Thought it was time to start a new dedicated thread for Version 3 (v3) of the Snackbar Mod due to quite a few people requesting a Snackbar Mod and since I have wanted to try something out (new feature). I do get bored so tend to do a run of about 100 and then stop for a breather and if enough requests occur I then develop another version to mix it up a little but also improve on the previous design - always aiming for a cleaner look, easier to install and more details but still look the part. But I am also open to constructive ideas and if cool, practical and within cost restrictions like add features suggested by Pinsiders.

Version 3 - Snackmod v3
- to be released soon
- limited to 40 units due to deadline commitment by those keen.

Desired features of v3:
- no bolts in the top through the decal
- one bolt quick release system at the back of the front face once the base plate is installed
- no acrylic light blades - to be replaced with a molded resin 12mm / 1/2" high front plate
- added decal to the molded front plate to enhance the neon and Snackbar look

Open for thoughts :
- on the top surface decal / dome flasher insert - yes/no / Starlight Design / or stars - possibly with some components that can be lit up

Current model design:
start of the design with open front and no bolts in the top and one at the back of the front face

top piece made transparent to show the locking features

The price:
- to be confirmed once the design is finalised and prototype made
- I only ask for payment when your mod is ready to post and getting on the wait list only secures you a spot for the mod in the order I get your enquiry.

Ordering:
All I ask is if you are keen, please send me a pm with the subject line being "Snackbar Mod v3" and issue me your
- full name
- email address
If you don't send me a pm I will not put you on the wait list, as posting in the thread that you are keen is cool and appreciated but it won't secure you a position on the wait list. Currently there are about 15 people on the wait list and I tend to build them in batches of about 10 every 4-6 weeks once the design is final and proven.

Updates:
- when I have an update I will post and encourage others to give your thoughts, ideas etc

History of this mod is:

Version 2 - Snackbar Mod v2
- released January 2016
- finished October 2017
- modeled off features of the building on the playfield with it's unique features but improved the number of bolts in the top from 5 to 2 and switched to laser cut acrylic light blades for improved brightness and lit by linking to the GI powering a led strip.
- downsides were some people felt that it lost a little of the classic rounded neon look, slightly improved assembly
thread can be found here

Version 1 - Snackbar Mod (v1)
- released September 2014
- finished September 2015
- modeled off features of the building on the playfield with it's unique features being it used elwire along with a inverter for a cool neon effect to the Snackbar mod.
- downsides were it was a little timing consuming to install and pulled 12vdc from a already heavily modded game.
thread can be found here

Update 28-12-18
It has taken longer than I had hoped but here is the manual for the released v3.0 Snackbar mod for those on the list which is limited to 40 people along with 3 people that wanted the prototypes. Prototypes are completed and parts are almost in for the production mods to roll out in early 2019. My apologies for the delays and your patience.

Update 23-1-19
V2.0 manual added (removed v1.0 manual)
CFTBL Snackbar Mod v3.0 - Manual rev2.pdf

a few people have asked what my experience is and I have reassured them that I design for fun and a mechanical engineer by trade and yes I earn a small commission off my designs made by Shapeways

I put alot of my designs up at Shapeways as these are made in the US and postage is affordable, some being mods, some being reproduction parts for those hard to get parts, and some are tools amongst other random things. I still have to update some designs with the appropriate search words.

all my designs - full catalogue
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinks&sort=newest

all CFTBL specific parts and mods
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinkscftbl&sort=newest

all pinball mods
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinksmod&sort=newest

all pinball reproduction parts
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all pinball tools
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinkstools&sort=newest

this one is now hooked up to the GI socket under the mod so a simple to wire and lightup and not a power drain unlike v1.

thanks for the kind words guys, it's very much appreciated.

a few people have asked about postage whcih I can give a rough answer. I am in Australia but have sent most of the mods in the past to the US followed by Canada and Europe. Every parcel gets tracking to your door and basically I just charge for the box and postage and don't charge a packing fee. I don't want to quote postage costs just yet as Aus Post may raise prices but in the past there has been change from $30AUD to USA and Canada and change from $35AUD to Europe.

hope that helps

that is my main goal with this version and what you are suggesting is what I had in mind.... lets see if I can get that look

thanks again guys and like in the past anyone that has purchased the snackbar mod directly from me in the past will get a discount as a thanks for your support:
- those that purchased v1 or v2 will get a 5% discount on v3
- those that purchased v1 and then v2 will get 10% discount on v3

if you have purchased in the past please remind me and I will cross check with my records and when the price is known & released you will get a discount as a thanks.

cheers

Jady

this is my current concept that now the front will be one whole light lens with detailed embossed features and a black background as typically black is the background for neon - the clear light is the the 1st neon tube in which there will be 2 of these with a second up higher equally at the top
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this will be the neon look profile that will extend out past the black front
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the fitting of this mod is like the previous version, mount the plate but it will have 3 different posts that you drop on and slide 7.5mm to lock into place and then one bolt to fasten the lens and shroud also locks the mod into place so to service etc - loosen one screw and it will slide and lift off - easy.
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concerns - the front panel may distort due to the slender cut outs.

thoughts -

here is the next stage with the front now with 2 neon tubes, will start on the next feature for the top and see what you guys think

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thanks guys, still aiming to put an addition on the roof that will be an underlit lit, 3d interactive "Snackbar" logo like the playfield that will be lit using the red dome feature lit so interactive to flash and come on when the snackbar is open.

