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The rumor has become official.
Been a long time coming. But it appears we are close.
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Quoted from dts:If Lyman is on code, it will be hard to resist this one! Shoot, even if he isn't on code, it will be.
No idea who's on code. I'm sure we'll learn more as things get approved and the move into production is in full swing.
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Posted on Facebook. Misspelled, but I made the team.
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team (resized).jpgQuoted from Linolium:So, where does one preorder/buy a standard or premium edition?
http://www.planetarypinball.com/
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Quoted from wolftownjeff:What happened to Ryan?
He's still there. He ran the seminar at the show today. No idea why he didn't make the list.
According to Facebook he's sales manager. But seems so much more.
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Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:I read they plan to make 2 pinballs per year!?
They've been making big changes planning for this. And hiring more people.
Exciting times coming up.
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Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Was this just a reference to there web site?
Yes. Contact them about it. If they'll have a list or something and when you can order.
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Quoted from indypinhead:Any mention that previous purchasers will be able to get matching serial numbers?
I don't think they are doing that anymore. Too much hassle getting a certain number to a certain distributor. Was a nightmare in the past.
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Quoted from RobT:There is definitely a lack of "hype" for CC compared to those two titles when they were announced.
Since those games were announced. There have been a lot of great pins brought to market.
Maybe why CGC is making plans for independent titles in the future. Remake days might be numbered.
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Quoted from arcademojo:That would be a shame if they stop making remakes.
Originally they were talking 10 remakes. Later 6. So with CCR, that leaves 2 more.
So who knows what the future holds.
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Quoted from KozMckPinball:they are leaving ton of money on the table.
Really. I've seen this posted in many threads about many companies about many games.
I'm sure if it were true they'd be killing themselves going after all that money. They ain't stupid.
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Quoted from bobukcat:Just a small point of clarification for anyone reading this in the future, the kit converts and standard MMr into an MMr-Royal.
To further clear things up. It enabled MMR owners a chance to make their games comparable with AFMR and MBR, topper, big display, speakers lights, RGB lighting.
It didn't have every Royal feature like RGB pop bumper lights, and Black Diamond coated trim on front molding, side molding, legs, speaker panel, backbox hinge, lower arch, and coin door.
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Quoted from bobukcat:They re-designed the drawbridge assembly in the last run of MMr to use a direct-drive motor and eliminate the gears - I'd love to see detailed pictures of that just out of curiousity as an MM owner.
I shot a comparison photo just now for anyone interested.
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DSC00559 (resized).JPGQuoted from bobukcat:Does the drawbridge still tend to gap open a little at the top
Yes. Linkage is the same. See right side of motor and right side of gears. Or it would be a pain getting it to sit flat on the playfield. Only the gears gave way to a straight drive motor.
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Quoted from KozMckPinball:Williams went through a design change as well for the original run MM drawbridge/gate assembly. Williams production assembly drawing A-22033 was created after A-21723. I know this because I own those production drawings. I don't think A-21723 ever made it into production in early games but I could be wrong.
According to the manual. Page 2-34 and 2-35 are before July 21, 1997 production. And page 2-36 and 2-37 after July 21, 1997.
Some other parts were changed too in the manual with references to when built.
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Quoted from KingCat78:Was the change in gears/motor done for all MMR's or just the latest run?
I'm not sure when it was implemented.
I've had the spare for tech support for quite sometime. Ryan sent it to me to go with the original one I had that I'd requested way back when.
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Quoted from delt31:but you’re Able to add the royal features to any mmr right?
Not easy. RGB lights in pop bumpers. And metal flake trim, lockdown bar, speaker panel, coin door, etc.
I don't recall if there is a sticker on the apron. And serial number to consider.
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Quoted from John_I:I'd be making small batches of previous games in between runs of new games just to keep the factory going
Shutting down the line. Getting everything in order like story boards, parts, training employees about changes, etc. etc. Might not keep it going.
If it isn't being done, there is probably a good reason.
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Quoted from robotron:c'mon pinball is easy
Drat. Sorry I forgot. Coffee hasn't taken effect yet.
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Quoted from dog:So when do we get to see it?
Pinball expo Oct 27th?
I'm sure they will be at Expo.
The recent seminar said 4 to 6 weeks. So we might have a lot of info and pictures before then.
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Quoted from ClassicHornet:So the License is now approved because PPS are taking names ? surely CGC can now release a lot of info & pics ?
