I don't care what the hell they make, I just need something to fill the emptiness.

Houdini's are shipping now!
Then buy remake later in year, but by then you wont want to sell Houdini.

That there explains the entire pinball business model of today.

GIr

LOL!!! True

Kids, wife, booze, money, cars, travel, weed, hot yoga, that pilgrimage to India... nothing seems to work. But I am pretty sure that a shiny new Monster Bash will do the trick.

So was there a legit announcement - I am already figuring out which Kidney to sell.

Nothing yet. Still waiting!

Who's Lloyds new source?

I believe CGC since he does tech support for them. He mentioned that he accidentally saw what was in the works, but I’m sure wants to keep his gig so he hasn’t revealed anything.

Care Bears will be announced so soon.
These are exciting times !

seems to be some discrepancy between their definition of “soon” and mine.

Getting a license is hard... (Have a look at the 3D translite thread so you'll notice that there is a larger phenomenon going on with difficulties in acquiring licenses)

The communication from CGC has been amazing until now. What the hell do I know, but something doesn't feel right.

I smell a Rat:

Check back in October.

....of 2026

Well if you've been to the toy isle lately you might notice a lot of tmnt and wwe figures are monster themed.

I see a MB pinball in the future.
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And the games have been unlicensed themes until now. Maybe the next one is licensed. Would that put you at ease or make you more nervous?
.................David Marston

This sucks sold off some pins back in March in anticipation for this new game ! I thought by now I would played this new game and been bored with it already!

When one of the top guys in the company leaves right when the big announcement for #3 was supposed to happen tells me something is up. I dont know if that has anything to do with the delay. I’m definitely looking forward to game 3, hope to find out soon.

Very much agree with this.
They were so up front and great with communication in the past.
Now it is like trying to get info on a secret government satellite program.
Then Doug who is one of the best people in pinball leaves for Stern.
My mind is not at ease with CGC anymore.

Seems like their silence was self inflicted by Pinside. One CGC member updated often until being harassed then the same happened to Lloyd in this same thread. Guess now we just have to imagine and speculate... We want answers but some tend to shoot the messenger.

I have wondered the same think, boy that would be crap and could really upset the industry if they pulled licensing for cab decals and all sorts of things

supply and demand someone will fill the void certainly on the decals

Lloyd said we would hear something soon on here but that was weeks ago; not sure what the delay is but has been over three months so far; so hope it is worth all this wait time

It all comes down to one thing money and this delay doesn't bode well for CGC. Add to that Doug is either leaving or had left CGC and there's something funky going on at CGC. Maybe investors have bailed on them and gone elsewhere to a company like Deeproot? We might never see another thing from this company!

May well be nothing to do with it, but it isn't THAT unlikely that WMS' parent would consider re-entry to the market, given today's pricing, and at least in Stern's case, a hugely cost cut and presumably very high margin product. Their profit margins have to be a far cry from what they got out of in 1999.

Wouldn't even surprise me if they bought out CGC / Churchill.

Their reason for denying Farsight a license extension (at any cost) has to be to do with wanting the whole pie, and / or controlling their IP much more tightly - which would make sense if they intend to either take control of or make more cash out of the physical stuff.

Something is brewing, or rotten in Denmark for sure.
Licensing might be an issue.
The virtural tables are taking a hit at the end of the month and the party is over for PPM. Not even able to sell them anymore. You have till June 30th to buy and download all 77 of there tables.
The 3D translite guys in germany are at a stand still with no communication and permission to finish the 3 they have ready to go. PPS is running out of these now not restocking. Just checked, only MM is no longer for sale, but stock is low.
There has also been a stand still and almost no new product from PPS.
I see a bigger problem with no proof, however the stars are lining up and the future of parts is starting to look grim again.

If the license holder is making a move hopefully it’s all just transitional and availability will open back up. Unless of course they have decided that they hate money.

The Virtual thing is a bit confusing from my perspective. To me thats an income stream but more than that it is advertising for your game/brand. Stern recognized that and so now you can play some titles even while still available to purchase. Maybe they think they can create their own virtual pinball platform?

I’ll say that I was not around for the original parts dry spell, but say they are taking back the licenses - so why would WMS / Scientific not allow parts to be produced any longer?

Going back into business for themselves?

I respectfully disagree. The future of parts has never been better with fabrication tools at the fingertips of so many. If licensing drys up people will just fix their own issues in some way or another.

Could be a price to play poker type of thing. Perhaps they want too much for licenses now.

Nah, SG isn’t going to get into Pinball manufacturing.

Agreed, i should clarify.
Anything metal, mechanical and playfield and cabinet parts are healthy, and not going anywhere.
Plastic sets, cabinet decals, translites and anything with licensed images could be in danger.

Yep, good point and agreed. Some things like plastic sets will go under ground probably.

I thought the license denial was because they had put it on an additional platform they didn't have a license for without permission, so the whole license was pulled.

That was always just speculation. Nobody has confirmed the real reason for any of this.

I can see this getting ugly real quick.

All we have is speculation. So, the universe is our playground at this point.

Maybe they’re setting up a space-station manufacturing facilitie along with the new space force?

I'm sure Chicago Gaming Company (edit) and Planetary Pinball are doing just fine.

They cranked out an amazing remake of AFM. Sold many many MMRs.
The AFMRLE was simply off the hook. Next release has to compete with that.

They are simply being cautious there really is little room for error.
Not sure how many of us know what's going on with all the pinball properties licensing right now.
People trying to protect themselves, assure quality and future of pinball. These remakes are a big deal.

Except Chicago Coin went out of business in the 70s, but yeah, beside that, just fine.

Edit - To many things going on today.

Obviously I have nothing going on today.

Some already have....

Game 3 will be awsum and worth the wait !

Awsum you say?

maybe it was $ and with the app store cuts the cost was to high? Wanted an emulator without the hooks that they put in? Some fall out from the nucore issues made some legal team think we can't renew the deal as is?

Pinsiders n pinball collectors ?
Whoever holds the rights thats worth a fortune could just sell out and sit in a beach ?

Then remakes etc would be a dream. Quit complaining