* UPDATE: Rob has made good on settling up with me and I appreciate it.
Two weeks ago I purchased this Centaur for 3850.00 https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-centaur-2#postbox
As you can see in the photos and ad for this game it claims it is in awesome original shape above average condition and shopped. Unfortunately, IMHO it is none of these things. In my attached photos you can see that two unnecessary holes are drilled all the way through the playfield behind the ORBS drop targets, I can't see how anyone could shop this machine and not take note of such a thing nor disclose it in their ad asking beyond top dollar (Pinside currently quotes 3200.00 as the games estimated value) for a classic machine.
In hindsight, I should have seen the red flags, the seller/s told me they needed my money within 24 hrs or were likely to change their minds on selling the machine as they were trying to fund a bulk pin purchase and didn't necessarily even want to sell the game. I went ahead and sold my Centaur to a friend with an uninstalled CPR gold PF and set of mirrored plastics to fund the purchase, I was very eager to get an original untouched playfield with day 1 factory installed mylar (my present one was decent but had some noticeable touchups on the PF).
My contact with the sellers was always rushed and I get it; everyone is busy but I requested photos with the glass off and never received any. When the game arrived at first I was pretty sure I had gotten exactly what I expected but upon a quick initial inspection I was soon bummed to not only find the holes in the playfield but that upon launching a ball that the upper lane guides were flopping around. Several of the screw holes on the game are stripped! The lower Left lane guide is also affected, not sure how anyone who supposedly shopped a game (or was selling what they claimed to be a shopped game) wouldn't at least stick a few toothpicks in there so it would effectively pass a play test with flying colors. Also, anyone that had done a play test would have immediately noticed these problems, it just showed me no shits were given.
Lastly (I hope) after wondering why it was such a bitch to close I realized that the coin door is concave, kinda looks like someone probably kicked it at least once during it's life
When questioned about the games undisclosed issues it quickly went to a "well, it was at the other guys house and I never looked at that game talk to him" when I called the other guy it was "I never claimed it was shopped I think the guy I got it from shopped it" ???!!? Needless to say at this point I am just beside myself at the level of apparent shadiness, whether it waspurposeful or accidental (of course people miss things or make mistakes). The present claim on the sellers end is that "we'll make it good or buy it back". After discussing with some pin peers what I should ask for discount wise the amounts of 800-1000 were the funds mentioned, when I suggested the amount of a 1000.00 refund to go towards the purchase of a CPR playfield I was told they'd buy it back instead. I pointed out that they also owe me 483.00 for shipping the game on top of the 3850.00 I paid them, if they ship it back they'd be at nearly 1000.00 regardless.. smh
Not sure how this will play out, supposedly they are going to make a decision today and get back to me. At this point my patience is beyond thin and I made the stupid decision (all my own) to sell my other Centaur so I'm out because I gambled on a wish.. Just bummed as this was the first and perhaps last time I've purchased a game on Pinside. Anyone have any thoughts to share or constructive feedback? Thanks in advance.