No. PPS like other CGC distributors now know it's coming so making a list of who is interested in the game.
Quoted from bankmansam:Seems kinda weird PPS is the one who is holding up the reveal of Cactus Canyon.
Nobody said they were. Could be Scientific Games. Could be the time it takes for approval goes back and forth and changes made and process starts again.
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Quoted from bankmansam:Clearly Rick kept CGC from showing the game at Southern Fried Game.
No. Other than he may have told them they were still waiting on approval from Scientific Games on stuff.
Quoted from bankmansam:The old company Williams wants nothing to do with pinball.
But the current owner, Scientific Games does. At least as far as the licensing which they own and Rick has an agreement to license stuff. But Scientific Games is still going to approve anything.
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1 week later
Quoted from V8haha:It’s been 20 days i wonder when we will see something! I’m excited to see what they came up with!
According to Ryan's seminar, 4 to 6 weeks. So 8 or 22 more days.
I'm in the hope for soon camp.
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Quoted from hiker2099:Any idea when these will start shipping?
We should have information in a week to three weeks.
Getting close to good news.
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Quoted from Jodester:Only issue I see with CGC is how long it takes to get a game to market.
They are investing in making that faster.
Quoted from Concretehardt:Didn’t CGC say that after Cactus Canyon they’ll be going on to making two games per year
Yes.
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Quoted from hiker2099:Don’t suppose any juicy rumors are out and about?
I can pretty much guarantee PTC or EFL aren't coming up.
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Quoted from sizzler747:Why is it CGC can use the Bally logo but not the Williams logo?
I don't know for sure. But if Williams logo is still used in slot machines, that may be the reason.
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1 week later
Quoted from Bublehead:Why not drop it off somewhere where someone might actually play it and not just use it as a photographic backdrop?
I volunteer my place.
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Quoted from thechakapakuni:I’m coming over with the beer!
Well, that plan went south. No beer here. I'm not licensed for alcohol.
5 shows coming up. First show that coincides with approval and getting a game there. We'll see it.
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Quoted from sizzler747:I thought you only need to be licensed for alcohol if you are selling alcohol to people?
You'd have to be licensed and insured for it. At least where I am.
And since I'm not selling it. Why deal with it ?
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Quoted from Concretehardt:I sure hope he is right, I would love to see the game!
I hope so for everyone's sake.
For me, I'd like a peek under the hood and the system operation menu now that any CGC stuff is in there too and not a separate way to get to it. To learn any new little nuances for tech support.
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Quoted from HomerEBW:will we see this at Expo?
Time will tell. 5 shows coming up. It's bound to be at one of them.
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Quoted from underlord:Rumor is Lyman will also be updating code on PPS list of pinball licenses.
Yes. B/W with larger screen kits and new boards? ColorDmd is great and all, but enhanced rules, deeper code all with high Rez displays.
If he's working for CGC, I seriously doubt he'd be working on anything other than what they build in the coming future.
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Quoted from srmonte:the game was fully designed minus their new topper.
Don't forget the programming for the LCD, and RGB lighting.
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Quoted from flynnibus:My guess is 'expanded' will be an upcharge, to be released later.
I doubt it. They want it ready to rock and roll when released.
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Quoted from Yelobird:Let alone that High Dollar support tech in MN!
That's good. Thank you Quasimodo.
They do want to build the best games and have the best tech support team to go with it.
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Quoted from underlord:Yes. To rob the stagecoaches with so’s we can pay for Lloyds extravagant lifestyle. I for one welcome our new Benefactor and which him long health and a chicken in every pot.
This is getting too good. Thank you !
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Quoted from ClassicHornet:36 new posts, got my hopes up only to find...well, nothing
That's not entirely true.
I found out I'm a billionaire.
I read it on the internet, so Abe Lincoln says it's true.
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Quoted from thekaiser82:TPN latest podcast said they heard the Lyman code would come later after game release and would be a paid upgrade.
Seriously doubt that.
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Quoted from CrazyLevi:My hunch is the release of this thing is at least a year away, unless they plan on doing a bare bones launch without the “new code,” of which they are depending upon as one of the main reasons to buy this thing.
Bad hunch.
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Quoted from Jecco74:Somebody leak something.
Shhhhh................. CGC is working on a new pin.
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Quoted from ZenTron:Will you be able to choose the new vs old code at startup?
I don't believe so. I haven't heard anything like that.