That is so cool Art,

I would loved that era and scene, maybe one day we can get to that place at Disney,

Yes they is still one drive in locally which we visit a few times a year but pretty bad snackbar, definitely no inspiration at the local one. They have a funny radio add that promotes that “if you don’t like the movie you can slash the seats”

slight detour but interesting all the same

I was curious of drive-in cinemas in Europe and could only find this which in Aus we call open air cinema's
https://travelaway.me/outdoor-cinemas-europe/

and found this one in Denmark, so they must of had them though would only be in the warmer months I imagine
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMHBGZ_LARGEST_Drive_In_Movie_Theatre_in_Europe_Lynge_Denmark

here is a bit of Australia's history
https://maas.museum/inside-the-collection/2016/02/09/remembering-australias-drive-ins/

and we only have 16 left in Aus - Heddon Greta is our local and years ago we had another 2 with one being within 5 kms away
http://www.driveinmovie.com/Australia

US has 348 Drive-ins left
https://qz.com/235155/there-are-barely-any-drive-in-movie-theaters-left-unless-you-live-in-south-dakota/

this is still in the concept stage but I have tried to replicate the Snack Bar name like on the playfield and turn it into a 3d part. Because I don't want to create any floating pieces I have changed the "a" and the "B"

this is merely the start of a logo that will be housed and backlit from the back or underneath to glow and this will be connected to the light that flashes under the red dome on certain features and when the Snackbar is open.

I suppose before I go too far along am wondering what people are thinking of the slight change on a few of the letters and direction with this part???

the design housing will be more curved and stylized to flow with the letters and then located on the snackbar top towards the front point so scene

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thanks j_m_ , nice mockup

I had considered something like the countersunk bolt but you need the thickness as the plate at that end is only 2mm thick plastic which is not ideal for countersunk's if in the front face

I like the idea of the tab at the back, but the downside of the locking bolt at the back is that if the customer wants to service under the mod (change a globe etc) they have to remove the light board in the centre and then have limited hand room for hand and allen key. V1 had 5 bolts on top, v2 had 2 on top and v3 will have none on top but one on the front face which will be black and blended and makes for easy install and serviceability.

The bolt actually has a second feature which is to lock the top in place once it slides into position but could be doable from the back but would need to be longer and more unscrewing / screwing in a limited space.

That is a fair point but there are brackets near the ramp as well on the right so turning a allen key might be a issue. Where the bolt is now is a dead area that can't be back lit due to hidden features so not to bad and black on black will keep it blended in. I will though consider where the sign gets fastened to the top front could be the locking bolt at the back of the sign giving it good access and not seen - so a win win.

Will continue on the design and look at options, but appreciate the ideas.

But with you other idea of the back locking tab gave me the idea to design midway tabs for the black face midway to strengthen up the thin sections and secure better, so thanks.

didn't feel like working on the logo - still in the think tank but really wanted to do a neon version and a retro classic light globe version:
- neon with simulated pink lighting
- globe with simulated yellow lighting

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yes probably will make both available but be sold as neon and people can change it by purchasing the globed version from shapeways when ever it suits them

never had to wrap a logo so took a little experimenting but worked out a concept, so need a vote from people:

1. keep the logo on top like on the playfield and still need to cut down around text and then wrap a black housing around and back light

OR

2. have the Snackbar unlike the playfield on the same face as the neon and maybe a back lit "OPEN" on the top face with a logo so the top is flat.

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tough crowd ... lol

the image is merely a concept of showing "Snack Bar" in the playfield font and it curved and the rough location similar to the playfield. The colours are not true as not finished yet as will have a black casing and back lit like the neon will be.

laseriffic topper are edge lit as the acrylic is engrave and the engraving lits up, the snackbar piece will molded acrylic so will be cloudy but backlit.

if people are not really into it I can just park the project until a better solution comes up.

cheers, appreciate the feedback

as mentioned in a few posts there will be a black surround as this is just the initial concept so you will only see the letters and then black around it but to the size of the letters not a ugly box like the current concept.

my thoughts as well as wanted to be able to read it from players perspective

thanks mate and for others I do understand that not everyone has the vision so need to do the full model to get a better idea - just trying to save some time and pick a direction earlier....

thanks everyone, much appreciate the feedback

Hi Xerxes,

in v3 there will be artwork on the top but different to mkw it a little unqiue and I won't go there until the sign is finished. The Red down in v1 and v2 is linked to the original plastic but not necessarily related to the artwork. v3 is still yet to get the "SnackBar" logo that will on top to capture the artwork more so I would like to think this version will be more inline with the artwork and theme.

v2 top is available on Shapeways and isn't cheap but they were never cheap even for me which pushed the price up, but is there as a replacement option for people if theirs is damaged or they would like to do a custom paint job....

v1 and v2 tops were actually made by iMaterialise (European option to Shapeways) as they could do a better price on 10 where Shapeways wouldn't budge. But iMaterialise are in Belgium so put the v2 top on Shapeways as by the time postage is added from Europe the price is equivalent and Shapeways postage is much better than iMaterialise.

