I asked for an LE Tuesday from distro and got one

At this point, if I had a pinball company, I'd pull shenanigans like this with toppers, increased LE numbers, and more LE styles just to sit back and watch Pinside melt down...knowing most people will eventually quit their bitching and just buy it anyway.

Contacted Sara first thing Monday, but haven't heard back, guessing I missed out on the LE. Anyone know if she's made it through the full list yet?

Sadly I still can’t find a CCR LE for MSRP.

I emailed like a week ago and never heard anything. Awesome customer service over there.

I had never purchased a pin from PPS before, but in this new world where everything is always selling out I decided "a pinball in the hand was worth two in the bush." That's why I asked Sara to put me on her LE list.

maybe try phoning again... I am sure they are not responding and gain business... the phones and emails are I am sure piling up, if you didn't get thru in the morning try in the afternoon. and repeat till you get an answer. I am in retail and know when things are rocking you cannot get to everyone, you try but you just cant. it is best for the consumer to keep trying till they get in.

I did contact Sara about a week ago too. Here is the reply I got:

Hi,

I added you to our waiting list for CCR LE, thanks!

I still don't know what we have available, but I have you down on the wait list and I will get back to you by the end of next week thank you so much!

Sara

They are not anymore?!?

Ooooooo! It just hit me.... how about a Beanie Baby themed pinball machine?

It's value would = collectibles x collectibles. $$$

(But will the LE have an exclusive topper???)

Borderline worthless as of a few years ago!

Sara has actually been pretty incredible to work with during this great CCrLE "race" - great communication and follow-through. Got to imagine it's been crazy on their end as well.

Well I would say never getting a response is not incredible customer service.

Certain beanie babies are still $$$

I have just what you are looking for. It is towards the end of the video at the 1:55 mark, but it shows the actual gameplay of the topper. It is pretty cool. It reminds me of the video mode in Indiana Jones Pinball Adventure to get the medallion, except it is with bad guys or good guys that light up randomly on the topper in the windows. Just like what was mentioned in this thread, move the star yellow LED lights with the left or right flipper buttons to line up with a target and press both flipper buttons to shoot the enemy. Watch out for the innocent people in the windows and don't shoot them.

The best part about the topper is the movement of the arms having the guns being drawn and pointed at the player from Big Bart during a Quickdraw. The way it jolts back when the bad guy drop target gets hit will never get old. It adds so much to the game. I witnessed Bionic Bart mode, but I was playing it and didn't video it. It is a great mode that I wish I paid more close attention to the rules. But it was over before I could draw out my phone.

If you are close to Reno we have a launch party scheduled on November 9 from 7-9 PM at Playfield '76 if you want to have a chance to play the prototype with the first at a public location aside from Expo and MGC. It is stunning in person!

Kudos to Ted for playing the game getting to the topper shootout mode while I was filming the video.

Around 1:55 of the video is the shootout ...

Great job Mark!

Ill try to make the launch party if i can.

Playfield 76 is really a great place!

I did the same. Never heard back from her, though. Guessing that meant I didn't get on the list in time. That is fine but a follow up email letting me know what happened would be nice.

So the topper is incredible? That’s the signature calling card of CGC

It’s phenomenal.

There will be plenty games available at 1,250 and this price. Have some patience

Look at MBrLE

Don’t get caught up in the FOMO. Are AFM, MM and MB better games?

Well……..what’s Lyman doing.

Think about some FOBI.

Fear of Being included.

Might work out better

Very similar story for me too. Crickets on my emails and phone calls. Meanwhile we get to read everyone bitching about a topper sale tarnishing their LE purchase.... I just wanted a matching LE with my other game.

I never understood pinball company's making only a limited amount of games. They put in all that design work and turn people away from buying there machine. There should be only 2 model a deluxe with all the bells and whistles and a strip down version. And make as many as they can sell. I guess they do not want my 9000. By limiting all they are doing is having people make money off of them by selling it higher in the aftermarket. They probably could of easily sold 2000 LEs

It's dumb when other companies do it, but it's particularly irritating with CGC as some of the LE features are less trim and more substantial features. I think CGC has become my least favorite pinball company based on that alone. With Stern or JJP you can always get a Premium/"LE" and feel like you're not really missing much from the actual limited tier model. With CGC you definitely miss out and it's a completely unnecessary sleight to customers who want to give them their money.

Prediction: CCr top ten Pinside

Do you remember the Jurassic Park Goat mode debacle from Stern? You can no longer buy that if you want to and they coded a whole game mode around it. It wasn't just a video mode like game that CGC did, it was a fully featured and fun pinball mode that requires a specific topper to play it.

Sterns LEs feel more like cash grabs. Look at their latest LE. They powder coat some purple legs, threw a 40th anniversary sticker on it and are charging $25k! Also, JJP has exclusive content in some of their collectors editions games. Look at Guns and Roses as an example. Those companies are doing way worse things with limited editions than a silly topper mini game.

