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I doubt we will see any of the wide body games. I think we are going to see TOM after CC and then that's it for the remakes
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Quoted from Swoods5688:Ive heard rumor for a few sources that this will be a SE, LE
I have heard the same thing
Quoted from ClassicHornet:I heard the drop Targets were illuminated pre production?
That's correct. They had problems with them breaking.
2 weeks later
Quoted from DBP99:According to Ryan's video should be less than 2 weeks (at the latest)!
I will believe it when I see it.
1 week later
Quoted from pcprogrammer:Pricing is what I'm most curious about. Wasn't an AFM LE $8,500 not too long ago?
No, AFM LE was $8,000
4 weeks later
Quoted from pcprogrammer:The only rumor I heard was that they might not be showing it at expo this year. Really hope that isn't true.
Will be crazy if they don't but I think this may come to pass.
Quoted from indypinhead:Have you tried getting on the list w/ Sara @ PPS?
No, I should have. Didn't really think was was going to want an LE and just get the SE, till now. Probolly too last for PPS. 
Quoted from PPS:Never say never ... best to get on the list and if we see that everyone is on 10 different reseller list then things can open up ... contact [email protected]
Done. Thanks!
Quoted from iceman44:I’d never buy a game from PPS though
Why is that? I have bought parts from them and have been very happy.
Quoted from epthegeek:They did work out a deal with me; but how much of what I did they choose to use isn’t up to me.
WOW! This is new news. Very cool. I hope they used a lot.
I heard from my dealer that I am in on an LE! Man am I excited
Quoted from Vino:Imagine Brian Allen is already licking his chops.
I would love to see what he comes up for as far as the translite goes. I have his MM one and LOVE it.
Quoted from RA77:The matt black looks excellent. (Photoshopped ? )
Photoshopped for sure. As mention, this is nothing like the actual game at expo.
Quoted from nicoy3k:A topper, some molded plastic on the tracks, a plastic cart on top of the mine, and art blades…. I don’t see that as a no brainer at all.
Well, the topper is interactive with a mini game and is super cool. You also get a longer warranty and a shaker motor.
The LE was for a no brainer for me and cant wait till I get it.
Quoted from JSC:They said they were undecided on the topper being available separately.
I bet they do end up selling the topper, sounds like they are leaning that way.
Pretty sure all the dealers have the allocations now. PinballSTAR for example is selling his tomorrow at noon. I got word from my dealer earlier that I made the cut for an LE.
Quoted from Damonator:There are characters in each window and if you look closely in the pic I took, you can see a skull and crossbones outline in each window. I assume the skull and crossbones lights when the character is defeated.
Did anyone get the mode to play the topper mini game? Apparently you need to hit the beer mug 10 times and then shoot it in the saloon.
Quoted from dawasa:Also no games or spots should have been sold until today.
Why? How would holding sales till today help any? Opening sales after unveiling game makes a lot more sense.
Quoted from rai:Drunk Multiball is from CC Continued that has nothing to do with this game.
From earlier in thread....
Quoted from epthegeek:They did work out a deal with me; but how much of what I did they choose to use isn’t up to me.
Quoted from Krupps4:For example, should I get on the “list” now for CGC’s release in 2025? It’s not sour grapes, just making a point.
Thats what a lot actually do before even knowing the game.
Quoted from flynnibus:Because I really think they could possibly charge 2k
The market will support it….
I think new code for $2k wont fly. No way.
From the seminar it sounds like they plan for the code to code to also add additional physical elements. No clue on what that may be
Quoted from flynnibus:As for just software… remember they already sold color upgrades for $400 was it?
You know they came up with that price looking at what ColorDMD's run, has to be. My crazy, based on nothing guess is we are looking at $500-$750.
Quoted from cavalier88z24:Metal coating on the armor.
Thanks! This is the best pic posted of the armor.
My guess is the topper won't be sold by itself for the same reason Mr Duba stated why they won't be making more then 1250 units.
Quoted from badbilly27:I think CGC screwed up on the LEs and the model is upside down. It's insane to announce a game and the LE's are already sold out. This shouldn't be an elitist hobby, inside circle group, or buy every new title from disti so you automatically get it thing. I met so many new to hobbyists Expo weekend that were generally interested in an LE to be told - already sold out. Not the way to embrace the new blood pumping life into this hobby.
