1739 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

HUH! I have never felt JJp flippers feel late. Wow. Well add another viewpoint to the mix

At Allentown this year I thought the JJP dialed in flippers felt “ the most NIB Bally/ williams” of any modern machine I’ve played.
I also have a MB I got NIB as a gift from my sister in law. She got one too. It was partially due to the fact that her BSD , CFTBL and then MB were set up in the kitchen of my townhome for many years.
I normally only played hers...shhh don’t tell ! but mine only has between 2000-3000 plays now. I’m curious to see how the new machines compare flipper feel wise

#1740 11 months ago
Quoted from ultimategameroom:

At Allentown this year I thought the JJP dialed in flippers felt “ the most NIB Bally/ williams” of any modern machine I’ve played.
I also have a MB I got NIB as a gift from my sister in law. She got one too. It was partially due to the fact that her BSD , CFTBL and then MB were set up in the kitchen of my townhome for many years.
I normally only played hers...shhh don’t tell ! but mine only has between 2000-3000 plays now. I’m curious to see how the new machines compare flipper feel wise

1,000,000% agree.

#1741 11 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

JJP pins are leaf blade switches on flipper buttons and remakes like the originals are optos on the flipper buttons.
They are some subtle differences especially for upper flippers.
LTG : )

There will be subtle differences between two of the exact game. The good news is that you and I are good enough pinball players we simply adjust our play.

#1743 11 months ago

I could not wait any longer,

Had to go and buy this

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#1744 11 months ago
Quoted from RA77:

I could not wait any longer,

Had to go and buy this

Just think of all the mods you can make!

#1745 11 months ago
Quoted from Only_Pinball:

Just think of all the mods you can make!

Whoa! I just got a 3D printer, I wonder what we can make?! BWAHAHAHA

#1746 11 months ago

News flash, its a MB repackaged like AFM and MM!

Look at those and you know what you are going to get.

I don't see what the drama is all about.

1,000 "LE's" is NOT limited in any way shape or form for ANY pinball machine. PERIOD.

That said, buy what you like, nothing else matters.

If you don't buy the cheap plastic mods to go on this pin or any other you might actually save some $$$

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#1747 11 months ago
Quoted from iceman44:

News flash, its a MB repackaged like AFM and MM!
Look at those and you know what you are going to get.

You may very well be right, but why in the world would the reveal be taking so long from licensing approval if they are essentially building the same thing that was approved/built 20 years ago?

#1748 11 months ago

Because you can't do something now that you could 20 years ago
Different legal wording and 3rd party logo I guess

#1749 11 months ago
Quoted from iceman44:

1. News flash, its a MB repackaged like AFM and MM! Look at those and you know what you are going to get.
I don't see what the drama is all about.
2. 1,000 "LE's" is NOT limited in any way shape or form for ANY pinball machine. PERIOD.
3. That said, buy what you like, nothing else matters.
4. If you don't buy the cheap plastic mods to go on this pin or any other you might actually save some $$$

1. Its the same light show as afm? With the bi coloured led saucers and everything? Cool, now I can picture it.
2. ANYTHING with a scheduled cut off of production is limited. 1000 or 1 million. Period.
3. Yup
4. Elaborate please? Save money over what?

#1750 11 months ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

1. Its the same light show as afm? With the bi coloured led saucers and everything? Cool, now I can picture it.
2. ANYTHING with a scheduled cut off of production is limited. 1000 or 1 million. Period.
3. Yup
4. Elaborate please? Save money over what?

Call it what you want if it makes you feel better but there is ZERO added value to an LE just because it’s “limited” to 1000 and I have an AFMLE. Literally speaking, it’s “limited”, who cares

We blow so much $$$ on plastic junk mods and then complain about the cost of a standard versus an LE. It’s comical

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