Also CGC hasn't even decided how they're handling the topper situation yet. They could still produce it for everyone to buy and enjoy.

Only after the Lyman code goes live.

I think they should redesign the topper for the SE crowd. No one can say anything negative then.

CCr is a grail game for me.

Ive been wanting one for 20 years.

Im so excited about this game!

Topper or no topper, its an awesome game.

Pinsider negativity, sour grapes and topper nonsense, cant diminish the fact that this may be the best game ever from CGC.

Whether you get the LE or the SE or a standard, you cant possibly be disappointed.

I cant wait to see what the modders do for this title, its going to be epic!

Saloon doors anyone? Lol

Hopefully we can get a close up pic from underneath the new CCr PF to see if the PF has been routed out for saloon doors

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Pretty cool, original prototype from years ago, just stumbled across this vid from 10 years back.

Yes we did

The preprder for the First batch of speakergrills will close tomorrow

Stainless Steel. 59,- shipped

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Played this for the first time ever at Midwest Gaming Classic yesterday. How'd I do, for not knowing what I was doing?

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Please tell us your impression in 300 words or less

Yes! Do tell! What are your thoughts!?

Wasn't bad at all IMHO!
Seemed well built as expected. Display and lights were clear enough about objectives that I could get the general idea even in a noisy show.

Apron design was really nice in person. Shots flowed well - I bricked a few but I think that was all me. Updated display is gorgeous.

I wasn't well prepared to weigh the good and bad - I was a bit tired and rushed - but I suppose if anything stood out, it would be that the autolauncher was a bit weak - but that's probably specific to the machine I played.

Just buy it. Toy story probably wont be released for at least 6 months. Then they will have to start making them and lots of people want that title as well so it might be another 3-6 months until it arrives. You can always sell CC when the time comes to purchase Toy Story.

I had a similar decision. Toy Story has been on my wish list for a long time but I really like CC and can realistically only afford one without selling others.

Decided to get Cactus Canyon now because I know what the game is, the playfield is silk screened and CGC has a rep for great customer support. When I contrast that with having no idea on what Toy Story will be, JJPs refusal to address their playfield issues, rapid decline in customer support and gutting the basic warranty it was a far easier decision for me than it should have been.

However, if unless you are convinced CCr is the choice for you why not wait and see? SEs should be available for quite a while and if Toy Story is announced next year you can see and play both before you decide.

This is why I will never buy another JJP. They don’t care about their build quality or their customers anymore. My pinball money is going to companies that do care about those things!

There are literally huge gaping holes in the PF at the doors. I'm not sure such a rough Whitewood is a very good indicator of what a tested and polished mech would need to be installed retroactively.

Warren Buffett has always said that one of greatest assets of a company and one of the highest measures of success is reputation.

"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently."

"Lose money for the firm, and I will be understanding. Lose a shred of reputation for the firm, and I will be ruthless."

Jack and Doug have taken very different approaches with their company’s reputations.

Absolutely! Well said.

We should be hearing something soon. Doug_Duba said he would let us know by today.

Since a classic model isn't happening. Is it possible to mod a SE to have the speakers/screen/ bezel in the classic style?

Yes they are selling the special edition plus with the topper for $9250

Agreed. Change the color of the cowboys hat and guns and call it good.

After discussions with our dealers and customers, we have decided to add an option to purchase CCr-SE with the topper. The CCr-SE+ will include all the features of CCr-SE plus the Wild West Shootout Topper. CCr-SE+ will retail for $9,250. Dealers will be initially allocated an equal number of this new model as their LE allocation. There are currently no plans to offer the topper separately.

CCr-LE will continue to have a number of exclusive features including: the Gunslinger Wooded Lower Arch, Mine Cart, Train Tracks, Custom Art Blades, Gun Metal Grey Trim, LE Medallion, Shaker Motor and Extended Warranty.

We feel the topper is an important part of the game and want to provide CCr-SE owners an option to enjoy this experience.

We could have shipped CCr nearly a year ago but took the time to make this game to the best of our collective abilities. Hopefully this effort is apparent.

Any buyers that no longer feel CCr-LE is an exceptional value or feels they will derive less joy from the game due to others having access to the topper will be allowed to cancel their orders with dealers and receive a full refund of deposit money.

Great decision. Make the topper an integral part of the game.

Only downside I can see is that some SE buyers may not want to spend $1250 on the topper.

[Edit: ok, I guess the topper purchase is optional for SE buyers but can’t be purchased by itself. Not quite as good but overall a good balance by CGC.]

Smart move ...

A decision you must have almost agonised over, but on balance, I think the right one, for what it's worth BTW the game looks great.