How is this different then trying to buy a Stern LE? Actually was easier to get CCr with Planetary offering them since Aug with a guarantee you could get one. All you had to do was say you were interested. No money needed. I haven't seen any Stern dealer do the same. I was on my dealers interested list since April. But if I wasn't it would have been easy to get on Planetary's.
Quoted from bmegar:I’ve been in and out for 20 plus years and never seen LE Pins sell out this quickly
Seriously? Every Stern LE has sold out in the same way for years now.
Quoted from gunstarhero:Didn’t stop them from releasing another “Limiteder Edition” on top of MMR LE
As has been pointed out several times now, the large screen and color changing LED's did not exist when the original MMr LE was built. CGC not only built new ones to match the current upgrades that the others (AFM and MB) had but also sold kits so those of us who bought the earlier ones could upgrade. They didnt make new "LE type" games of AFM or MB.
Quoted from jfh:That’s how you do it. Congrats!
Exactly! While everyone was complaining here he put in the leg work and scored one.
Quoted from gunstarhero:CGC is in business to make money, we would all be well served to remember that. They don’t care about us being mad or our resale values, they care about moving units. LEs are not sacred cows to them.
Actually, They did the kits and pricing to match the new offerings so to not piss off the original owners. Of course they are in business to make money. They are also interested in keeping their customers happy and coming back for more. CGC does a remarkable job in this area. Doug_Duba for example was in these threads explaining some of the decisions. That shows A LOT. I dont see Gary Stern commenting on pinside. To say they dont care is flat out wrong.
Quoted from gunstarhero:You feel like you feel and I feel like I feel so it is what it is.
Fair enough.
I think if they do sell the topper then they won't get the FOMO sales on the next LE. What's the motivation to jump right in?
Quoted from arcademojo:Fat chance. Does Stern include a topper on LE's NOPE!!! But they still sell out.
They have their own exclusives like mirrored backglass and diffrent cab art. Can't buy any of that stuff
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:What is happening on the topper that is interactive is also happing on the playfield as well somehow correct?
No. Its a mini game that you play on the topper
Quoted from Tommy-dog:I will cancel my order with a new Stern game and switch it to a CCr SE if I can get a topper from Chicago Gaming as an option down the road.
If you really wanted the game you would do that anyway. The topper is not going to make or break the game
Quoted from seenev:It doesn't really matter what the next CGC game is. I know I won't be interested, because the two times I've tried buying a CGC game before have been incredibly frustrating, and never for a good reason. If you want to play the LE game, then best of luck. You'll get a lot of interest that way, but you lose those of us who don't care about numbers and just want the features. I'm not just talking about a topper but the entire package.
I don't understand this as getting an LE was SUPER EASY by just contacting PPS when game was announced.
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:Your LE might have other features unique to it, a topper has never been one of these features
It has been and continues to be on CGC's AFMr and MBr.
Quoted from Tommy-dog:Not on the MMr. You could buy the topper for $599.
Thats why I didnt put MMr in my comment. As been mentioned, like a million times here, MMr is different as the topper was not available when the game first came out. The toppers were with AFMr and MBr and thats why they cant be bought separately.
Quoted from chillme:hopefully the topper can be disabled on the LE. I've never been a fan of the video mode games on pins, it's distracting and takes away from the flow of the game. I would expect this mini game would be the same. And how long before the topper breaks?? lol. (that will be the real toppergate)
Why not just get the SE then?
Quoted from JSC:I have read some comments about Saloon doors on an old prototype. What did they do?
It sounds like you needed to hit them a few times before opening so you could shoot into the Saloon.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:If you're in for an SE, don't care for the mini game topper (and the possible high cost), but you would like something pretty to cap off your game, Laseriffic already has you covered for less than $200.
Another alternative.....
il_1588xN.2616088718_81a9 (resized).jpgQuoted from iceman44:They sell LEs to create the FOMO. That’s how it works.
As has been said many times, it's a good thing pinside doesn't run the pinball companies. We would have zero new machines.
Quoted from apessino:I can't even tell what the arguments are about anymore..
you are not alone!
Quoted from jfh:I wouldn’t have ordered a remake if it was only going to have the original code.