I hope that helps and will try to get that classic retro look

I know what you mean but 3d resin printed plastic is a semi cloudy look so will have to back light it, and use the black housing to enhance the letters. Laser etching would be cool but I want the sign curved so gets into an area that isn't ideal

yeah I could and have considered but for the first (proto) one I have my heart now set of back lighting like the neon tubes to keep it consistent - should have a mock-up soon to show

thanks for the input and the possible contact ....

still early stages but the general concept

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for you or anyone else simply send me a pm with full name and email address,

at the moment will only be a limited run of 50 this year as got too much on at work, family and other projects.

no I have removed the dome as I want the Snackbar logo to be the main focus,

and with the traditional plastic it was roughly 3mm thick so the dome was visible. With v2 and this now v3 are both 23mm high and so push the dome higher and from the players perspective was not really visible during play but you saw the flashing. In addition I had to wear a 15-20% loss on printing issues of hole alignment so prefer not to have decals with holes in them.

The SS plate and top are still going to have a decal so you are not seeing a mass of aqua blue but going to do a slightly different design now on both, in the final model I will add a one colour patch to simulate a decal so you don't see all blue to help visualise.

I know you are not a big fan of the screw but v1 had 5 screws, v2 had 2 visible screws and v3 will have 1. The proto will be in the front as I don't think it is a issue as have a good feeling of what the end look will be.

The back alternative you suggested will mean a person has to remove the light panel each time which is what I am trying to avoid.

The front alternative you suggested will mean they have to dick around with dodging the ramp and switch which I am trying to avoid.

The top alternative might be a option but then it means more parts come loose in the undoing.

So at the moment the proto will have one black bolt in the front, sorry if this disappoints but I want this mod to be super quick and easy to remove for servicing or swapping out colour leds while still looking streamlined.

as for the dome flasher, there is no reason that that light is extended so Snackbar flashes when open but I also have something else up my sleeve if it works

yes there will be a decal again over the Snackbar hole for the stainless steel plate, see the photo has a FILM decal and will do something similar but mix it up with a different background colour instead of the aqua blue like I did on v1 and v2

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Sorry mate, don't mean to tease.... this design is the one I always wanted to do...

yes, this was under consideration and though the design is not finalised I am confident if it got up there it will freely roll off.

bigger problems is Shapeways decided to introduce a few materials but axed quite a few materials - some of which I was banking on with the sign... wait and see

got a few things going on so won't be around as much for a little while

ok, here is what will most probably be proto-type 1 and see how everything fits coupled with paint lighting etc

The decals obviously are just a flat one colour image that will become an art decal for the 2 spots, yet to be designed.

Please let me know your thoughts before I order a proto-type set.

close image of the sign banner
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above view to show that the ball should not get caught
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animation gif - hopefully works

I tried to create a gif that simulates the game off and then on, with then the neon tubes turned on and then the Snackbar sign flashing when the snackbar is open. It will be easy to change this at your end for the snackbar to always be lit like the neon. Once I have a version in my hands I will "try" to do a slight modification to add a lit feature to the top decal for when the snackbar is open as an alternative to the snackbar sign.

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thanks for the feedback guys

the stainless steel plate and snackbar top will have designs on those mock up decals and aim to have an "open" sign or something up on it and won't be all black and all yellow blob decals

what I have done in the past is ordered a proto and then test fitted, de-bugged any design issues, take photos and offered up to the early guys at a discounted price and then make any tweaks for the final version

the first on the list can decide if they want the proto or a production version, but generally the proto's have been equivalent to the final version in design and finish - have had a good success rate so far. The base plate will be a v2 as have a couple left but will be doing a v3 which is only a little different underneath only because I am particular and want everything matching for the under design, though all the mount & post holes will be the same but with totally different posts this time round.

I appreciate the keenness and support

if you are keen send me your full name and email address to lock in a position - list is lmost full

I aim to have a comet led strip backlighting so should be bright enough to cast some nostalgic effect. As for the dome that was on the original plastic as well as v1 & v2 and I really personal want the "Snackbar" sign to be the unique feature and unlike the original plastic the font will be like the playfield snackbar sign so a better tie in. thanks for the input, much appreciated.

thanks mate

sorry guys, I don't mean to tease with the upgrades, but I get bored so want the next design to be better than the last and the sign was one of me wants from the beginning but just never got there

just an update on the interest list
- it is at the 50 which is my max production size for 2018. I am still taking names if people are interested as they can take the place of people that drop out as sure people will bail when the time comes or once I work out the final price. Just wanted people to be aware.

- I will be away for a couple of days as taking my wife and kids away for a few days to Sydney for Vivid and then when back tweak the designs for the proto-type test

Thanks mate, what a day, travelled 150km and the thrust bearing on the clutch decided to cease and left us stranded...... Took 5hrs to get a rental so we could enjoy the Vivid lights for my wife’s birthday ..........

Lights were good and everyone is stuffed - not quite the trip away we planned, hate cars $2k repair bill ...... anyway we are alive, healthy and look forward to playing pinball.

Chat soon

proto designs are ready to order which I will do tomorrow and depending on the lighting installed will determine the final look. All lighting will be Comet gear and a fixed colour (that looks the best) and then if you want something a little different you can customise straight from Comet.

Neon Tube Version
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Bulb Version
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also the plan is for the decal on top will be similar to the v2 with a large arrow sign but with "OPEN" on the vertical section along with a 3 led stripe matrix (all going well) which will fasten to the back of the snackbar sign and shine on to the "OPEN" and flash. The Snackbar Sign has the slot in the back so wiring can pass through.

