That's the best rendition of it that I can suggest. If I was able to record it somehow, would it be possible to attach the sound file to a post here ? Is there a printed list of all the callouts somewhere ?

Are these available at IPDB ? I had seen a list of some alternate ROM rules (primarily) for tournament use, but did not notice anything that seemed appealing to me.

No, from here. The info is there for the changes to gameplay, just a few things, but much better than stock. The "laugh" Centaur gives you for knocking the Orbs out of sequence is a great addition alone.

https://www.pinball4you.ch/okaegi/pro_soft.html

centaur / 27 - down near the bottom of the page.

File name:

p-centv27.zip

It's not a case of just downloading & burning ROMs, it's a bit more, you need patch some files together & create some custom ROMs from memory

I believe the callout you are referencing is, “Slow, aren’t you?” which can be heard when a ball rolls down a lane that is already lit.

Centaur would prefer you react faster with your lane change!

I'm thinking this is "slow, human" when you fail to make a lane change and the ball rolls over a lane that's already lit.

1) normal shooter spring Williams plain silver.
ref. 10-148-1 .035 dia wire.
2) adj. ball release alley wire forms and transition plate.

The two callouts for lane change fails are “Slow, aren’t you!”, and “Bad move, human!”.

Never mind, already answered above. Slow, aren't I.

The guy coded it via Arduino. Evidently not for sale, but cool rule set for the game.

I see. That puts it firmly in "nope" territory for me. Thanks for the info.

That’s what I call a great response. Thanks Malfeitor

Thanx for that list.

In Post # 1804, ant_ wrote:
"I believe the callout you are referencing is, “Slow, aren’t you?” which can be heard when a ball rolls down a lane that is already lit."

You are probably correct with that . . . and if so, it sure sounds to me as though that phrase is going fast and getting slurred, making a misidentification easy. I think this has happened also sometimes with the occasional callout from *other* noted pins -- including at least one that I own. This was likely more apt to happen in early SS days, rather than with the more contemporary sound hardware. The major example of that eludes me at this moment, but I'll mention it the next time I'm reminded of it.

If anyone else has some examples like that, feel free to chime in.

Funhouse: I always thought Rudy was saying "How odd" when everybody else told me it's "Power up".

There is a term for when color and sound become perceived to do two separate things.
Some people will hear one thing and others hear something different.

I *know* what I'm hearing, and am confident that it's not far off the mark.

Happened to recall the one that was temporarily out of reach before: It's from Embryon, another from the "Class of '81", and tied to that can-bail-you-out right side smaller Return flipper. The feature is called "FlipSave", but the associated callout comes across as "Hurtsave." Anyone: tell me you've played that pin a lot, but don't get the same impression. How does that callout come across to you ? I'd have to call this a case of poor enunciation.

Don't know what happened there with Post 1817 -- was supposed to be an edit.
How do you delete a post that went wrong ?

A funny saying that Bally had, was from the Beat the Clock pinball game.
Back in the day, when I was working at an arcade place, the high level of
noise from all the video games and such would distort all voice call outs.
Beat the Clock voiced attract call out, would sound like "Eat the C*ck".
Atari Pole Position; deep,deep,BEEEP would cut through the air.
This would happen do to the sound frequencies of the Fletcher Munson curve.

Cool. I always thought it was saying "Subtle, aren't you." Slow makes more sense.

Been some discussion in the tech threads on how the speech chips can vary one to another and have subtle changes in output. Some will be slightly garbled, others clear as a bell. Aging caps and other board components can also impact output.

Add also S&T can pickup radio stations too.

If R9 in particular goes out of spec it can affect speech to some degree for sure. You can correct slow, fast, or garbled speech (in some cases) by changing the TMS5200s associated R9 resistor to a different spec, or to the factory spec (if it is out) or do what I did & install variable resistor.

That cleaned up the garbled speech. Fun to hear speech from very slow almost unintelligible to chipmunk sounding speech!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/broken-speech-chip-tms5200nl-in-squawk-and-talk-board#post-5303693

My friend sent me a video of Genie that would pickup a local radio station when the board was touched.

& also @Joydivision,
That would certainly explain a lot.

Does anyone know of any 3D printing files to make these? They appear to be out of stock for all vendors.

I've been looking for over 2 years for spares. Usually find one or two at PF swap meets. I have used 3D printers for 20 years in aircraft business for protos and the FDM printers probably won't have the strength or integrity to hold up to the abuse of a pop bumper and the clip ears will break immediately. SLA materials are getting better all the time and might be a better option. I have a carbon fiber printer at work that would probably hold up structurally however it's quite expensive to print on it and is only black (naturally...) That said, if you want to try it, I'll model one and send you an STL to test it on your printer. If there was a lot of interest for these, I could source making a soft injection die and shoot it with a 15-30% glass fill and would part last forever. Die charge would be around $3500 and be capable to inject around 250 max

I'm willing to give it a go with ABS that has been vapor treated, I think it would hold up.