I think that goes for most of us. well, maybe not the flippers
Quoted from ClassicHornet:The SE+ buyers should be asking for the shaker motor to be added to get the full gameplay experience, I imagine the shaker motor is actioned with gunshots also during the mini game
Or, just spend the $150 and add it in themselves
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:I don’t expect anything to be honest but would never expect a Backglass after thought to make people happy
I am hoping that CGC has a couple of strippers deliver and set up the game
Quoted from Vino:I really hope not!
Well, this just killed that idea! I guess I will also take the steak knifes
Quoted from Doug_Duba:Did we make mistakes? Absolutely, I can own them and learn from them. We will do better next time. I apologize for the drama this has created.
It’s time for me to return my focus to building games.
What an awesome post. You don't have to apologize for anything. The drama created here was frankly completely rediculos and I'm ashamed by some of my fellow enthusiasts.
As you pointed out, you guys build the best machines in the industry and my family has gotten tons of enjoyment from the three we have bought to date. We are VERY excited to get our CCr LE!
Looking forward to what your team comes up with next.
Quoted from Mando:That said feel free to throw in the free backglass to appease the whiners! I wont mind hahaha
I thought we agreed on a set of steak knives? 
Quoted from Doug_Duba:Never say never but it’s unlikely. Sales of the current models are strong are we are nearing completion of the next game. After we are done processing parts orders for the balance of the CCr orders we will focus on purchasing the parts for the next title.
Time to start saving.
Quoted from ifpapinball:Lyman and Josh are the final pieces of the puzzle that will make this game all it can be."
Fixed that for you Mr. Doug_Duba
Can't cut Josh out!
I'm really looking forward to what you guys come up with!
Quoted from iceman44:I like the caring and passion of Doug Duba! And the fact that you owned the mistakes made. That's all you can do and it ain't easy.
I totally agree. It's great to have the head of the company care enough to listen to our craziness and put up with all the negative that pops up here. Doug_Duba obviously cares deeply about the product and providing us with value. CCr LE will be my 4th CGC NIB purchase and I'm sure that number 5 will find its way here too.
Quoted from JSC:Rumors are Pulp fiction
I think one more remake is coming before their first original title.
Quoted from Tommy-dog:Those who are LOL'n are those people who are already locked in on getting a LE.
mark me as LOL
Quoted from Tommy-dog:I can't figure out why the SE+ is the same price as a full featured LE.
Cutest-Beating-Dead-Horse-GIF.gifQuoted from alveolus:If you win a gunfight he recoils as if shot. Not sure about other interactions.
In addition he points his gun at you when one of bad guy drop targets is up
Quoted from LTG:And long for the day when games start rolling out and the nature of this thread changes to game play and tech questions.
This day can not come fast enough.
Quoted from jchristian11:This is what every LE buyer thought the deal was, this is no longer the deal.
bdh2.gifQuoted from pinballonthemark:Thanks for your kind words. I was disappointed in that we couldn’t capture all the elements of the game at the same time. Once our other location at Press Start opens up we will have better streaming equipment to showcase the game. It was a last minute thing so people could see gameplay footage right away. Thanks for watching.
Any chance you uploaded this to YouTube?
Quoted from Hoteldrummer:They couldn’t even give Cirqus Voltaire’s away and closed them out for $1699 along with so many others.
I picked one up for $1899 and was bummed when the next month it dropped to $1699. Wish I bought a half dozen.
Quoted from Doug_Duba:We have screen printed all remakes utilizing spot colors as was done for the original games.
Your playfields are awesome. They definitely "pop".
Quoted from Deadpool66:I'm guessing they probably have more SE orders than 500?
Hard to say as I'm sure many converted to SE+.
Quoted from wackenhut:Is it just me or do others prefer the Stainless Trim vs the Gun Metal on the LE. I think it just fits the game better. Maybe it can be swapped out.
I agree that on the website it does look better. My guess is that the LE will look great in person. I am in on the LE and figure if I don't like it then I will go to pinball plating and get the hardware in chrome.
Quoted from Sunsfan23:I wonder how many toppers they have made already.
Not many. They are waiting on parts. The arms on the ones at the shows were 3D printed
Quoted from JoeHog:Saving up money for the the one after CCr.
So saving for TOM then.
Quoted from JoeHog:Actually got on the MMr list. Trying to figure out when it could be in production.