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thanks guys,

yeah the bulb version is really going to be an accessory available to order from Shapeways for those that want to mix it up

It is only a mockup and I based the mockup on the v2 which was predominantly sent out with ice blue led strips as they looked cool and had that neon look. I personally had purple and looks cool and on the v1 I had pink el wire which looked cool but wasn't available in the led strips for the v2. Lighting is a funny thing and a 3d model is never going to capture the real finished look of a finished mod.

I won't mockup any other versions for now and the tube design is final (for the moment) and will be a translucent clear which can be backlit with any colour (hopefully ) and will wait for the proto's to be made, painted and then trial with different colour led strips. From there I will make a decision on the final colour led strips and people can always customise down the track.

thanks

if keen send me your full name and email address

cheers

Jady

mod update (16-6-18) - proto-types just ordered and should get to me in the next 4 weeks and then I will check for fit on the bench and in the game and if all good, next stop painting

thanks for your patience...

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no worries ClassicHornet

Update
- proto parts are almost here, so soon can report back on fit and look pre-paint
- list has closed for the moment as over the 50 cap

was at the zoo yesterday with the family and got back late and found a package at the door and just couldn't wait and lit up the sign - the concept works and lighting seems intense but that is more the camera but is looking the part.

the negative is I am not happy with the front panel (tubes and black surround - is a little flimsy and distorted) so will be redesigning, though will still paint up and take some photos so people can see progress of v3.0 and then move to v3.1

with lights on
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with lights off
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the logo is a clear translucent resin so the led colour determines the final look allowing you to mix it up.

I don't believe it will as the snack bar is 20mm in height and the sign curved and if a ball ended up there believe it would roll on to the right ramp near the entrance.

sadly no, a bit flat out at work and lazy when I get home and lots of computer problems - seems the hard drive is failing so everything is backed up and slowed my designing down alot....

the resin front is oversized and I need to sand and adjust to finish the fit test - hopefully this weekend

update..........

between sickness and work sending me to studies I have been a little time poor, but finally got the v3.1 finished and installed.

- the slide design works really well and to the point where I almost don't need a locking screw on the front, BUT "stupid me" didn't consider the ramp and a nut that holds the plate down that fouls with the Snackbar top in the slide locking motion. So pulled out the dremel to hack the mod - but at least it was in areas that can't be seen.

- I put a purple led strip in the mod to light up the neon strips and an orange led strip for the snackbar sign. I won't do decals until the design is final but the photos give you an idea of what it looks like. In the photo the lighting does look a little intense for the Snackbar sign and a not fully glowing all of the strips - which is a bit the little the nature of the mod and but also where I fastened the strip which I can improve on a little.

- I hooked up the neon and sign to the GI and left the globe for the snackbar open feature which just adds a slight additional pulse glow through the strips - but people can connect the sign or the strips to the flash feature if they want to mix it up.

- my idea of having a feature pass through to the top did not work as hoped so will can that, so no light up feature for the top of the mod.

- the black cover over the front lens is on there but way to flimsy so already have an alternative idea for the front.

- from the players perspective you can't see "Sna", and partially see "ck" and clearly see the "Bar"

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Where to from here:
v3.1 - only one of which is now canned to make way for the v3.2 due to issues.

v3.2 - do a remodel of v3.1 to improve on the slide on feature and tweak the sign cabling port through the top and remove the black front cover and replace with a thicker acrylic lens and then paint and then sand off the paint on the tubes only to get a more projected neon tube look.

v 3.3 - and something I want to entertain is still have the same modified slide on changes but then the "Snack Bar" sign actually mounted within the top from inside and glow up so "Snack Bar" can be better seen and reduces the overall parts and cost and allows the top to glow / light up instead of a dome.

will work on models for v3.2 & v3.3 to show people along with some close cost estimates to determine if this mod proceeds

and 2 points of interest for people
- you can hardly see the one screw on the front face that fasten the top to plate
- and if a ball were to get to the top of the mod it would roll off on to the ramp

bummed I missed a few simple things but anyway, lessons learnt

thanks for everyone's patience

I am back and sorry for the sudden dis-appearance - too much going on and needed to force a break on myself in a few areas, on deactivation I thought it was 30 days but ended up being 60 days which finished this morning lol.

I am flying out tomorrow for a little over a week to the Gold Coast to do theme parks, swim etc with the family, play some pinnies and hopefully catchup with Dr John and back with a few days still off.

The latest version of the mod (v3.4) should be waiting for me when I am back which I will paint, display and update you guys - which I am hoping this version is the final. I have been playing CFTBL with the snackbar mod with signage that was in the photos and must say it gives a cool era classic lighting effect to the centre of the playfield.

Also I have a sample arriving in the same shipment for the Snackbar Signage for Version 2 owners so they can swap out the red dome and use the hole as a clamp feature and the sign sits on top the same place as the Version 3 so you guys don't have to sell you mod and just purchase for a small fee the V2.5 Snackbar Signage only

Concept v3.4

- no longer has black face panel as the locking mechanism kept failing after a while playing so went to a design similar to Snackbar Mod v2 but with now many enhancements
- has the one screw release on the front for easy release
- has 2 screws on the underside to lock in the light blades
- proto light blades are 3d printed with curved edges for that neon look
- better re-routed tracks for power from the snackbar sign
- an internal track from inside of the mod to the back so if people want to add another light to light the top decal say if the snackbar opens can flash on the "open" decal.
- don't worry about the angular looking holes that was just in the modelling down scaling for viewing.

hope you like this as if all good in fit this will be final.