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Quoted from Yelobird:My money is on an Expo unveil with #LTG in the front row taking orders.
LTG won't be there.
I'm sure Ryan and Doug will be there. Maybe Butch too.
See distributors there about orders if they are taking them yet.
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Quoted from chad:Why no show LTG?
Can't afford it. Can't afford to close my business for those days with no income.
And after two virus related closures last year. I see no need to risk closing again this year.
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1 week later
Quoted from transprtr4u:nothing about reveal?
Wasn't known at the time the website went up if it could be shown or not.
A couple years ago at Expo it was Thursday afternoon when they finally got the approval to show it so they quick hauled the games over to Expo.
We'll find out soon enough if it's there or not. Either way Ryan will have a lot to say.
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Quoted from pcprogrammer:Kaneda now saying that the game still hasn't been sent to Williams for final approval?
I wouldn't listen to that. He didn't even get Scientific Games right.
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Quoted from ultimategameroom:What’s the news about scientific games?
They own what is now the Williams we knew.
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Quoted from Davidus56:Doesn’t CGC sell direct like JJP?
No.
Quoted from pcprogrammer:So do you buy straight through their website?
Try - Sara at http://www.planetarypinball.com/ or Chris at https://www.kingpingames.net/
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Quoted from pcprogrammer:Hey LTG,
Would this work or be needed for CCR?https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/products/pinsub-multi-system-kit
Or do CGC games come with external connectors for a sub?
Their website in the link says it does. How it hooks up or anything, I don't know.
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Quoted from pcprogrammer:Anyone see the pin on Wednesday or Thursday please post here! I'm assuming right now we'll see something more during the Friday presentation.
3pm Friday. I hope someone posts the highlights.
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Quoted from thekaiser82:Where at?
Colorado Pinball Pub
6209 South Santa Fe Drive, Littleton, CO 80120
303-598-4391
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Quoted from Goyomex:Haha, I'm in good company if even LTG thought it was Friday! My bad - I wish it was Friday already!
I didn't think it was Friday. There was already two posts pointing out your error.
I was hoping you were one of them time traveler dudes and would come back and tell us.
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Quoted from ClassicHornet:All the authorised distro’s are listed on CGC website as Ryan mentioned
https://www.chicago-gaming.com/distributors/23
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Quoted from Swoods5688:Kind of a lame booth compared to the other manufacturers….what a shame because i love their games and quality.
Maybe their work is concentrated on manufacturing right now rather than drag all the over head monitors and equipment to Expo ?
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Quoted from thechakapakuni:Spotted at Expo, is this a sign LTG ?
That's it. I'm closing right now and heading to Expo. I should get there by 8pm.
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Disclaimer : Just kidding. Doing tech support and listening to Expo Twitch feed.
Quoted from LTG:Maybe their work is concentrated on manufacturing right now rather than drag all the over head monitors and equipment to Expo ?
From the Expo thread. Thanks to cavalier88z24
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Quoted from Medic:I heard you wont be allowed in the vendor area until 4:00pm today
That is to let vendors set up. According to the schedule it opens today at 4pm.
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Quoted from sizzler747:Will they be live streaming the Chicago Gaming update?
In 45 minutes at 3pm CDT.
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Quoted from Triplecdad:Is that a photo of what I think it is?
Yes. Older guy in a Chicago Gaming shirt setting up a pinball machine.
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Quoted from Hoteldrummer:Not gunna lie, surprised there isn't a bunch of people over there talking his ear off with questions LOL
Vendor hall isn't open yet. So any vendors in there are likely setting up their own booth.
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Quoted from Jecco74:Ryan White is late to his own talk….
Did they clear the hall, pull a game in. Then open it again ?
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Quoted from Yelobird:Glass is looking pretty dirty, where is LTG on that one?!?
JJP and AP maybe thought the same thing this morning.
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Quoted from Jecco74:Where is Ryan White? The announcer just asked the room…
Quoted from JSC:No images of topper yet…
Maybe he ran to his room to get it ?
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Quoted from Tallon:The question would be, Does LTG have it on the floor at SS Billiards yet?
Not yet. Hopefully before the end of the year.
I look forward to see how they integrated the CGC menu with the Williams menu. On this game hitting the ENTER button takes you into everything. No more holding down the ESCAPE button for CGC menu.
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Quoted from djsolzs:forgot to mention SE price
He didn't have it or approval yet. He said distributors would have it by the end of the day.
