I think it will be. At local barcades I see a lot of younger people (in their 20s) playing pinball. My wife’s two sons are in their late 20s and they love pinball. They’re each looking to buy their first game but can’t afford the prices.

Nah not new These Operator deals

But it was around 2004

Wonder if we will still be waiting the CCR release ...

I couldn’t afford full price NIB pins back then, but around ‘97 some of my prices paid were:

$100 Banzai Run (diamondplated)
$400 Funhouse
$562 Discs of Tron Environmental
$650 TZ
$750 TAF
$1900 CV NIB on closeout
$2300 MM (these were never very cheap b/c they earned so well)

That was still pretty good back then. I bought my MM NIB for $3855 (that was full retail for a non-operator at the time).

Banzai Run for $100? That was a smokin’ deal …

I thought prices seemed to be getting high 3-4 years ago and was hoping for a cool-down before I purchased. Ha!

These price threads are tough to read. Pick-up trucks didn’t cost $75,000 20 years ago either. I saw a $2750 bride of pinbot in the marketplace that looked like it got pulled out of wet basement after 10 years that was sale pending immediately. Blows my mind. Good condition versions of that game were under 1000 when I started and they were for sale all the time. Your best deal nowadays is NIB. Never thought we’d get there.

‘Patience’ is your discount now. If you can put your order in and wait patiently, it’s kind of like a coupon. Otherwise you end up paying a premium to have it ‘now’. If you think about it, you can pretty much put your name on the list for any game you want now and then you’ve got a year to sell one or save up for when the invoice arrives

Hope no manufacture figures out to add money as they don't guarantee a fixed price at purchase ...
Coupon expired fast...

Umm, what?

The Stern trick ... delay the builds and keeping passing the cost to the customer ...

I thought you were trying to say that.

However for those that have an invoice and have paid a deposit, changing the price after the fact would seem to be a pretty obvious breech of contract.

That is exactly what Stern did to me with Elvira. I said F them, canceled the order and thankfully got lucky and found a really nice one for a great deal.

Stern distributors are doing that though. They say they can apparently because the game has not left the factory and you didn't receive the game yet.

Stern is doing that to their distributors. I'm sure there are shady distributors out there but most of this is Stern.

Stern has their distributors presell games than will delay it into oblivion and keep raising the prices.

EHoH is a prime example of that. They've been taking preorders since early 2021 telling people they'd make them in December of 2021 and sell them at a cost of $8500 msrp. Stern then decided to run the 40th Editions for an absurd cost instead of the already ordered premiums causing a delay in those premiums.

Stern clearly had the parts and capacity to make the premiums they've sold, they just decided to do the cash grab approach by adding some powder coating and selling the game for $25k...

Now they're slated for Dec of 2022 with an almost $11k msrp. And we all know they'll probably push that date back again and raise the prices again...

The distributors want to give you the game for the agreed upon price. Stern is making that impossible.

This is why I'm hoping for a smooth experience buying from CGC as I feel pretty betrayed by Stern. I was one of those guys with a preorder on EHoH.

Wow, never heard of that. Crazy. That won’t happen with CGC. The LE price was low due to the fact that they wanted to give us a great value. SE a great price as well!
Good game going on here!

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Wow.. I came here looking for an update on CCr...

CGC doesn’t believe in updates.

And since your contract is with the distributor and not Stern, the distributor should be on the hook for the price.

The thread was on fire so I though some one got a game..

We have 3 CGC remakes and they are great. It will be worth the wait. I am sure that your distro can give you an approximate delivery date.

Going to be reaching out to you for the difference if they do ...
Never say never cost of everything is inflated...
Do you really think they wouldn't do this if the bottom line suffers ?
Shallow thinking that they are building these as a great value to the customer...
Please take no offence...
Business need to make money, they are not building these out of the kindness of their hearts...
The longer the delay the greater the possiblity

You have not met the Duba family. You can be as negative as you like but they are here for a win win situation. They are genuinely good people.

Back out of your game if you are not happy. I am sure there are plenty of people that will take your spot.

And I think they showed that when the pricing was announced.
The games could’ve easily been priced higher and it wouldn’t have impacted sales much, if at all.

I’ve asked many times. No estimate on delivery. I get asked for ETA’s and lead times on products every day. Why are you white knighting for CGC as they keep us in the dark?

Anytime I hear “supply line issues”…

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Perhaps ... but they have bills to pay as well ... don't think they do this for free ...
In for the long run but sure there will be more ...