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Concept v2.5

this is for the people that have the Snackbar Mod v2

- this allows the guys with the v2's to get that upgraded look without selling there mod and buying the v3
- remove the mod and then remove red dome via removing the hot glue dots and clipping the dome
- tap a thread into the new clamp plate and then drop on to the mini locator posts and add 2 dots of hot glue
- install the Snackbar insert into the sign housing
- install a Comet Pinball 6 led strip behind the Snackbar insert with the wiring coming out of the back (closest to the clamp) and install into the wiring track of housing
- lower the housing with led, wiring and insert to the hole where the dome was and install the bolt and loosely install
- install the mod to the plate and connect the wiring to which ever feature - snackbar open or GI, and firm up and then rotate the signage to the right position and nip up

The new Signage hides the current Snackbar sign on the decal

If all good this will be released as an affordable option for the v2 people and can purchase the parts direct from Shapeways and Comet Pinball - but I will do a help manual to guide you.

Screen shots so the the concept with the comparison of the original and upgraded and the last image shows the new parts involved in the design.

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yes the "Snack Bar" logo will light up on v2.5 just like v3 though up to you if you connect the wiring to that feature or GI

thanks mate

I liked the black face as well, though was delicate and proved to be unreliable and popped out within 10-20 games

as for the v2.5 - I always wanted the logo but back then hadn't come up with the idea and about 12 guys are in on for the v3 that already have v2 so wanted to give them an option as becomes alot to sell and buy again probably with a small loss, though up to them to go down this path but there if they want.

as soon as my proto gets to me and I am happy with it, I will release photos and make it available

do you have a v2 Snackbar?

sorry about the delay Yelobird and any others out there waiting, life gets in the way at times

so anyone no longer needing this mod let me know with a PM so I can trim the list down which won't affect a run being done as most of the hard work has been done now.

what was your alternate route Yelobird ?

parts have arrived and very happy with:
- v2.5 for the guys with v2.0 Snackbars - see photos below
- v3.4 fits nicely and currently painting - hopefully full test fit is good and finalise price next week and then finalise decals.
- v3 of my pin-light - which I use to test globes (colour and working) before going into a game and great for testing my mods prior to packing and sending.

v2.5 add on for the v2.0 guys
- remove the dome
- tap and hot glue the new lock down plate
- being tested with my new pin-torch v3 with light purple leds in both the light blades and signage - notice how the sign can pivot out of the way and once set in your game nip up to lock into the place you want which covers the graphic of the Snackbar Signage.
- installed in the game
Note: I will open up the parts to order / links in the next 12hrs and will note here and will make up a basic "how to upgrade manual" in the next few days. This will be a kit to purchase direct from Shapeways and assembles easily, along with some led parts from Comet Pinball.

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v3.0 pin-torch
- is powered by a 9 vdc battery and power reducer to 6vdc, switch and a place to store a spare bulb in the end when traveling to protect or simply store a backup and has a wider base to allow for standing up.. Wife and daughter stole v1 and v2 and use as there book lights lol....
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For those guys contemplating the v3.0 that have a v2.0

Here is a link for the back lit 3D Snack Bar signage (v2.5 upgrade) from Shapeways, which I will have a basic manual of how to perform the upgrade and what parts to get from Comet Pinball. This fits all Snackbar v2.0's and replaces the red dome for that cool neon look signage and gives the playfield a nice glow and up to you what colour leds you install for the look that you are after.

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinkssnackbarv2.5&sort=newest

Here is the manual of how to assemble your Snackbar Signage for the Snackbar Mod v1.0 and v2.0 as well as links for parts.

CFTBL Snack Bar Mod Signage Upgrade for v1 & v2 mods - rev1.pdf

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For those Snackbar v1.0 and V2.0 owners that live in Australia I am doing a purchase of parts from Shapeways and have enough lighting parts to make 4 signage ONLY kits.

The benefit of this is you do not have to pay for postage from from Shapeways or Comet Pinball as I will cover this but you will have to cover postage from me to you (within Australia only) - which is a saving of about $37.50 and I assembly it for you.

I have enough lighting parts for 4 complete kits as per manual and the led strip colour option is: white, amber, red, light purple, ice blue and 1 x dark blue.

If you were to get the Signage parts yourself as per manual for Australia it would be:
Shapeways - $54 parts + $15 postage + $7 GST = $76 USD
Comet Pinball - $7 parts + $15 postage + $3 GST & clearance tax = $25 USD
Total = $101 USD = $142.50 AUD (at today's conversion rates 1 to 1.41)

What I can do is the following:
Shapeways - $54 for the signage parts + $5.50 GST = $59.50 USD
Comet Pinball - $7 parts (no GST & clearance tax as have in stock) = $7 USD cost of parts
Total = $66.50USD = $94 AUD
+ box / postage from me to you so about $105AUD gift payment or $110 merch payment and it will be tapped, fully assembled and tested for you just to assemble into the game including bolt and allen key for free.