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Quoted from NightTrain:He didn’t even know the price of the game! He had to pull his phone out mid presentation and look it up!
He was checking if it was approved yet to announce pricing. It was for the LE, at that time, not yet for SE. Which is why he said the distrbutors would know by the end of the day.
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Quoted from iceman44:If you get a ton of upvotes then maybe I’m wrong
I got one down vote.
Number of up votes doesn't matter. You are entitled to have your say. No reasons needed. No right or wrong in that.
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Quoted from NightTrain:If that’s the case, that’s even more mind boggling. He knows when expo is. He knows when he’s showing the game. He knows he’s having a seminar on the game. But he doesn't know if he can talk about pricing until he is actually IN the seminar? CGC has been working on this for years. At that exact moment in time, he just happens to get a green light to talk about price?
If he was texted no, he wouldn't have said a price. A few people asked so he checked.
Remember in 2019 when MBR was shown at Expo ? They literally got approval on the Thursday and quick hauled some over to Expo shortly before the hall opened.
Crap happens, he did the best he could.
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Quoted from NightTrain:It’s just absolutely insane.
So is the back and forth through other companies to get approval and if you need to makes changes and get approval again.
Hard to prepare for all that, when you are dependent on others.
They could wait until it's all done. And we get to wait even longer. We finally got to see something.
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Quoted from Mr68:That was a bad hangover presentation if ever I have seen one.
More like very tired from getting the games prepped. Over there. Having to run to get the topper and get it on a game. And what ever system he had and Expo had, didn't interact good or work for the show on the screen.
I've done seminars where everything possible to go wrong does. And you soldier through and do the best you can.
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Quoted from PtownPin:Anyone know if CGC has updated how u install / update code on this game?
Same as three previous games. Micro SD card stuck into slot on board in the head.
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Quoted from daveddd14:Has anyone seen dimensions yet? I need to make some ceiling modifications to fit the topper. Hi eggy with topper is what I need
75 1/2 inches from floor to top of back box ( depending on where your rear levelers are set ) add another 10 inches like their other toppers.
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Quoted from Only_Pinball:Hey LTG when are you thinking you will get your game?
No date yet. Soon I hope so I can go over it inside and out, for any tech support that comes up.
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Quoted from jfh:So that’s 85.5” with the topper.
I just measured the clearance under the soffit in my game room - 85”.
Take the nut off of the leg leveler and screw the leveler all the way in and put the nut inside the leg on top of the leveler thread. That would gain at least an inch.
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Quoted from bigd1979:The figure arms move and body...also there is a new shootout game which is y the windows with figures light up on the topper.... super cool
Shoot the bad guys, don't shoot the good guys.
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Quoted from jfh:Timex. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
I remember those commercials.
About that time a friend was an MP in California. A major road ran through their base.
There was a terrible car accident he rolled on. Car torn apart, bodies scattered about. The driver from the accident and on fire. People were stomping on him to put out the fire.
He couldn't believe it. Got the people back, extinguished the fire. Unfortunately the driver was deceased.
Loading the body onto the ambulance cart, the arm slid out, he noticed a Timex watch on it, took a licking and was still ticking.
He always wondered if Timex would use it in one of their commercials ?
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Quoted from rennervision:Any chance we know what the height of the machine will be with the topper?
75 1/2 inches from floor to top of back box ( depending on where your rear levelers are set ) add another 10 inches like their other toppers.
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Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Is the powder coat on the LE just plain black? I can't tell from the pics I've seen.
From post 1499 by Doug_Duba
The trim on the LE is a matt translucent black powder coat with an opacity of 80% applied over the bare metal. Because it is a translucent, the underlying metal affects the perceived color of the part and gives the finish some depth as a very small amount of the metal’s texture is visible. It looks and feels more like metal than the typical powder coat we are accustomed to seeing. It reads a little bronzy in pictures but it appears dark gray in person. I guess we’ll call it Gun Metal Gray. I’ll try to post a better picture tomorrow.
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Quoted from white1ce:Why are you being such a jerk about it?
Probably upset he never learned to adjust the magic token tube switches on his Safecracker so many years ago.
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Quoted from chuckcasey:Anyone have the link to the reveal CGC did at Expo on Saturday?
Friday at 3pm. I couldn't find the link.
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Quoted from RA77:I don't understand why the difference in warranty between models ?
Besides game differences like toppers, lighting, and trim. To give more value.