TOM will be before the next run of MMr
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:Hoping to see pics soon and if saloon door add on could be a possible venture
Doubtful. The original doors required the playfield to have two large cut outs for the mechs.
Quoted from LTG:Check out Fuhnhouse 2.0 thread here on Pinside
I cant seem to find this....
Quoted from PinballGalore:This should be enjoyable to listen to
I'm about halfway through and its great.
Quoted from Ruenin:So, given that Elvira HOH is now pushed until at least Dec 2022, what are the odds I can get in on a CCr Special Edition Plus?
You will have no problem getting one
Quoted from Krupps4:it doesn’t sound like the Lyman code is going to be a complete rework.
It really doesn't need to be. Just adding to what the base code is totally works for me.
2 weeks later
Quoted from Quadrat:I think the SE plus is limited to 1250 just like the LE.
That's correct
Quoted from explosiveegg:this is what Doug said
I wish Doug would come back and update us.
Quoted from MachineGunGuy:I paid above MSRP from my distributor.
CGC prohibits this and came on pinside asking for the names of dealers doing this. That being said, you got a game and are happy so thats all that matters. Welcome to the club.
Quoted from jfh:Yup, thanks. Saw your post a while back. That’s what I’m counting on. I’m just afraid there isn’t enough room for the arms to clear at their top point.
There is always this version......
4ab209e304972f5cdd2ba397c98fc0e2c8d6312d (resized).pngQuoted from jfh:$600 if it lights up, $1k if it moves.
and $1600 if it lights up AND moves!
Quoted from V8haha:And that one is hardly playable! Wait till you get on a brand new one
It was playing really well back in October
Quoted from explosiveegg:At this point I would not expect any SEs to ship before New Years. A lot of people will have time off around this time that most businesses move at a snails pace until after the new year.
I'd love to be wrong though!
Agree. Hopefully we will get an update in January.
Quoted from jfh:Even if we don’t get an update it sure would be nice to see pictures of games on the line.
I will settle for smoke signals!
Quoted from ClassicHornet:Or maybe one yellow and one green button to signify the PINEAPPLE
Or....
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Quoted from PtownPin:but clearly they don't have any interest in doing that.
Unfortunate as Doug Duba was here with updates right after launch. Please come back!
It sounds like they are missing something that's preventing the games going in boxes. If this is the case, then we may see a large amount all ship at the same time.
Quoted from transprtr4u:The next ? Will Stern get another out before CGC
It is starting to look that way
1 week later
Quoted from sizzler747:Is the whole line being held up by a missing playfield part???
This is the most likely explanation IMO.
Quoted from ClassicHornet:Are we still able to cancel LE orders ? Or has that ship sailed ?
Why are you thinking of canceling?
Quoted from ClassicHornet:No, i was just wondering if there was a time limit on that offer for ppl to cancel. I imagine there might be a few ppl that just cant wait for the LE and therefor might want to change their order ???
Got ya. I was going to suggest holding on if you were on the fence!
Quoted from ClassicHornet:Just listened to the podcast, seems the wait will be over very soon; SE’s this month & LE’s Feb then SE+
Let's hope this is the case! Can't wait
Quoted from Tranquilize:The great news is that there is a guy offering crossword puzzles to any CGC customer for FREE.
Are the crosswords pinball themed?
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:300 units of MM should sell instantly.
1k would sell instantly. I hope for all that want one they build a lot more then 300
Quoted from daveddd14:If you bought CCr from PPS get on the list, you will thank me.
I already have one. Hoping more get to enjoy the game as much as me and my family do.
Quoted from sizzler747:Actually they did make SE last run because that's where I got mine from. I heard they actually made 500 last run. Majority was Royal editions.
Right, This is the ONLY run SE's have came from
Quoted from SirMachismo:All I was told was that there were 50 names in front of me…but I would most likely get one. Now I realize I should have asked more questions.
Planetary will likely be getting this many. Hope this is who's list your on
Quoted from chuckcasey:What are the odds that Bally Cactus Canyon side blades (as seen @ Cointaker) will fit CCr ??
They should fit with a slight adjustment to the hole for the hinge bolt.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Mirror blades just arrived! Shaker on hand as well…
Just need the game!
You should probably proactively move the TV
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Hopping in the next few weeks!
