If the ccr le ships with what mmr Royal did, expect the new price for those to be 10,500
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4 weeks later
Quoted from transprtr4u:confirmed .... bad decision !
! it will look good next to MMr and maybe a MBr if I go that route too.....
Quoted from underlord:Latest is 1-3 months before release. Does that mean ready in box or basic info about the game features?
It could be classic and se's ship sooner and only LE's are months?
Quoted from t2000:Not according to the email I received. Looks like LEs go first and it’s 2-3 months which is their best guess.
I didn't see anything about LE's being first, may of missed that.
Where did CGC/PPS say there will NOT be a classic? I have not heard that and even pinballnews reported there would be 3; The Classic, special edition and LE.
Quoted from transprtr4u:always joking about 2022 .... however the silence is deafening
Ughhhhh, so excited. However a week ago they said 2-3 months for le’s. I was hoping the classic and SE would be announced shortly so we could at least see the game!
Quoted from Concretehardt:Hopefully CCr CE will still be reasonably priced.
I hope so. I have plans that’s need to move forward
Quoted from jurulz:it's godzilla Pro
He (Jack danger) posted yesterday that something is in 2 weeks….
Well if you see the market, many buy new games just to flip. There are a handful that want the game for playing but, we all know how it goes. I remember when MMr was announced, it sold out. I bought a spot from someone who had 2, then when the game shipped, there were handfuls available to buy just by asking a distrib. Once money is due, some will back out etc. I hope this means they'll price it relative to their structure and not the market. I'd love to keep getting cgc games... actually looking for a MBr le while I wait for CCr....
Quoted from Damonator:CGC hasn’t said how many LEs there will be so no distributor other than PP knows how many they will get.
This ^
We know nothing but get on lists if you’re interested!
When is “expo”?
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Just seems you can never go wrong betting on delays when talkin pinball !
hahhaha, no joke
Quoted from Hop721:Paid $8300 (with shipping) for my AFMr LE and sold it for $8150 nine months later. Thinking I could’ve got quite a bit more. Oh well, I don’t buy them for an investment (but it doesn’t hurt )
Yup, this is how I have to keep thinking. If I bought my pins as an investment.....they wouldn't be fun.
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Quoted from Medic:It was my first time going to the expo this year. I’m surprised CGC only had 3 machines compared to like 20 sterns. Im hoping there will be like 5 CC under a blanket today ready for a reveal and play.
Which games do they have?
Is there a lot of room left in their booth?
Quoted from sizzler747:Will they be live streaming the Chicago Gaming update?
Seems like it may be on the twitch stream of pinball expo
Quoted from Hoteldrummer:Not gunna lie, surprised there isn't a bunch of people over there talking his ear off with questions LOL
I think that area is closed until 4pm so pics are kind of a leak 
Quoted from cait001:$8000 and $9250...
how does that compare to AFM, MM, and MB pricing?
I posted pricing in a different thread, it’s higher and more in line with mmr
Quoted from bankmansam:Is their pricing? I got an email from Sara, It really said nothing. Said game revealed in Chicago and I was on the list, already knew everything on the email. Didn't tell any pricing.
Pricing was announced at the talking event wirh cgc. It’s posted prior in this thread
9250 le and 8000 se
Quoted from Kharris:Just a quick question. Does the remake contain the cactus canyon continued in it?
No. Continued was a fan made software and they did not work a deal out with Eric and licensure
Quoted from epthegeek:They did work out a deal with me; but how much of what I did they choose to use isn’t up to me.
:-O 
Quoted from cooked71:Unlikely. Neither MBr nor AFMr have had a Royal. I think MMr was the exception because the original release had no topper nor widescreen. The Royal was released at the same time as the topper and widescreen and really just but bought MMr up to the same standard as Afmr LE and MBr LE.
But who knows…..these days anything’s possible.
This I agree is the reason. MMr came with none of the enhancements. The LE was just a straight remake w/ color dmd. So a Royal made sense, along with the kits.
