Not so sure about that.

Got on the interest list back in August. Hope I wasn’t too late. Was expecting CGC to be doing it up right, seems as if I made the right call (but perhaps too late). We’ll see if I get The call when orders open up.

You guys thinking the top of the line will be anything less than $11k are dreaming!

These guys know which way the wind is blowing.

Looking forward to seeing what they come up with

Thanks for that. Not expecting 2 years ago pricing but hoping it’s still within my affordability range.

Winds that blow like that usually are called tornadoes.

$15K by Christmas!

Well, let’s wait and see I guess. I’m not blowing 2 years of pin funds on 1 title.

I’m either all in or out of the nib scene, which may lead to my early demise.

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Unless he’s not right. Speculation can be fun kids!

Yeah I for one am hoping that it would be no more then 9k which would still be 1k over their last LE monster bash; of course JJP the worst pinball manufacturer around keeps raising thier prices on their games with thier shit playfields so who knows

Not having room is the key. I don’t have any more room, meaning I only had room for 3 and I have 5 plus one still sitting in a box. So not having any room is a real safety net on going broke. I’m thinking a Virtual Pin is in my future to satisfy any retro itch I might have. New pins have been easy, they all stink. Now that CCr has Lyman tho, it’s gonna be tough

I don’t see them leaving money on the table - I am guessing the LE will be between $10k-$11k. CGC just watched Stern sell 1000 GZLEs at $10.5k in seconds.

I hate it, but it is what it is.

....wrong thread .......

Will be one of those situations where a collector pays a multiple of 1000 dollars for basically the interactive topper. If CGC is consistent with its approach to MBr, the differences tween SE and LE where topper, trim color, shaker, mirror blades and the plasma disk. The trim on the lock down bar also has the cool engraved plate. So one could upgrade their SE to an LE except the topper and the Topper and the lock down plate.

The big draw for me on this title is the enhanced code. A lot one could do with the play field above the original code. will be interesting to see how this turns out price wise.

My situation verbatim. Out of room, but maybe my sis in law in our in law downstairs can move one in. Other than that I’m out of options and HWN will be already budgeted in. CCr may be my last for awhile.

Stern’s and JJP have been off my radar for years now. You’re a better gambler than I am buying GNR.

You talking about the GZLE’s flooding the market? Those? Huh.

Folks’re finding out this ain’t the stock market.

Well IMO there’s a lackluster set of releases, so that also helps. When they rainbowed out the art on Godzilla, that made us very easy to pass and play it on location. This game is gonna be tuff to pass if Lyman codes it. I’m also kinda holding out on the Pulp Fiction rumors. I might have to ditch the sofa or my bed for that

I respect your priorities. Damned good plan. My bathroom is overrated anyways. I’ve got a yard and trees.

I hope you are right. You make a lot of sense but the market doesn’t and this game with a topper thrown on it is on its way to being sold out regardless.

Guys - I get it like everyone else - I get sick seeing these escalating prices

BUT we are way beyond just a hobbyist click - this is real business now and it’s “What The Market Will Bear Territory” and reading the forums there are plenty of folks willing to pay the prices....if I were running these companies I would do the same thing and so would you

Lyman and josh ain’t working for free.

The market is pretty nuts.

They’ll charge what they think they can get way with.

This isn’t being pitched as a “remake” competing with decades-old machines people have played thousands of times already, but much closer to a brand new “A-Title,” an appetizer to their forthcoming original machines which will compete with stern and company.

they arent in business to do anybody any favors.

Expect the worst.

CCR Classic Edition = $8,000
CCR Special Edition = $9,500
CCR Limited Edition = $11,000

Just a guess...

Give or take 500 bucks I think you nailed it.

Stern had to pay for a whole new package with there game. If cgc raises prices to high it will hurt them. They don't have to pay artists and designers. I know they will pay Josh and Lyman to make it better bit the game was fully designed minus their new topper. I have a game on order but if pricing if horrific I will pass.

Don't forget the programming for the LCD, and RGB lighting.