That's the spirit!
Come on CGC, bring it on!
Quoted from EDUB919:Hopefully CCrLE will not require his assistance.
They are pinball machines! Will always require some tweaks. Good news is with CGC there seems to be only minor one and we have LTG to assist.
Quoted from Yesh23:Has anybody heard if any special additions are going out yet?
giphy.gifQuoted from explosiveegg:I really doubt they would be able to provide a reasonable time frame at this point. That doesn't mean they shouldn't communicate that with us. They definitely should...
Agreed. I think they have no idea and will just look bad if they miss another date.
Quoted from PtownPin:I asked my distributor for a status report as the silence is annoying (for me at least).
I am guessing it was met with more silence?
Quoted from jfh:All of the other distributor sites I’ve seen either required pay in full or deposits
My dealer also did not require a deposit for the glass.
Quoted from jfh:Tried to put the thread back on track and managed to derail it again. Sorry.
Mostly just looking for updates on whether PPS finalized the final design from their options (think they did), if anyone has comments on it from the bar where PPS was going to put the proto they showed in the quick video, if the subsequent video was ever done or if there are actual pictures detailing the mirroring.
I’ve paid in full for my backglass but haven’t even decided if I will put it in the game as I have an NOS CC translite autographed by John Youssi I may use instead.
Simple answer here. Put the signed translite into a lit frame and the glass into the game! Problem solved.
Quoted from jfh:I have lit frames for backglass art in a few places downstairs
Looks great!
Quoted from Vino:Ok, let’s get on track with a delivery update
Thankfully the LE's come second!
We were told the LE's would come after SE due to parts being delayed. I wonder if this is still the case now that they have all been massively delayed?
Quoted from jfh:I’m actually fine with LEs not going out first
I am too. Just was wondering.
Quoted from Deadpool66:Just come out and address the delay it’s not a big deal but some insight would be cool.
At this point I don't think that's happening.
Not unusual. All the games have had delays. The good news is they always deliver a fabulous product and will again with CCr
Quoted from jfh:Even with the original shipping estimates I didn’t really expect to see my game before late summer or fall. If it does, great! If not, ok
I think we will see our games sooner then this. Could be that there are a bunch built just waiting on a part or two and then will go out in large batches when parts arrive. This is my hope at least.
Quoted from bigdog50:This post topic needs to be changed to "I'm Bored and want to bitch about random topics preferably that have nothing to do with CCr"
gas prices.......
Quoted from ClassicHornet:All the pain has now disappeared
Man! I want to try the pineapple lumps.
Quoted from pinballinreno:LE has a real lizard on the gun handle, I think...(note to self: buy lizard food off amazon...).
Dealing with lizard poop will be a new part of a shop job!
Quoted from flynnibus:Re: games that went out… just another example where lack of communication just makes it worse for them. They could have easily announced the games that went out for a specific purpose and not the start of large scale shipping and then people wouldn’t be tripping over themselves after seeing a few games go out.
I totally agree. Time has come for an official update. Sadly I dont think it will happen.
1 week later
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:What about a topper … for troubleshooting purposes ??
This is a must! Come on CGC, get LTG his topper. Stat.
Quoted from 2pupPinz:Or replacement shooter rod with IJ style gun?
Not sure my hip would survive if I got a game that uses a gun for the shooter rod!
1 week later
Quoted from kempsuk:Hi All
Hearing rumours of a Mirrored Backless for CCr. When will these be available for purchase, where can I buy etc??
Not a rumor. Contact PPS to see if you can still order one.
Quoted from kapaun:At this rate I feel like I may end up buying a second NIB pin before I even take delivery of my first one
You wont be the first!
Quoted from PPS:we are working on similar covers as we speak - that will be under WMS license
Awesome! I'm guessing you will be doing the other remakes as well?
Edit: Richard beat me to it.
Quoted from flynnibus:pretty sure the older games used a plastic speaker panel - tho it's been awhile since I handled one.
The SEs are metal im pretty sure.
Quoted from The-Hum:The only thing that could make me reconsider getting this game is if CGC announced some spectacular original of their own.
That is in the works!
Quoted from The-Hum:I know it's coming but with the current supply chain challenges I can't imagine anything shipping for at least a year or three...