If keen let me know & pay by Tuesday night this week as finalising the order and I will need payment up front as not something I want to keep in stock if you changed your mind.

just send me a PM with your colour preference and if you need or want anything else from Shapeways and then I can send through the total and my paypal email

Cheers

Jady

PS - Spots available
Spot 1 - taken
Spot 2 -
Spot 3 -
Spot 4 -

other CFTBL parts
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinkscftbl&sort=newest

28-10-18 - Spot 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 taken

Thanks guys
the list has closed at 5 kits (signage only) coming to me to be assembled and sent out to local Aussie's, just waiting on a few payments and then will chat soon when the parts arrive and will send them out.
Cheers
Jady

yes Aussies only this time around, for what turned out to be 5 kits were for aussies as I had enough lighting components in stock and pooled them into one shipping from Shapeways as saves Aussies $35 in postage costs from 2 places (Shapeways and Comet) per person.

The kits do not need painting and literally take 10 minutes to assemble the mod and another 15-20 minutes to the existing mod.

Update on v3 - had to dodge crappy weather with painting but got the final coat of paint, now let it cure and do a test fit on the weekend and then finalise decals and updated SS base plate design for quoting.

Sorry it has taken a while as it is my hobby and not my full time job - I will get there.

yes el wire lighting and 5 screws on top is a v1 Snackbar

list has capped out and now closed - will update soon

Thanks heaps for sharing Randy, very much appreciate positive and constructive feedback.

Yes the led strip is a very tight fit and I never thought to line up a frosted and non frosted strip against each other to see if their is any difference but doubt there is much in it, though there may be slight differences in size from batch to batch from the manufacturer. When I get the aussie ones I will capture a few more photos and release an improved version of the manual. I did have to snip a corner to get a better kit and I did design the mod for the glow as near impossible to ensure a led on the strip backlights every letter perfectly.

Enjoy

Snackbar Mod V3.0
Update 5-11-18

- firstly sorry for the delays everyone, but at least no one has money down so please bare with me and I totally understand if people drop out due to the development time or if you have sold the game since putting your name down. I want to be transparent to my supporters so please read and trust that I am trying to do my best for you all.

- parts of version 3.4c were very nice and just one slight change to the now v3.4d which is really a slight change for the allowance for extra lighting to light up the top when the Snackbar is open feature which won't come standard with the mod, as don't want to hold this off any longer for you guys patiently waiting and trying to keep the mod under a certain price. There is no guarantee that this additional feature will work the way some want it but it will be a goal down the track.

- next is the price which is still not final but I was slogged with 2 challenges recently that I never experienced with the Snackbar Mod v1 and v2.
1. any goods (3d printed parts, lighting, domes etc) coming from overseas to Australia as of July this year are now subject to an extra 10-15% import tax where before it was only on purchases over $1000 so I always stayed under $1k hence the batches of 10-12 in the past.
2. new Shapeways Pricing was introduced on the 22-10-18 which meant some parts went up 20-50% which stressed me big time and the Shapeways community is in a uproar at the moment. Over the weekend I reached out to 2 well respected pinside guys / mates in the USA that were buyers of Version 1 & 2 for some feedback / advice as I was at the point of pulling the pin and cancelling the mod all together - but I don't want to quit nor let you guys down.

- I have been heavily researching my printing options the last few days and believe I found 2 options with in Australia for the tops which immediately reduces the cost possibly by about $40 - $50 per mod as long as the quality is maintained. Yes I know some might think you could do it with a home 3d printer for a lot less - and yes I could as I have a printer but the quality is not up to my standard and I sure previous buyers can vouch for the engineering and quality that I build these and I want the parts to be solid not unstable hollow prints.

- I should have pricing back for laser cutting hopefully in the next week and then over this week and next finalise the decal design and send out at the end of next week for pricing so getting close.

- I will order a Snackbar Top from a Aussie company to check the quality this week.

- Version 2's closed out at $275 AUD and with just the import taxes on parts pushes the mod up to roughly $325 AUD at the recent exchange rate

- Version 3's were pricing in at over $425 AUD with the import taxes and shapeways price increase hence I felt this was insane and I personally was not comfortable selling at that price and got rather stressed about that. I want to get under the $400 AUD and trying my hardest to be more than just by a few dollars under $400.

I will report back soon once I have a final price and then will be touching base with everyone to see who is still in.

Also note prices are in AUD and not in USD as most of the list are US guys apart from a few aussies and a few European guys as well. And I will still maintain my promise for 5% discount to those who already bought a v1 or v2 from me or 10% discount if you bought both mods from me.

Lastly my approach to mods is basically I do it because I enjoy it and it is a hobby and hence why I have done a number of mods for CFTBL. People have said in the past I show too much, show it too early and drag people along but I like to share the journey and include them in the process and open it for them to offer tips, changes, advice etc so they feel part of the journey.

thanks for reading and respect what ever decision you make (stay in or bail)

Jady

don't worry I am not happy at that price

update 8-11-18

- narrowed down the professional 3d printers in Australia and ordered a sample - if good the cost of the mod is improving
- got a quote from pinballers Railways for laser cutting and they are sending me a few samples to test fit - also looking good

just have to work on and finish the decals now

update 13-11-18

- got 2 samples of the new design plates and Railways has done a incredible job in laser cutting - these are the best ones since doing v1,v2 and now v3's. I test fitted and awesome
- picked up all the bolts and allen key hardware for a batch of 60 mods today
- sample should get here in the next few days from an aussie 3d printing company for the top only - if all good we are getting much closer
- decals left to go and template done and will use similar art but mix it up a little - open for minor changes - share your ideas - was thinking either stars on the top of silhouettes of a couple lying on the roof or similar to what has been on v1's or v2's of the original decal.