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Quoted from pinghetto:Didn't Doug_Duba want to know about these distributors?
Send Doug a PM
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Quoted from mahony:How many bars are these in already?
Only one. Went in today. Playfield 76 in Reno Nevada.
It's a prototype. The only one on the street.
Any other prototypes were at Expo last weekend.
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Quoted from mahony:How many bars are these in already?
I might point out that this is PPS' game. Along with CGC made this possible. PPS is in Nevada so it makes sense they have one being part of the team and for approvals and stuff. Since Scientific Games is in Nevada too.
Any others CGC has for up coming shows they might hit.
I don't even have one for tech support yet.
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Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:Do these prototypes count as an official LE or just have the same qualities but isn’t counted in the 1250
I doubt they are counted as anything. Myself, I refer to such games as factory bastards.
They can be so many different things. This game, that game. Stuff changed. Played at shows. Might have same stuff, different stuff. LE parts, non LE parts.
I think an official LE would be assembled on the line when production starts. Identical to the other 1249 coming down the line.
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Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Being wishy washy on this one when they were very clear on MM
MM was a done deal when we found out.
More involved here. Licensor approval. Who ever is making them, can they make more than 1,250 ? In a timely fashion and do they want to ?
They have a lot to consider before a decision is announced.
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Quoted from alveolus:CGC will have to decide if the revenue earned from the sell of the toppers will be offset by the cost of lost future LE sales to the collectors
At the rate they sold out. Do you think it would be a problem when the next game goes on sale ?
Quoted from Lamberger:That's how CEO's lose their high salary positions.
CGC doesn't have a CEO.
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Quoted from Lamberger:Guess they're just floating around over at CGC.
No, they have an owner. Who is quite astute at running the company which includes video games, making cabinets, and playfields.
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Quoted from Only_Pinball:sales on the next LE. What's the motivation to jump right in?
It will sell out and they won't get one.
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Quoted from P1nhead:Glad CGC has a great supplier for playfields.
CGC is the supplier of their playfields.
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Quoted from P1nhead:So they have their own mill? Amazing!
Churchill Cabinet company made playfields and cabinets for Williams.
They became Chicago Gaming Company. They make playfields and cabinets ( some for other companies ) and video games and other products for home arcades.
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Quoted from Vino:I’m sure these two companies are not making things up as they go, but man does it feel that way.
Maybe every time they try to put out a fire, a new one starts up.
Hard to please everybody.
You have to admire their cajones in sticking it out and keep posting.
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Quoted from cooked71:The best was when they promised the MMR LE buyers would get the colour dots included when done, then went on to charge them for it.
The basic game had colour dots. Eight different colors you could make the dots.
When they programmed the scenes with more colors than a colordmd had, they did charge for the IC kit to install in the game. $299 for original owner, $499 for others.
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Quoted from Polidori:Is it just me or are the pictures of the three CCRs on the CGC features matrix page messed up?
Fine here. Windows 10, Firefox browser.
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Quoted from transprtr4u:like a car crash , just cant look away!
I keep hoping a question I can help with. And long for the day when games start rolling out and the nature of this thread changes to game play and tech questions.
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Quoted from Tommy-dog:There is already a numbered limited edition Cactus Canyon (the original Williams games). They only made like 903 of them and they even had a numbered plate.
The numbered plate didn't ship with the game. They were sent to distributors later. Many distributors or ops threw them on a shelf to be forgotten. So hard to track down the right one for your game.
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Quoted from Hoteldrummer:My plate was also packed in the box and not given to me separately by the distro?
The plaques weren't ready when shipping started. Very possible games made late had the plaques with the game, or distributor stuck it in there.
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Quoted from Pinbaltz:Has there been any info on the electronics in this one?
I believe it's the same as AFMR and MBR. What has changed is the software. You now can access the CGC menu in the regular Diagnostic menu. Hit the enter button and go to town. No more holding escape button for five seconds or more to get into a separate menu.
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Quoted from Dr-pin:What happens if
What happens if we wait until something happens. And then start in ?
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Quoted from JoeHog:Trying to figure out when it could be in production.
In the recent video didn't Ryan say 2023 ?
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Quoted from northvibe:it is the middle of November, aren't the SE's suppose to ship soon?!
I haven't heard anything like that.
I do hope soon.
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Quoted from Only_Pinball:I cant seem to find this....
