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CCM Casino 1972 - First attempt at Game Restoration

By kamack

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

About 3 Months ago I picked up this game on Ebay - it was in Belfast, Northern Ireland which i think put folks off it as transport to UK mainland is ££. Luck had it that an associate had a Van coming to London that week and it was transported over as a favour!! I've owned 2 other games and learnt on them. One is still with me as i get it working 100% ( almost there ). It didn't have any major work required. This has been a learning curve for me, coming in with no experience but a head that wont give up! So i thought I would document the restoration of this game. Hopefully I can get some pointers along the way. Or be dragged before the courts for "Crimes against Pinball"...lets see.

The machine belonged to a chap for 15 years, he never got round to working on it. On first site it seemed to have little restoration work done to it. The playfield paint is down to wood above the Pop bumpers. The Body is coated in what i imagine to be 40 years of Nicotine, the Playfield is also in great need of a clean.

Im posting this first post 3 months in and will retrospectively post images until i get up to date with where i am now.

These initial images show the game as it came to me. It powered on but did little else at first. More on that later...

Looking forward to peoples comments and advice.

thanks for your help

Kamal

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#2 1 year ago

When I rework a used game, I start by getting the game running like it should first. After everything works, I will proceed with restoring, cosmetics, etc. I think it is helpful because when something doesn't work if you start directly into restoration, you don't know if it was something you caused in the rework, or if it didn't work in the first place. This can be very helpful information for troubleshooting. When you restore, you are going to be taking a lot of things apart that have to be put back correctly. Take lots of photos. When you think you have enough photos, take more, and from different angles.

#3 1 year ago

Thanks for this. I did indeed power it up. It went straight into game state ( no reset) on player 4. Initially the back box lights didn't come on, but came on after a few minutes. The game played. When the ball drained it gave bonus points and then the next time didn't register the drain. On powering it down and up again, it did nothing. Lit up but was not in game mode. Still no reset. Then i noticed smoke coming out of the back box where a coil was locked on in the player one score reel bank. so i powered down and have not powered up since. There is a lot of dodgy wiring back there, coils swapped out for other non CCM coils ( assumably they are ok). Wires not connected etc some switches broken. Overall the entire games steppers and relays are filthy. So i decided to stop there and give it a clean, noting what was missing and yes, taking a lot of pics.
Thinking being as i cleaned i would replace and repair. Then get back to powering up. Ill post some more pics today as to where i am.

#4 1 year ago

Here are some images of the state it came in and some cleaning up - sadly can not post vids of the 1st power up

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#5 1 year ago

You certainly have your work cut out for you. It reminds my of my 1958 Gottlieb Double Action woodrail. When I first brought it home I was saying to myself, "what have you done?"

Before you do anything else I would suggest you read this document top to bottom, it is literally the bible of EM repair and restoration tips.

http://www.pinrepair.com/em/

#6 1 year ago

Yep i get that - definitely had that moment. Im familiar with the pinrepair restoration pages - they have saved me on many occasions. ive had a zaccaria Ten Stars that was 80% working when i got it and i learnt a lot on that. I also have a 1964 Bally Harvest. Which had a lot of faults and dodgy mods along with some overpaints on the playfield and wear that i have restored very slowly whilst wanting to jump out the window. Both games worked to a point and didnt need major thinking - just time n a lot of youtube videos and staring at schematics not understanding. in time i got there.
This one is definitely going to require some major work - which i keep telling myself i'm up to.

Spent the last month inthe back box - cleaning reels and step units. wiring in loose wires, replacing coils and broken switches - just finished that yesterday. will post in a moment

#7 1 year ago

So heres some pics of the score reels as they came and as they are now once cleaned up. It had a few Zaccaria and williams coils in there which i have replaced with CCM coils. A lot of wires were loose, EOS leafs broken. all now (hopefully) rectified.

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#8 1 year ago

That is one filthy game! But looks to be cleaning up well.

I am just about finishing up a Chicago Coin Bullseye Baseball. Bought a ton of replacement hardware almost all from McMaster-Carr. Spent about the same on hardware as the game cost me. If you are short on any screws etc. ping me I might have spares.

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#9 1 year ago

I just bought this game today and it's also non-working. Will be doing a refurb on it eventually.

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#10 1 year ago

It needs a lot of work , and you are doing fine. Playfield, in my restoration standards, is in a very good condition. As for troubleshooting it , I prefer to take everything apart , clean , adjust and then troubleshoot. If you get everything working , almost always things will not work after you mess with the mecs.
Good luck

#11 1 year ago

pkurfess thats great. seeing these posts has given me the push to update what ive been up to. I spent about 10 hours in the back, working backwards from various hacks. lots of wires just chopped out and hanging loose, missing switches, a lot of dirt and mould! have not powered up yet so fingers crossed.

Coin door stripped back and primed then i resprayed it with a hammer finish grey, new coin slots...

Back Glass is in a very bad state - have one on order from Steve and BG resto... waiting on that any day now..

Mostly been going crazy trying to match old paint, mostly around the top of the pop bumpers and bonus lights. Been through the game cleaned and checked switches. Finally today i decided the playfield was good enough. waxed it twice and about to put the playfield back. More on that later.

Would love to hear peoples opinions on sealing the playfield. i see a lot of folks in the clear coat camp and others on the waxing side...

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#12 1 year ago

What did you use to clean the cabinet. Mine is almost identical to yours.
Thanks

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#13 1 year ago

Hey i used 99% alcahol and magic erasers - a lot of both!!

i shoud post some more progress pics - back soon

#14 1 year ago

So a few months have gone by. I decided to repaint the cabinet. More as a learning exercise and also perhaps at some point this will be the machine i restore to new conditions. anyways made me some stencils with Oil board. Took a one to one scan of the artwork so i always have that in case of a monumental error my side.

not too happy with the colour on the show girl - bit too dark could not get a great match - the search continues.

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#15 1 year ago

Got a new Back glass from Bgresto. Pretty happy with it. but not too sure on the colour match. seen mostly on the curtains and in the yellow..what to do...

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#16 1 year ago

And here it is- all working and i'm pretty happy with it.

would love to find a centre plastic to replace the broken one - if any one has one lying about....

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#17 1 year ago

Looks good! Backglass colors are a little off, but for me, no big complaints..
For years I've been cleaning dirty playfieilds with Magic Eraser and
Mechanics Hand Soap. The creamy kind. Not the gritty stuff. I've always
been pleased with it's results. Working it pretty hard, but with observing
care, I've been able to get some pretty caked on dirty playfields pretty darn clean..

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