2 samples - mirror and slightly grained
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plate with locator posts
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sample plate installed - everything lines up nicely
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v3 snackbar slides and locks real nice
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what do people want for the Stainless Steel plate?
- mirror finish
or
- slightly grained

will be ordering the major preferenced

you don't see much of the plate once the decal goes on, but some people like one look over the other - there is no difference in the cost.

let me know

for the aussie guys that got either a v1.5 or v2.5 signage upgrade for their existing mods - the package has left the US 2 days ago, won't be long guys.

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thanks guys, grained plates is locked in

update 16-11-18

Pricing

I will lock in the price of the mod at $350 AUD / Australian Dollars (excluding postage which is about $30-40 to the USD / Europe) with the Australian or Belgium made snackbar tops.

I don't know how people feel about the PRICE but I need people to send me a PM if they are still in (respond via your original message to me please) and if keen send me your POSTAL address and phone (both for shipping) to show me you are definitely keen.

I am willing to over-commit on parts for 60 mods for:
- stainless steel plates,
- all the shapeways parts (except the snackbar tops) as there is a sale at Shapeways on Cyber Monday that I will get the light blades and signage kits, as these will go up 25-40% after the 1st Jan - my attempt to keep the cost down
- decals
- and have already bought the allen keys and bolts
and then purchase 10 tops at a time to paint up in batches

If I don't get enough response / commitment via pm in the next week I will not proceed, as I need a little over 35 units just to break even on parts alone, excluding labour - so need 40 people to be committed.

I do ask that if you are on the fence or DEFINITELY NOT keen to PLEASE let me know and I will remove you off the list and I WILL NOT be offended. I am asking for your morale support to be honest if you are keen or not keen as I am still not asking for a prepayment.

And lastly these are the last 60 x Snackbar Mods ones to be made as will not be making anymore in the future.

As for timing - I estimate to paint and send out 12 units every 4-6 weeks so hopefully all delivered to people by August 2019.

I will await pm's and adjust the list as I go.

I just had a question wanting me to define this more:

- if 40 or more people commit I will buy all the SS plates, decals, light blades and signage and comet lighting for 60 kits to keep the cost down and buy 12 tops at a time.

- if I have less than 60 of supportive people.... eg say 30 people. I will buy 60 x SS plates & decals but will only buy 30 sets of light blades, signage and lighting for those that committed. If the other say 30 people show interest at a later date the price will be subject to cost of parts at that time which at this stage would predict around $400 for the mod. If only 10 people respond I will do as little as a run of 10 only if that is all the interest and that is all that might get made, potentially EVER.

- currently making only 60 mods, and have 70 interested on the list, everyone keeps they place on the list as they are now but after next week those that committed with a pm, along with their POSTAL address and phone no: (for shipping) these people will be merged to the front of the list and the none committed ones will fall back to the back of the list and will pay more due to the pass on cost of higher prices after Cyber Monday.

Therefore this could be very limited and will await pm's

thanks

Jady

thanks guys I am getting some responses but not everyone is giving me their full info eg.

full postal address
phone number

I have sent everyone a email so please check that as Friday 23rd November is crunch time and if not replying with the full info the list will be greatly reduced.

none of the info provided will be shared, so your privacy is respected.

regards

Jady

unpacked and assembled today ready to repack to the 5 guys and head to you guys.

here is a concept and open for suggestions
- for the film decal - I am wanting to capture the light shining towards the snackbar hole art on the playfield and now over the hole with the yellow and still keeping the FILM
- for the top decal - I am thinking of linking the art on the speaker panel - and will also add some stars and thinking a UFO or Creature image

* the decal on the top still will sit back 2.5mm from the edge so you will still see blue of the top
* the white outline will be the decal cut line

please share your thoughts, good, constructive, creative

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The "Open" is the same design as v1 and v2 with roughly the same placement but in Red not blue and personally not in a great visible spot, though half the decal is not really seen throughout the 3 versions from the players perspective. At that stage people wanted it but it never was in a clear visible spot like some of the other cool art on the plastics in this game - is busy and layered.

I will get the Pantone swatches out and try and get close to the playfield art for the surrounding yellow for the FILM decal, though once in a decal, printed and the games lighting on it always looks a little different - sometimes the slightly different colour works just as well.

For the Snackbar decal
- My personal desire is to put on the ball on a pole similar to other art and like the original plastic had the back lit dome.
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- Or a creature image / ufo in white line art and then when I hopefully release a second light the top feature in Snackbar open mod these become better seen.
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Any ideas guys, or does everyone want a similar decal and colouring to the Version 1 or 2, I will work on my 2 ideas and put it out there hopefully over the next couple of nights.

A little update for the guys waiting for their mods. They arrived a few days ago and I have fitted them up, tested and mailed out to the 6 aussies, Enjoy.