WHile I LOVE the cgc toppers and want one for my MBr SE, it would be nice if the "LE" toppers were exclusive and a different topper were available for the non LE's. Like interactive vs non interactive.
as JFH stated before, people will cancel orders when full payments are due as well. MMr sold out in seconds and by the time they were shipping they had stock waiting to be paid for. Lots of people get in but then never poney up the cash when it is time. Now I'm not saying half the units will be available, but if there is a waiting list get on it.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Genuine question here. Were the deposits on previous CGC titles refundable or did that depend on which distributor you ordered from? I'm asking because on CCr, most distributors I'm seeing are requiring a $500 deposit NON refundable. That could potentially cut down on people bailing out.
I honestly don't remember. Well since it is a distro they could apply your 500 deposit to a different game, I know a lot do that, but yes it tries to cut down on flakes, but it always happens. Or we'll just get the flippers.
Quoted from Pinless:Can you explain why there is a “limited” edition? Why not just produce a loaded model and a stripped down version?
I know that’s been the norm in the past, but it seems odd to a newbie that awesome features like an interactive topper are only available to a few lucky buyers.
FOMO sells games. If it was "endless" there is no FOMO.
Quoted from metallik:Yep, can't change that now.
Sell the topper as an upgrade, let the LE owners have the wooden apron exclusive, and next time use the 24 hour order window idea, or make 5k LEs like JJP
I hope it isn't the same topper... If they decide to sell the same topper I would be willing to drop to a SE, the apron and railroad isn't enough to warrant the LE then.
Quoted from arcademojo:FOMO is just a highly over used word. Pushed by flippers, those that are in the lock for getting an LE and those that got lucky to get one in hopes to keep there games value higher then what they paid. Sure there are probably a few people buying because of that but I would guess for every FOMO sale there are a dozen other people wanting one just to get that version of the game.
Eh, there will be people who knew jerk to buy, then won’t pony up when full payment is due, people that want the game and people that want to flip. Always will be. I however want the game and the topper is what I wanted….
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:I'd like to hear some info straight from CGC regarding this possible future release of extra new improved code for a fee. I'm not a fan of that idea. We're already paying near 10k for the machine. Code updates should be gratis.
This isn’t just an “update”. Also true to their word, the game ships with completed code. If Lyman and others create a whole new game and use CCC, why should they not be paid for their work? As a owner of CCr you don’t have to buy the other code, it is true to its CC already. I don’t mind paying for a kit that adds a new game
Quoted from nicoy3k:Can I “downgrade” an SE to the classic display/panel? Hate the look of the wide display
Yes you can/could. Well you could on MBr, afmr and mmr.
Quoted from holminone:Seriously is this game even good? Or just rare and unfinished?
It’s fun on my iPad via TPA. With the code complete on stock ccr I’ll be happy as I’ll rarely get to the end
I would think they feel most LE's will be in peoples game rooms barely getting play, so doubling the warranty for collectors is a nice bump. On route games should show issues faster.
I know my HOU metallica had pf had paint flaking off 2 yrs in with 250 plays....it got replaced but probably because of the distro and known issue.. So I can totally see them covering LE's long since they'll most likely have low plays.
Quoted from Only_Pinball:Wow, thats awesome!
well stranger things at launch was a turd...same with metallica
Quoted from Vino:Yes, should be fine.
Keep the wallet handy for options that may roll out over the next few months too.
Good luck!
I have some old WMS wpc mirror blades I was going to put into MMr...but then "I thought" I heard there was a slight difference in the CGC mirror blades? I haven't test fitted them yet... Maybe I should....
Quoted from NightTrain:Agreed. You can’t list that as an LE exclusive feature and then flip flop on that.
I’d be okay with this ONLY if they then remade toppers for MBr and afmr for sale.
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Quoted from Crumbalimb:Its sad to see how Mike at Automated sells his games over retail.He has some AFM that retailed at 3k less and stern LE games over retail and the list gos on.I get it that the venders make less on the games over flippers and I suppose the venders feel thay should be able to sell at what the market will bring,but I cant buy from him because it rubs me the wrong way.That said,I put my name on a list 2 months before the offical relase and my favorite vender dident have a LE for me either and that tells me im not one of their pefferd custumers so Ill be shoping elsewhere also.
