My guess is that they will do something like this - a "special edition" with the bigger screen, and an "extra-special edition" with a topper / powder-coat.

Personally, I really dislike the powder-coating, and am only so-so on the toppers (but I love the bigger screen) - so a "special edition" is fine by me.

I could see them doing an SE+ - basically a Royal without the powder.

I don't think they ever came out and said that, which is why Royals were never numbered. Its coming although they may call it something else

You've been given the link to CGC's statement that they would NOT make more Royals in the MMr thread. Yet you keep pushing your fake news on different threads. You can speculate all you want but stop pretending you haven't heard about no more Royals.

The post is here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mmr-owners-club-all-things-mmr-discussed/page/87#post-5273926

The highlight is:
"We will be building 500 total Medieval Madness machines during this time. A limited amount of these will be manufactured as the Royal Edition with all the features installed at the factory. We will not be manufacturing the Royal Edition again. We are treating it like all of our Limited Edition games and only manufacturing them the one time."

Yes we KNOW you were pissed as an original LE buyer/owner that they were coming out with another better "limited" version. You've made your feelings known many times on that other thread. The Royals aren't numbered to appease folks like you that feel cheated somehow.

Personally I expect them to only make SEs in the next run and no classics. Whether they offer the topper or not remains to be seen. Other than the topper the only real difference between the SE and Royal is the shaker, powdercoat, and warranty anyway. They're all the same lol.

My Royal leaves tomorrow to make room for CCr (and a P3). MM was a grail game for me and I enjoyed it thoroughly during the 2 years I had it but I beat it fairly regularly now and it's just time to go.

Listen to Ryan’s presentation from SFGE from August. He explicitly says no more Royals.

I have heard the same.

Maybe no more royals but I would be surprised if the upgrades weren’t offered - large screen , topper , shaker , etc …

are they making more Royal Editions ?

Thought I was looking at the wrong thread....

For some reason I'm going to go down and play my Royal.

CGC has already said that more of the add on kits are on the way.

You're smoking crack if you don't think CGC is going to sell another MMR without the topper, shaker, large screen, and RGB lighting....its by far their most profitable model with zero R & D costs....look what they did with CCRLE...they saw the demand for the topper and after launch decided to sell it to everyone who wanted it (never done that before). My point is CGC will now change course based on demand (good business), and the loaded MMR is clearly that. For the record I don't feel cheated at all as CGC did a great job of offering the upgrades to original LE owners.

BTW Large screen and RGB is already part of the SE package. As I posted above the SE and RE are the same except for the topper (which is offered separately anyway), the powdercoat which anyone can do, and the warranty. Totally expect to see an SE+ offered on the next run. Just like CCr.

This will in practice be the same thing as the RE, except for the RGB pops (easy mod), mirrored blades (don't like them anyhow), and powdercoat (prefer the original metal). They have already been pretty clear that this is intended to be like the SE+ version of CCr: larger screen, topper, etc. They may or may not bundle the topper or sell it separately from what I have been told. I don't understand the prestige factor for RE owners. It is the same game, was sold for $10k because of the upgrades, and many took a pass as the topper and screen upgrade were available for the other models. Honestly, I feel like I will be getting more of what I want in MM than the RE option, plus some of my own mods, dragon, trolls, Merlin, archers with interactive lighting. I'm in for my last round.

I have the mirror blades on 2 games (Royal and SW Prem) and I really like the look. Brightens the game without add-on spots or pinstadiums. It depends on the game for me. Wouldn't want it on my other games.

Not sure about the "prestige" thing. I only bought the Royal because it had the extra stuff I would've bought anyway. Didn't cost more than getting the game then the add-ons. Win-win for me. Oh and I liked the free powdercoat on it although it looks plain black in most settings. You need bright lighting to see the sparkle effect.

Have a MMR Royal- not sure about this prestige factor either but IMO it’s a beautiful package. In my games room, the black speckled powdercoat looks really sharp.
All my pin friends & fam have commented how amazing the game plays & looks. Game is likely bolted forever.
I think all MMR options look pretty great.
In the end, I do think the CCR LE may rival my Royal. Can’t wait to take eventual delivery!