Only time will tell. CGC I'm sure hopes to speed up production. Will be worth the wait. IMO they make the highest quality games on the market and I look forward to what they have in store for us.
Quoted from Quadrat:Question did CC have lights from under the drop target gunfighters?
They did not
Quoted from DakotaMike:IDK, all this PPS exclusive stuff is a little bit of horseshit. I order my game from a great distributor, and then afterwards find out about exclusive mirrored backglass, special Brian Allen stuff, special LE upgrades, ect. that you can only get through planetary. Thankfully they walked back the mirrored backglass, but jeeze is all of this kinda sleezy or what?
I agree. It encourages you to not support your local dealer and go direct. Not fair to the other distributors.
Quoted from jfh:Perhaps. But I’m pretty sure PPS has the largest allocation of LEs if not overall games (by contract) so they have a built in advantage over anyone else for CGC remakes.
True but still not fair considering they also own the rights. Should be even playing field (not talking allocation) for every dealer to offer the same add ons.
Quoted from jfh:I got the Limited Edition print to display. Will probably stick with mirrored bg for the game itself.
Quoted from indypinhead:I have a mirrored backglass on order.
I orderd the smaller print...plan on framing it.
Great minds think alike! I did the same.
Quoted from indypinhead:I'm glad I got in early.
Me too. I would have been massively bummed if I missed this.
Quoted from PinStalker:Just curious, is there an expected delivery window for this game? I know it's going to be awhile.
If I put down a deposit on this today...... end of the year? Next year? Anyone know?
I watched the stream from the pinball show, was so impressed with them...... they deserve another sale.
Thanks!
Contact a CGC dealer. Each dealers allocation and orders are different
Quoted from MrMikeman:Personally I expect them to only make SEs in the next run and no classics. Whether they offer the topper or not remains to be seen. Other than the topper the only real difference between the SE and Royal is the shaker, powdercoat, and warranty anyway. They're all the same lol.
I have heard the same.
Quoted from NevadaNutJob:Maybe no more royals but I would be surprised if the upgrades weren’t offered - large screen , topper , shaker , etc …
CGC has already said that more of the add on kits are on the way.
1 month later
Quoted from Damonator:CC has proven to be more popular than they anticipated. After 500+ SEs made, there is still zero stock at distributors.
Several dealers have CC in stock for immediate pick up.
Quoted from herbertbsharp:Which ones?
Game Room Guys has 10
https://www.gameroomguys.com/Chicago-Gaming-Cactus-Canyon-Remake-Special-Edition-Pinball-Machine
Quoted from Damonator:That's cool that there is at least one distrib out there with stock.
That was one example....
Automated, LSOG and more have games avail.
Quoted from aaron6920:Looks like Hemisphere Amusements also has them in stock. Definitely not hard to find one that can ship right away but that certainly doesn't mean it isn't a popular title.
I wasnt suggesting that. I was just pointing out that several dealers had them avail. when it was posted that zero dealers had them.
Quoted from aaron6920:I was agreeing with ya sorry if my post didn't represent that. It's cool you can find them out there from a bunch of dealers.
I was just making sure. All good. Totally agree that readily available games is a good thing. Now they just need to start cranking out LE and the on the SE+!
5 months later
Quoted from Jaytech10:trying to fixed as well.
Well, seems all is fixed now as the LE's are shipping
Quoted from V8haha:Well my LE is supposed to arrive today. What a wait haha
Is it there yet?
Is it there yet?
is it there yet?
1 month later
Quoted from mnpinball:#061 looking forward to unboxing
Awesome! Who was your distributor?
4 months later
Quoted from Hayfarmer:It's a very noticeable upgrade when it's sitting next to a game with a translight. Off or on, very big difference.
Totally agree.
1 month later
Quoted from sepins:This is going to be another Munsters and Stranger Things.
Prices will continue to drift down until code is released.
The code in the game has been updated from the original game with loads added. It's lots of fun as it stands now. The new code/Hardware package coming will be icing on the cake.
Quoted from HighSpeed1:If you were lucky enough to own a 1998 CC with the unfinished code, it was actually fun as well.
I was. MUCH better now though.
Quoted from HighSpeed1:I just picked up a + yesterday. I'll get it set up when I have time. After letting go of my HUO CC, I always regretting selling it.
I did too. You will really love the remake.
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