Also for anyone tempted for any repro parts, mods, pinball tools Shapeways is having a 15% Cyber Monday sale this week - I should know the code soon.

here are 3 concepts that I have come up with, would like people to chime in on their preference as only going to print one of them, and happy to tweak / swap colours

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thanks guys for voting

tonight I will finalise a design down to a refined 2 designs taking people's comments into account

#1 - Orange Snackbar - rework the OPEN colouring and maybe using #2 FILM decal as a set
#2 - Pink Snackbar - try the neon tubes in yellow to make it more fitting and keep # FILM

The reason for the transition on the FILM from yellow to orange is the playfield has a transition of 2 different yellows

Also the list is closing tomorrow night Australian Time so if you haven't replied to a recent email message please do so otherwise you will drop off the list, please check your emails that you gave me.

and check your JUNK MAIL, the email is from a "pipedreams" or "swinks"

a quick concept merging elements of #1 into #2, personally I like the blend and was leaning to the pink but needed some more pop

PLEASE
- UP VOTE - if you like it
- DOWN VOTE - if you don't like it

and give some feedback if you have any suggestions

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totally agree j_m_

I think the pink with the vibrant blue is the pick - thanks for the tweak

locked in.......

ok, only about 30hrs left to let me know if you are keen & committed for the mod and then the list is closed and locked in only for those listed below.

- started with 75 people
- 8 people let me know they dropped out
- 33 people are let me know they are still in
- 34 people have not responded

Here is the list of people locked in for the mod (33 pinsiders):
Soulrider911
Joshmx19
freegame450
Manny65
Manny65
Adsnems
davidmhoggan
Xerxes
dhawk
2Fun
j_m_
john17a
jfh
Jodannar
cubesnake
Malibu-SS
10pingrn
Toucanf16
DesTheopta
mrbillisphere
Mank
Mtg381
FtrMech
gameroompinball
metal-mods
brett
Guzz4851
paragon07
locke987
Wharhed
RaoulJuke
Baboon
Magicchiz

If you are not on the list above but were on the list originally, then I haven't received your response from last weeks post here and to a detailed email to your email address that you gave me. I need you to confirm the following by the end of Friday 23rd November if you are keen and committed:
Full name
Full Address
Phone Number

Yes and No

Yes it is a little sad
but
No I am not surprised

I doubt I will be making anymore after these, so these will be extremely limited

no dramas if you don't want to go ahead, I am not worried either way but the line in the sand is tomorrow night as I have to spend a chunk of money over the weekend to take advantage of the weekends sales to keep the price as suggested and will be too expensive next year with the price rises for various parts.

all the best

I got a email from Shapeways a few days ago saying Cyber Monday is the sale day for the public to purchase designs with a discount. They have done it weird this year.

Creator Sale | November 22-26
15% off your own model, including those made with our Creator Apps and on Spring & Wonder

Design with Shapeways Sale | November 22-26
25% off your initial design package

Cyber Monday Sale | November 26 only
15% off sitewide on own model and Shapeways marketplace

You are not a moron mate, all good and never dumb questions.

I only did 6 kits for aussies recent as I was ordering a few other things and saved them postage. Postage from me to you is roughly $30, so cheaper from Shapeways to you and there is no painting of the parts.

Also check out if Comet Pinball has any sales - good weekend to buy and save a few dollars.

For those getting the mod, I went to Comet's site to order all the lighting and selling out of alot of the lighting and want to secure some for the first batch at least.

The photos below is of a v2 with the signage so the v3 will look similar but the tubes are more rounded now and I have run out of all the purple due to the kits I sent out for upgrades.

So please cast your votes between now and midnight EST as then placing orders on the majority voted.

UP VOTE
for blue tubes with purple signage

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DOWN VOTE
for purple tubes with purple signage

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My preference is blue for the long neon tubes and purple for the signage (amber looks good as well in the signage but purple looks the best)

no worries, will take you off the list and yes that was the reason for the upgrade for previous owners so they can upgrade

Cyber Monday is Shapeways sale, 15% and code should be on their front page on the day.

yes , Cyber Monday is for the public to buy models

super easy, as it is just a socket bulb with an adaptor, you can restore the game back to original in 10 minutes

Thanks everyone, the list is closed and we have 37 people, so have started ordering parts and will post updates as I progress. Along with that are 3 prototypes, 1st was a dud and the other 2 are good. So a total of 40 x Snackbar v3.0's.

I will be making 3 batches (12, 12, 13) and since there is a waiting period for the tops and then painting, a batch won't be ready before Christmas but hoping early / mid Jan. And all mods will be fitted with light blue lighting behind the neon tubes and purple for the signage.

The final people are:
Soulrider911
j_m_
Joshmx19
freegame450
PeterG
Manny65
Manny65
Adsnems
davidmhoggan
Xerxes
dhawk
2Fun
john17a
jfh
Jodannar
aztarac
cubesnake
Malibu-SS
10pingrn
Toucanf16
DesTheopta
mrbillisphere
Mank
Mtg381
FtrMech
gameroompinball
metal-mods
Pinball_Syd
brett
Guzz4851
paragon07
locke987
Wharhed
RaoulJuke
Baboon
Magicchiz
Coindork

Chat soon.
Jady

I got a mate to print some basic decals on sticky paper and then do a dodgy hand cut out to test the look and looks the part.

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You will also notice the neon tubes are now more rounded and stick out from the front face of the building for the more realistic look and is more visible from the players eye level.

Note: I ran out of purple lighting for the sign so used some amber that I had left over.

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Thanks
It really comes down to personal taste but changing out the colour is a simple job, especially with the top being a slide and lock with one screw only takes 5-10 minutes depending on experience to remove and change the strip. I will detail in the manual.
Unfortunately all my lighting just left comet so am locked into the purple but for about $4 the colour can be changed by going here and getting one of these.
https://www.cometpinball.com/MATRIX-10-SMD-5050-6-3V-LIGHTED-STRIPS-p/10smd6.3vstrip.htm

cheers
Jady