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/funhouse-20-rudy-s-nightmare
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Quoted from pinballaddicted:My understanding is same head boards (cpu board, driver board, topper board) as AFMr, MBr and MMR Royal, similiar pcb boards under the playfield. Improved software (no more CGC menu. It is now all integrated together with the game code).
maybe LTG could confirm?
That is my understanding.
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Quoted from Deadpool66:Alright so those that got in on AFM AND MMR, How far off were they on shipping those opposed to the advertised date?
Nothing to do with today. When those games were built. Pinball manufacturers weren't going through part shortages, shipping issues, etc. etc.
The last year and a half raised heck with manufacturing.
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Quoted from Deadpool66:I just keep seeing people mentioning Chicago gaming being off on launches.
I understand.
In the past there were many reasons. MMR Stern built the first ones, just got up to speed and moved. Start over. AFMR saw Doug Skor leave for Stern.
And CGC brough it Ryan White, and things have been progressing nicely. At least until last year when everything covid related mucked everything up.
Other manufacturers have had the same issues. Three moved ( including Stern ) you can have people ready, games being built, and then missing something crucial you can't box up and ship without.
This isn't unique to any one company right now.
I just hope down the road things improve for every manufacturer.
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Quoted from AstonEnthusiast:Glad he's at CGC and a total class act.
Yes. He and Doug Duba are gold.
I'm honored to be part of CGC !
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Quoted from jfh:Can you tell us the height of the topper from the base to the apex of the arms raised / swinging so those of us with low ceilings can see if it will work unimpeded?
I believe it's been posted before. Around 10 inches, similar to their other toppers.
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Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Yeah, that's about the 4th promotional spot they've thrown up on FB.
They've been ramping them up.
Maybe we are getting close ?
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Quoted from beltking:Gotta say CGC customer service is amazing. Had an issue with mmr le and did a ticket late in the day… got a call 30 min later.
Sounds like George Bork. Great tech !
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Quoted from MooButt:Does anyone in here know where you can get the Bally stickers to go under the DMD’s of the CGC games?
That is actually on the LCD. Lower part. Manual has instructions to load your own graphic there.
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Quoted from MooButt:Does anyone in here know where you can get the Bally stickers to go under the DMD’s of the CGC games?
Quoted from LTG:That is actually on the LCD. Lower part. Manual has instructions to load your own graphic there.
If you mean like on this AFMR
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afmr (resized).jpgQuoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:My MMr and MBr say “Chicago gaming company” there. Can it be switched to “Williams”?
MBR manual page 1-12 has the instructions.
https://www.chicago-gaming.com/manuals/MB_Manual_Rev_1.pdf
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Quoted from LTG:MBR manual page 1-12 has the instructions.
AFMR manual page 1-12 has the instructions too. The MMR manual doesn't have it, you can change MMR too.
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Quoted from MachineGunGuy:Have you seen a picture of it? I can't seem to find one.
The mirror effect will probably look better in real life than in a picture.
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Quoted from MooButt:I have an AFMr Classic. I need an actual decal like I have on my MBr Classic.
Check with PPS. Contact Sara.
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Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Is the “Williams” logo not pre loaded on the pin?
No. You need to make your own logo to load.
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Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Is the “Williams” logo not pre loaded on the pin?
No. Some logos in this thread you can use to make your own. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/custom-logo-mbr#post-5690552
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Quoted from Gotfrogs:CGC appears to not care about keeping anything limited.
Like AFMR and MBR toppers ?
They care. This time because of the delays maybe they tried too hard to make people happy.
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Quoted from jfh:I may have to get creative too.
Remove leg leveler from leg. Remove nut from leg leveler. Screw leg leveler back into leg. Put nut on leg leveler inside of leg.
Gain an inch or two.
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Quoted from NickBuffaloPinball:Are the rules that Josh and Lyman doing a completely new rule set?
Might be too early to know what they all have up their sleeve.
You will be able to chose which version you want to play. Original, CGC version it ships with. Or Lyman's when installed.
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Quoted from MrSanRamon:I'm not going to lose my key with this!
Ummm................... I don't see a key ?
You already lose it ?
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Disclaimer : Put your extra Monster Bash LE key on it. It will work when you get your CCR.
Quoted from EZ-Rhino:Where did you come by the "Play Pinball Here" Neon?... Would love to get that for my gameroom
Check sign shops in your area to get one made.
