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Has anyone hear looked into a product called Ceramic Pro to protect playfields? It has a hardness/scratch resistance of 9H which is pretty damn tough. It is permanent so would need to be done right first time Could this have a similar result to the old Diamond Plate finish? Just something to think about. US Navy uses it for some applications.
I,m just moving past auto applications for clear and thinking about other industries that may need a super tough clear. Military,Aerospace etc. However those industries might have special permission from the government to use more toxic materials to get the desired results. I,m just curious about everything that’s out there. Who knows. Sometimes you find something better than the current standard.
Quoted from robertmee:I have Opticoat ceramic on my car and I concur...amazing stuff. But ceramic coat isn't really impact or scratch resistant. No more than a good coat of wax is. So not sure the value on a PF.
The stuff I looked at had a scratch resistance of 9H. That’s pretty tough stuff. Like I said might not be feasible but I,m just spitballing here.
Quoted from robertmee:https://avalonking.com/blog/the-truth-about-ceramic-coatings/
9H is better than nothing, but it's not impervious to scratches. I'm not knocking your idea...it's a good one. Just not sure how well it would apply to a steel ball.
"Most newer coatings for cars are typically rated 9H on the pencil scale. This is the highest possible scratch resistance, however… 9H Ceramic coatings for cars are not thick or flexible enough to absorb the impact of a rock hitting your paint at highway speed or to resist against someone purposely trying to scratch your car."
Appreciate the input. I feel like I heard most auto clear is like 2-4H but maybe more flexible which might be needed.
Quoted from Ilushka85:The biggest advantage of ceramic on a car vs wax is that it lasts for years 3-10 depending on the coating and thru washes. Pinball playfields are not exposed to the same elements as cars like rain car washes and sun. So I doubt it would be any better than wax or the standard clear coat. Wax typically stays on a playfield for a long time and given the cost of a good ceramic coating I doubt it’s longevity on a playfield compared to wax makes sense.
The ceramic coat I,m looking at is permanent I believe. I think there are lesser versions that are more like a wax/sealant. What I,m (and probably everybody else) looking for is the unicorn. Something closer to the old Diamond Plate finish. Technology in coatings can change over time so it’s good to always be on the lookout.
Quoted from Ilushka85:Having done ceramic coatings on multiple of my exotic cars none are permanent and ceramic pro is nowhere near the best of the available coatings for longevity or otherwise.
On there website they say the 9H version is a permanent solution although they use 4 coats for lifetime warranty. Says the only it comes off is with abrasion/sanding. And I,m not saying I,ve checked out all the ceramic coatings out there. Ceramic Pro 9H is the first one I saw.
Quoted from Ilushka85:It’s all marketing. They provide lifetime warranty when applied by a dealer and it’s next to impossible to get anything from them. No coating lasts a lifetime. It will probably last forever in a pinball machine. But wax lasts pretty long too
I doubt it’s all marketing. Ceramic coatings like this were originally designed by NASA so I don’t believe they are all hype.They also have light version of this product that last a couple years I believe. This is the ceramic coating I was already aware of and was hoping for a more durable version. I,m not looking for better wax. I,m looking for better clearcoat or alternative although not sure a heavy duty ceramic coating could be used as a stand alone clear but it seems like some of these higher end ceramic coatings are actually bonded to your paint/clear which could be much better than wax.Like I said this product might not work at all but I,m interested in a better mousetrap.
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