LTG : )

Don’t forget that if they think people will pay $12k for a top of the line 90s redo with new Lyman software and new mechs and whatever the hell else, they will.

BOM or who they had to pay and how much has little to do with it.

Pretty sure there is a ton of dev and work in these games even though a remake. They built a whole new architecture for CCr, new animations, new code, and updated features. Plus, manufacturing costs are going to be the same as any other pins. If everyone else is raising prices, chances are manufacturing costs are higher. No way pricing will be the same as last remake. Just a question of how much higher.

Pricing hitting ‘only the rich’ territory? Not a dig at ya, just wondering. If you’re correct then I’m just some one else dropping out.

Last I checked you, me and others ARE the people who will pay? Speaking for myself, I’m in the 1% category of income earners but I cannot continue to support price hikes, nib OR secondary market. I have other hobbies and life dedications to take up time. I can’t be alone in my thinking?

Inflation, luxury item, drives money made to money spent. Anyone have a spreadsheet for pin prices from recently to today?

My guess is 'expanded' will be an upcharge, to be released later.

Lyman is many things but quick is not one of them.

I suppose you are right, or this release could be years away.

Upcharge coming later? Maybe. But they still know what people are paying for and there’s still gonna be a sizeable Lyman upcharge just to get in the game.

Uhg. I hope not.

And I will bet Planetary and Williams are not offering a free license out of the goodness of their heart. Let alone that High Dollar support tech in MN! I hear he drives a Lamborghini with under carriage Pinstadium lighting! Lol. 10k LE is my solid bet.

I doubt it. They want it ready to rock and roll when released.

LTG : )

That's good. Thank you Quasimodo.

They do want to build the best games and have the best tech support team to go with it.

LTG : )

Ok yep I'm convinced that the tech work makes the game land towards 12k I mean it's not like they have the hardware and massive engineering figured out for their now 4th game. Keep helping the manufacturers raise prices people because in this great society that I keep hearing about has record inflation but I just can't put my finger on why

That is a Fact on both points! It’s not like they simply turned the conveyor back on games just continued where they ended. They likely had to re-engineer and source every part from paper. Looking forward to this title.

So does this mean we’re gonna get real colt 45’s?

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Yes. To rob the stagecoaches with so’s we can pay for Lloyds extravagant lifestyle. I for one welcome our new Benefactor and which him long health and a chicken in every pot.

This is getting too good. Thank you !

LTG : )

According to banking rates, in New Hampshire the minimum you need to make to be in the top 1%: $486,812 per annum...

Was just curious.

Robert

I work in Mass. Live in NH.
$486k gross. States both take their cut. Trust me.

Almost a third of the original production sold at close out under $2k. Granted, many bought multiples and sold extra NIBs for stupid money years later. But you still aren’t talking a majority above $9k-$10k.

Yeah we’re on to you. LTG is just here giving out free pinball advice for the fun of it because being a Billionaire gets boring.

Meanwhile LTG…

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36 new posts, got my hopes up only to find...well, nothing

That's not entirely true.

I found out I'm a billionaire.

I read it on the internet, so Abe Lincoln says it's true.

LTG : )

What you say is true but let’s look at this a little differently.

I’m betting most people in this forum CAN AFFORD to buy higher priced pins ( ie.$11K) .....the catch is most of us reach a point where you cannot rationalize spending so much on a leisure game even if you CAN FINANCIALLY AFFORD IT

Another thing I was taught a long time ago is that COST and PRICE are NOT Necessarily related. Just because a remake “may” be cheaper to develop does NOT mean the PRICE will be lower as demand and price elasticity become major factors

I wish it were not so - but brace yourself for sticker shock in today’s crazy environment

CGC would be crazy not to go the doctor on this LE. And they’ll put just enough bling and window dressing in it that all you LE buyers will think it’s good value.

Just the thought of the CGC LE treatment and Lyman has got me tempted…… and I don’t even like the game.

I agree with all this - although you may need to explain to our friends overseas what “go for the doctor” means!