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1 week later
Quoted from MrMikeman:- PINSIDE: "Please give us an update on the delay"
- CGC: "Waiting on a few parts that are delayed, production is still going but games cannot leave until complete"
- Pinside: "What's the part? Can you tell when it will arrive? Can it be made in the US? Where is it now? Who makes it? etc etc etc"
- CGC: "We don't know when it will arrive"
Worse scenario is the company making and sending the part tells you when you will get it, and then don't follow through. Leaving the manufacturer looking bad.
These past couple years have probably taught many manufacturers, and not just pinball. To be cautious making promises on other companies word.
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Quoted from Yelobird:I'll bet if we All call #LTG he will tell us!
I can tell you I spoke with Ryan a couple days ago.
About something else.
I didn't ask about CCR or my game for tech support.
I did mention my old internet phone has been replaced with a Google phone. So phones to reach me are back up to four.
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Quoted from Tallon:Ok let me make an offer. I can be over to Lloyds when he opens tomorrow and we can have an adult conversation over some pinball and play some CGC games discussing the new CCr.
I open at noon tomorrow.
Marquess of Queensberry Rules.
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Quoted from Yesh23:Mr. Duba came into this thread 15 times when sales were on the line and now.....crickets.
He tried to inform. Things were taken out of context or clarification was asked on the video seminar. He scrambled and tried to set things right or change things, which created more problems.
So maybe he isn't in a hurry to try that again ?
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Quoted from MrMikeman:Paranoia is running rampant with the older crowd
Thankfully hackers have never gotten into government institutions, power companies, or held any company hostage and gotten paid.
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Quoted from jfh:Wonder if there is anyone at CGC who reads
I do tech support for them, though I'm not physically at CGC.
Good enough ?
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Quoted from EDUB919:Needs to start his own YouTube channel for us
Have one going. Some CGC videos up there, Scrounge around my channel to see them. A new one will be posted showing off the improved diagnostic stuff once I get the game. No more holding down the CGC button, just hit enter and new menu will be there. Other companies videos were removed.
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Quoted from beltking:No new cactus code now.
No announcement yet. No way to know how far Lyman was with it. Josh worked with him, so he may have an idea what more Lyman would do, to guide another programmer.
It may take awhile to sort this out. Then we'll find out.
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Quoted from explosiveegg:Either way, seems like they're trying to ramp up production which is a good sign.
Yes. Looks like planing for the future.
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Quoted from PtownPin:Yea without Lyman not sure that code is worth much....One of the reasons I pulled the trigger on an LE was the hope that Lyman could turn the game into a masterpiece
Until we find out more. No one really knows. Maybe Lyman was done ? Maybe not. Maybe started and if Josh was working with him, then Josh might be able to guide another programmer to finish it.
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Quoted from ifpapinball:Fortunately we worked on stuff closest to the start button first. I don't know a lick of programming so I'm thankful we were as far into the project as we were when this tragedy happened.
We were currently working on the (spoiler alert) two-stage wizard mode for High Noon. Rules are in but that Lyman choreography polish we've all grown to appreciate and love hadn't been meticulously implemented yet.
There's also potentially (Spoiler alert) some hardware features to our update that had not been fully implemented yet.
I'll be seeing this thing through without a doubt. Him and I were so proud of the work we accomplished on this thing and there's no way he wouldn't want to see the community enjoy the update.
Thank you for all of this.
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Quoted from spoke:Ryan, is like a used car salesman, he tells you want he thinks you want to hear, but you can't really believe anything he says, especially after that dreadful presentation at expo.
Please don't be too hard on Ryan. That Expo presentation was on the fly. And he was dead tired from getting the game there and setting it up. They were literally setting it up going into the seminar. And his laptop wouldn't interface with the hotels equipment. He did the best anybody could.
And at the factory he is under a lot of pressure. Especially with suppliers. Not delivering on time. Not the correct parts. Or even disappearing.
There was a time during the shut down he was alone boxing up MMR Royals to ship.
He's only one guy and working miracles in these crazy times.
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Quoted from Gotfrogs:LTG - It is hard not to be hard on him when I was told the announcement/reveal was going to be made at Southern Fried Gaming Expo ( I think his word were that was still the plan up until 2 days before).
I understand.
And at the time that information might have been correct.
Then something they were depending on blew up in their face. Even suppliers that came through in the past are struggling. In every manufacturer in this country.
I'm as anxious as anybody to get one. Especially the new software so I can learn it for tech support. And make a video of it for my Youtube channel.