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Quoted from cooked71:Wonder what code Lyman has in store for us? Will it be a complete ground up re-do or just an enhancement on the original? Hoping for a complete re-do.
Will it be like a recent Stern Lyman depth or like Mb/AFM/mm BW Lyman depth?
With eric saying they made a deal to use CCC, I bet he may use some or all of that. Or as inspiration.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:I thought in the announcement at Expo Ryan said the SE will start to ship middle to late November… I could have that wrong but I’m almost sure someone from CGC said that recently.
Soooo two weeks! Nice!
2 weeks later
My question is, is this mirrored BG exclusive to CCR buyers? Will it be available to buy later from CGC/PPS/CPR? is this different than one CPR will/did sell? Is it limited?
Quoted from Jjlp:Dont understand very well... Does i have to Ask to my CGC distro to get that mirrored backglass with my CC LE preorder?
yes. It is a separate purchase through your distributor.
Yes, all the “rgb” can be turned to a single color, ie. Warm white, for anyone that wants the original “90’s” feel
Well couldn't find out if the mirrored BG was exclusive...so I jumped on the list.... if it looks amazing I will then get them for the other cgc's....kind of thinking they will look awesome......mmmm and I think they'll even look better when off!
Quoted from PtownPin:CGC is always just a "couple" weeks behind that typically extends out to 8-12 weeks....the good news is games will eventually ship, but if history means anything than it will be quite a while.
wonder if the new P3/MM game will ship before this hahahah
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Yup, I use the keyless on my games too. Makes it waaaaay faster and easier to crack open games. Downside….. children find them easy to open too
2 months later
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Hmm… all my 3 remakes I can hear the call outs perfect with the stock speakers.
Yeah, stock speakers on the XL displays are the Pyle kind and I can hear but maybe it gets even better? They look like two way wirh a. Mid cone and tweeter :shrug:
3 months later
I freaking forgot to order the mirrored BG day 1 but just ordered...yay! Cannot wait to see it. If it looks good I'll probably do mb and mm
2 months later
Quoted from Zukram:I think the se+ is more than the LE if you added the mirrored backglass option that came out after..
LE owners had to buy the mirrored BG as well......
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Well, we didn't have to,,,, but I did
hahha. me too :-p
Quoted from Zukram:Hah, didnt realize that! But I guess then if you also added the shaker motor, then SE+ plus shaker is more..
HA, wish I didnt have to!
4 weeks later
Quoted from PtownPin:I would get a new distributor if he/she actually sent u a final invoice last November. You should have only had to pay the deposit. The only people who have heard from their distributors are the few that have been invoiced for their LE....CGC is know for making quality games, but is also known for massive delays with zero communication.
Yeah, the last time a distro asked for full payment before games shipped it was a bad time. This is taking a while, but at least we can trust cgc will ship sometime. Just lets me save up for more pinball stuff
1 month later
Man would it be EPIC if cgc put the saloon doors on the LE model , making it a true LE. No complaining on timing for me, I have too much crap to do anywho.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:I don’t think they would do that. I assume they would want to make whatever it is avail to both SE and LE/SE+ buyers.
But you never know!
Richard
ehhhhh everyone complained the le wasn't le enough...... maybe it is just installed in the le but a kit for others :shrug:
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4 months later
Quoted from Pinzap:Consensus on the mirrored backglass? Anyone received it and have a Yay or Nay vote as to whether I should order one or not?
I have mine in... eh. It is neat I guess but not super noticeable? When I look for it I notice the mirror but for the price, meh. However if I do all my other cgc games in mirror BG's, then maybe I could say 100% worth it as it would match.
I really bought the mirrored BG because it was limited to LE owners and thought it would be best if I ever sold it.
Quoted from jfh:It is not limited to LE owners. It is limited to one per owner of any model.
I must of miss read. When I read the initial email it seemed like it was limited to le owners, but maybe I had assumed only le owners were on that email and it is any CCR owner
1 month later
Quoted from sepins:Got My LE but haven't unboxed it yet.
Bought on assumption Lyman code was coming.
Did this turn out to be a rumor???
Lol, gonna be a while. Confirmed coming.
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