Stop complaining then. Complaining will not make the game come any quicker.. It will get there when it gets there.

If you are not happy, back out of your order. I am sure as soon as they know, they will let you know. Game was only announced a few months ago. How long did MMr take?

It is pinball. if you have not learnt to be patient, now may be the time. CGC are genuine and your game is coming.

I’ve got a $1,000 deposit down on both CCrLE and Alien LV with two holes in my lineup for both of them to fill. You want to wait forever for a machine then call up Cointaker and get on the list for a Big Lebowski or Alien. You’ll see real quick what a strokefest it is to buy a game these days. Apparently there is a container full of Alien machines sitting in a port somewhere on the east coast that for some mysterious reason nobody can access.

Want to avoid BS delays from overseas shipping…buy an American Made machine. I personally don’t care how long any machine takes to acquire as long as the final product quality was worth it. Anyone complaining about CGC in general has probably not owned one of their games. CGC hasn’t given you an update??? Where was that clause in your purchase agreement?? Get your money back and or find a new hobby.

Men, 50+ new posts and only whining...

End of discussion, anyone asking for an update must cancel their order and quit the hobby because that clause doesn’t exist in a non-existent purchase contract…

I've got a feeling we are gonna hear something pretty soon. And usually I'm spot on.
They are ready to ship maybe.

Here’s a fun activity for everyone to try while we all wait for our machines.

Search local dive bars as far and wide as you can for the most neglected, improperly set up, dirty, dimly lit, weak flippered, boat anchor of a machine. Play it as much as you can stomach even with it’s shallow code, horrible callouts, most importantly no topper of course. Pretend this is your only machine, all you have to look forward to in your entire life of pinball.

Appreciate what you have or soon will. I’m not sure where the entitled mentality comes from. Take a vacation to an underprivileged country…when are they getting their LE’s in Zimbabwe? I demand an update!!!! Psssshhh.

That would be cool!

Yes, and sooner than you think.

You first. Let us know how you make out.

It is a clear breach of contract, but I believe your remedy would be to cancel the order and receive a full refund. You could sue for specific performance on the contract but that is a weak legal argument as how were you injured? Your partial payment could be repaid and you are made whole . . . A better legal argument might occur if you paid the full amount and THEN the price was raised. Then your damage would be the difference/increased price, but again, a full refund would make you whole.

I can speak for my Elvira order from Stern where they raised the price from 8K to 8.5K after I had the deposit down. They offered to cancel and get my deposit back so there really isn't any legal reason to complain. I am not aware of anyone that was not given the option to back out of the deal and simply get your money back. The ironic thing is that I was kind of pissy pants that they raised the price on Elvira, almost cancelled the order thinking that was outrageous. Now I have a Deadpool on order for 9K............. My distributor is a super guy and he is just the messenger in the whole deal.

I think the moral of the story is if you think the price is high, just wait longer! I do think that a deposit down will not guarantee future price raises.

This post topic needs to be changed to "I'm Bored and want to bitch about random topics preferably that have nothing to do with CCr" Hard to wade through all the bs to see if any updates. By the way, the latest update is
"No update to report -- we are working on it and will advise when status changes. Thank you for your patience and your business!"

But instead they choose the path of radio silence so that the market can speculate and panic. This isn't Lebowski or Alien fraud happening -- you WILL get your game just go play your other ones while waiting. It may be a while based on past experience.

The good news -- nobody bitched about the Powerpoint for over 50 posts!!

True that!!!!

It's been confirmed that the SEs will be hitting the street this week.

Confirmed by who?

I have a SE on order and my distributor has not told me that.

Can't say yet. But I know for a fact it is true. This will be the first concrete/accurate news in 5494 posts.

Enjoy!

Nice!
I wonder how many SEs will ship before they switch to LEs? I gave my deposit Nov 2nd
For my SE. I assume that would mean I’m near the front? Maybe?
Richard

I smell games coming. That sucks on Valentine's day.

Not necessarily.

We have had two similar reports in the last few weeks from people convinced shipments were imminent.

Here’s hoping the third time’s the charm …

But a little strange we haven’t heard of anyone receiving a final invoice yet.

Yup, I totally understand. But this is a mortal lock. SEs in the wild this week.

Based on the people who took the poll on this thread only has 15% of us are in on the SE, and I imagine a lot of those people upgraded to the SE+ after that was announced.

It wouldn't be too surprising if the first batch of SEs that go out go to people not following this thread.

True. And only a fraction of owners of any new game are on here anyway.