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Quoted from explosiveegg:Hopefully Dave the Monkey will make a cameo in your video. It's been too long, people are worried about his well being.
You are correct. He is fine and well and needs a little attention.
Thank you for subscribing to my channel.
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Quoted from CoolCatPinball:What's the channel name??
It's my name. Lloyd Olson. Here is one of the monkey videos. Short and stupid. The ones for Chicago Gaming are better. The jjp ones were removed. Click on Youtube to watch it on Youtube, from there you can click on my name to see the others.
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Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:I found this one helpful when changing my controller board:
Glad it helped. This one Rick from PPS requested.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:And this one during my flipper rebuild:
That one was my idea.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Looking forward to more, like “How to instal your extra hardware in your CCr”.
We shall see what is needed. Some I can do myself, some I have help with.
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:Thanks Lloyd!
My pleasure !
Thank you.
2 weeks later
Quoted from Charlemagne1987:So I guess they’re going to locations and distributors now.
I watch the Minnesota pinball Facebook page every day to see when they pop up.
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Quoted from Jkush18:Is that about right?
Except for #2, it is what the original design team envisioned. I don't know who did it. If it was Lyman or not.
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Quoted from flynnibus:Only available via adjustments right?
Yes. Classic or Extended.
Sorry don't know the rest yet.
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Quoted from KingCat78:That looks like a LE (or at least part of it). It has art blades and the mine cart, but the trim color is different though.
I would call it a modded SE. Has some prototype stuff stuck in as they hurried to get me a game for tech support.
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Quoted from NightTrain:Can’t wait to get my LE!
Congratulations. You'll be getting a really great machine !
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Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:What about a topper …
Quoted from Concretehardt:Somebody PLEASE get this man a topper!
They have to make them first. The prototypes weren't what CGC wanted as far as build, quality, and reliability. CGC works hard to make the game the best they can for you.
I'll have a topper soon enough.
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2 months later
Quoted from Doctor6:but is it fair to say there is no plan for additional software coming out, now?
No, not fair.
The game ships with original and also extended. Operator/owner can select, not player.
Josh Sharp was working with Lyman on Lyman's update. It was all mapped out what he wanted to do. So at some point we will see Lyman's update finished and available.
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5 months later
Quoted from transprtr4u:Whats the interest $ for all the deposits that have been given for almost one year....
Nice free money for CGC
Don't you mean distributors ?
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2 weeks later
Quoted from flynnibus:but that project was plagued with exactly the same problems.
Different issues. At the time Stern didn't go through covid. But just when MMR production got going, they moved the factory. Start all over. Reassemble the line. Get new employees, as many of the line workers probably didn't go with. Train everybody. And get the line moving again.
Took a lot of time.
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Quoted from jfh:He can’t or won’t provide proof of his claims, appears to have something against PinballSTAR and/or CGC, is upset that he doesn’t know what’s going on (understandable) and apparently isn’t interested in a rational conversation; he just wants me to stop posting.
If he no longer wants the game he ordered. I hope he lets you help him get his deposit back.
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1 week later
Quoted from Jaytech10:At the expo they didn't shorten the right arm you see it can not go all the way around. The guy told me that they can't get color chips made for the topper. And the topper doesn't sit flat on top of the head which that are trying to fixed as well. I'm glad that I backed out and got something else.
That was a prototype you were seeing.
They have it sorted out.
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2 months later
4 months later
Quoted from sepins:Did this turn out to be a rumor???
From the CCR club thread :
You mean the Lyman update ? Yes. Josh posted this over a month ago :
"Since the unfortunate passing of Lyman the only work that has been done the last 15 months was the putting together of the "to-do list" of what's left to finish the upgrade. The number of people that have been working full time on design, software, graphics and audio has been . . . ZERO.
Everyone on the CGC side was already set with their 2022 plans (Pulp Fiction development among other things). It was on Lyman and myself to pull this through in 2022 and that of course didn't happen.
Now that CGC is through most of that other 2022 work, I'm hopeful that there will be some serious progress made during this year because resources should finally be available.
For the record, there is already a ton of upgraded content that is in the game. IMO there's already enough upgraded content that I feel confident we could ship what's in my game today and people would absolutely enjoy it.
However, I'm not interested in doing 'good enough' on this project, especially regarding the circumstances surrounding it. I owe it Lyman and I owe it to myself to finish off the totality of our complete vision for the game, and that's what I intend on doing regardless of how long it takes to get it done. "
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