Ok. I'll model it up. Give me a bit. I'm pretty busy with work/traveling etc.

I believe the callout you are referring to says "Slow, aren't you"

I think you must be correct on that. However, I think most people would hear it fast and slurred together, the way that I described. This seems to have gotten explained in a couple of recent thread posts. It probably would not be worth the trouble or expense to fix this -- either on Centaur or with the given example on Embryon.

I did buy replacement pop bumper housings (the domes . . . and maybe also the "collar" piece they click or partially screw into ? -- either from Marco or PinBallLife, can't recall now. These were just a solid red, not really matching the originals' appearance exactly. They did work though. Durability in use will be anyone's guess. But that might not be the part you were all referring to ?

No.

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-8325-5

And PBR in NY would not have them either ?
(This is exactly the type of part that I normally try to get spares of.)
How common is it for these to break ?
Seems like these would apply to a lot of other games ? If so, wouldn't there be a substantial demand for them ?
If someone ever remakes them somehow, so that they are available once more, please post the info here.

typical they only break when removing the caps, problem is the “clips” are fragile on old games as the plastic has gotten dry and brittle. Pretty sure these were being remade at one point, as I picked up a couple back when CPR did their centaur playfield run to replace the damaged ones on my game when I did the swap. and pretty sure they were not old stock. Not sure how many games used them, I know I have a set for my EBD that I have yet to install. Hmm, wonder what haggis is using, given they are remaking that era Bally machines. Pretty sure fathom used that same style body/cap.

I'm not familiar with that Mfr.'s name, but we could ask them ? It shouldn't amount to a state secret or anything like that.

Can I get a clear picture of the wiring order of connector J3 on the SDB? What I have and what the Manual says, don't seem to jive on pins 12 and 13.

Thank you very much! I'll check this tomorrow.

sometimes it is just a joy to look at a shiny playfield... https://www.facebook.com/mark.rogan/videos/10218207904723246

I've had my minty Centaur for a little less than a year. I only recently noticed something interesting during gameplay. When hitting a release target with four orbs "saved", and all the balls have been deployed, the ORBS drop targets do not reset if all five balls are still in play. There's so much going on during a five-ball multiball, that I haven't yet noticed if it's only when the targets are hit in sequence. If that's the case, is the game designed this way?? I'm thinking that the targets might not reset, due to the fact that there are no more balls in the trough to deploy? I could manually force this scenario I suppose, but haven't done it yet.

Wondering if someone might have some insight to this.... Thanks!

They should reset straight away at all times regardless of what's going on.. With maybe a slight delay at most. I just simulated this scenario on my game with all 5 balls in the shooter lane, manually pressing many switches along with the ORBS targets in & out of sequence, the targets reset as normal - when targets dropped in sequence, targets reset, but no ball is of course deployed (as all 5 are out) & the GI doesn't go out momentarily like when a ball is normally deployed. I am running the Oliver custom ROMs, but would expect the same from the stock ROMs.

Odd problem, maybe a dip switch or coin door setting(s) combination that is somehow affecting the reset, not sure how it could though, but all I can think of. Are you running a stock -35 MPU?

Regarding the MB target, for MB release at the appropriate times: I've had the capacitors replaced with new ones, as discussed earlier in the thread, but am still not seeing much in the way of the desired improvement. There still seem to be what look to me like very legitimate target hits in that situation which fail to trigger the Multiball. Some good hits do, some don't -- but it's kinda haphazard. Also, if the scoring multiplier happened to be lit in that lane at the same time as an available MB, a solid shot up the lane may trigger ONE of those TWO (or sometimes neither !), but NEVER both of them. Is it supposed to be that way ?

Fresh capacitors should greatly improve the MPU’s ability to register hits. Maybe the cap is installed wrong or maybe the gap on the target is set too wide. Post a picture. The group might see something wrong.

Yep, it’s odd for sure. I had a similar situation on my fathom when the 123 targets didn’t always reset. That was a simple switch gap adjustment when I noticed the number three target didn’t score before the targets failed to reset. It’s interesting tho that on my Centaur, it only happens during multiball, though I’m still not sure if it happens all the time, since I’m concentrating on just keeping the balls in play. I’ll do a little research to see if it’s a dip switch or coin door setting. Thanks!

Also, I am running an Alltek MPU.

Picked up a project this week...so I need some things....I need a manual, but looking at the online manual, I don't see any of the mech parts breakdown..where to find those as I need some minor springs and such...Thanks gents...

Go to planetary pinball and search for 1981 bally parts manual.

Thanks I did find it...tell me if this looks off...manual doesn't show this bar(bottom of spring)...and the springs look longer no(in the manual)?..also the skinny bar behind the one the springs are attached to doesn't look like it belongs either...can someone tell me what the deal is with this mech?

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Everything in the picture is correct.

Rod: Spring L = x.y ( 2 REQ'D )
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