You guys may be different on that and just love the product. Pinball is a bit out of control right now. It is reassuring that CGC is selling CCr at a reasonable price in crazy times, and with better supply chains, maybe this will trickle through the system eventually.

I was told no more Royals when I spoke with CGC 6 months ago. If, and that’s an IF, they remake MMr it will be long after CCr are long gone and they were speculating that even after the next original theme run. 2023 is ‘most likely’ not a run date anymore, more like mid to late 2024.

My opinion on these remarks, they’re hoping to get past the MM remakes and into future titles. I dunno, maybe it’s run it’s course with them? Been on their lineup off and on since 2014.

I called CGC earlier this week to ask about something else and was told they are extremely busy but plan to squeeze a run of MMrs in next year. Back to CCr though, hope we see some continued code in the upgrade!

Anyone have an update from PPS on the mirrored backglass?

I thought they were supposed to be shipping by now. I asked Sara who told me to ask Rick but he hasn’t responded to my emails.

My distributor isn't even taking orders yet...

Interesting. Most did their initial orders in December.

December; Ordered and paid in full.

Ditto,
I have not seen the new head back board and led arrangement. Hoping that it is designed and lit to make the backglass pop.
I must say it will be hard to top some of the incredible mirror BG's that Stern have released of late.
Hope PPS and CGC nail it.

Brian Allen said he took location and type of lighting under consideration when doing the alternate backglass acrylic/translite.

PPS doesn’t really have to do the same because the flashers/lighting are already in place for the original translite design.

Ordered beginning of November and it’s been a long wait excited for the invoice to show up.

You know we’re talking about the mirrored backglass, not the game, right?

Been a long day

I just placed an order for an SE today and I'm pretty stoked

More like a long 6 month wait for that “shipping next month” invoice, am I right?

Nice! You should be!

I dunno about Brian Allen.

I was referring to the PPS mirrored back glass that was offered for CCr.
For this premium product I believe that it will require some very well thought out, quality, balanced and controlled back board hardware lighting from CGC.
As incandescent lighting is a no go in these times, experience has shown that it can be challenging to find backglass LED backlighting to highlight the originsl CC work of art.
I'm confident both parties will not disappoint.
We will see soon

CGC didn’t make any changes to the lighting specifically for the backglass (which is not their product). The colors on the remake translite were tweaked to take into account the difference between the original incandescent lighting and modern LEDs. I’m not an artist so I don’t know the proper term but the new version is subtlety richer/deeper and looks fantastic in person.

I hope that PPS did the same for the backglass rather than just use the original palette.

Congrats! Please register your great decision in the Club thread poll.

Also , looking at it more , that topper is awesome. Will there be an opportunity to buy them individually if you didn't order the SE+?

No you only get the topper if you purchase the SE+

Or the LE...

There’s a pretty good FAQ in the first post of the owners thread

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cactus-canyon-remake-club-new-sheriffs-in-town

Someone should make a detailed FAQ list ..... oh but wait.....

You are correct on the upside at least the snow will be gone when it arrives.

Lol

Best gameplay video I’ve seen yet

Would have been good if they got the video angle right, everyone taking footage of gameplay needs to take a look at how tatty Addams does it, actually AP got it right.

It’s Hard not to just jump right on an order I love the theme and it looks like they completed the code well. I don’t really like the RGB look.Can I set the LEDs to a more natural color tone? I do like the pink when it’s in the save the damsel hurry up, be nice to pick and choose in the options.

"Only White" GI is one of the options in the adjustments menu.

I thought I would hate the RGB as it looked horrible in every video I saw. In person it was a totally different experience and it didn’t bother me at all. I didn’t think it was overused/overdone either.

Yeah, it look great in person (I also think it looks great in video but maybe I’m just used to it).

Richard

This is actually really good to hear, gonna have to track one down.

Look what showed up today!

24AE700B-7DA3-496E-8AF2-2D407A27427B (resized).jpeg