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Caution: PinballShore.Com

By Dallas_Pin

2 years ago


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    #1 2 years ago

    Yesterday I was on FB and noticed a nice DE JP for sale for a good price ... too good. User was on FB for about 16 hours before the post. I told him to give me a call ... nothing. Today I get a text from him. I knew at this point it was a scam, so I went along with him for a bit for entertainment .. then he directed me to his 'website' pinballshore.com. Good looking site with machines for sale with photos and decent descriptions ... they have new, used and also do high-end restorations. The language looked too good to be true, so I did some research. The site descriptions and text were all stolen from ThePinballCompany. I am not sure where the machine images were acquired, but I know they were stolen from somewhere. To an unsuspecting consumer, it looks like a legit site, but it's located in Glasgow, DC at an address known to house scammer 'fronts'. Two phone numbers are on the site, one from the Massachusetts area and one from New Braunfels, TX. He added the TX number while we were texting. He told me the machine was located in Northridge, CA; great I told him, as I live near there and I would love to pick it up today. He could not make it today, but can meet me tomorrow (9/2) ... only if I paid a deposit. I told him to come pick up the cash deposit from me at 'my office' in LA .. which happens to be the FBI's LA office.

    Be safe Pinsiders ... and cash on the glass holds true!

    #2 2 years ago

    Lousy scammers - they seem to be multiplying!

    #3 2 years ago

    Thanks for letting everyone know about it.

    #4 2 years ago

    Had a guy do the same with on Craigslist with a xenon, demanded a deposit before he would allow me to pick it up. Wanted it Venmo. For some “reason” he didn’t have paypal

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    #5 2 years ago

    A guy called Joseph contacted me out of the blue on Instagram and told me to check out his website pinballshore.com i told him that i was searching for ‘project’ pins and my price range was a bit lower than the pins on their website. Then he asked what pins i was searching for and what i was willing to pay, so i said bsd and cftbl but he didnt know what that ment, he thought i was talking about pirates from the caribbean .. the next day he wrote again and told me that he had found what i was looking for and luckily only costed what i was willing to pay
    I then told him great! Where are they located, i would like to see what it is that i am buying, and maybe also save the shipping cost. i havent heard from him since..
    When things sound to good to be true, they usually are..

    10 months later
    #6 1 year ago

    Proceed with caution and DO NOT buy from Pinballshore.com

    We just had a client come into our store to make a deposit on a pinball machine listed on their web site. They have listed on their web site OUR MAILING ADDRESS, but the e-mail address and phone number are not ours. SCAM.

    If anyone has any idea how to turn a web site in for being fraudulent I'd appreciate your assistance.

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    #7 1 year ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    If anyone has any idea how to turn a web site in for being fraudulent I'd appreciate your assistance.

    Start here - https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds

    Get in touch with their IP too. Let them know illegal activity is going on, on their system.

    LTG : )

    #8 1 year ago

    I love how on their page they have this picture of a pinball machine...wonder how much that model goes for?

    also check out this text from their website...

    "pinballshore knows that purchasing a Pinball Machines is same as purchasing a T-Shirt, that is why will always be here to provide our support, and answer any concern that customers might have"

    ummm...I've seen many descriptions of buying pinball machines, but I've never heard anyone say "it's just like buying a T-shirt".

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    #9 1 year ago

    We should be thanking them.
    After all, who hasn't had issues requiring support following a T-shirt purchase?

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Start here - https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds
    Get in touch with their IP too. Let them know illegal activity is going on, on their system.
    LTG : )

    Good idea Lloyd. As a followup, here's some information for the OP:

    The phone number listed on the site is carried by Enflick/TextNow/Bandwidth - Their abuse address is [email protected]. They also have a webform at https://www.bandwidth.com/legal/report-a-phone-number/

    The site in question is hosted by Quadranet (https://www.quadranet.com/) - Their respective abuse address is [email protected]

    That phone number is also used on a scam site at allpuppieshome.com (They sell puppies, yay!) and the domain was registered May 17th 2020.

    Best of luck, and thanks for keeping everyone informed.

    #11 1 year ago

    They have a high end restoration Addams for only 4500! Im in!
    https://pinballshore.com/product/addams-family-by-bally-high-end-restoration/

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    If anyone has any idea how to turn a web site in for being fraudulent I'd appreciate your assistance.

    The Whois data is (mostly) a dead end, they’re using a third party to hide their information. Scammers almost always do that but lots of legitimate domain owners do too.
    https://whois.whoisxmlapi.com/lookup-report/eJ2aAj3D2j

    The site is hosted at IPv4 Address: 104.223.95.207
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/104.223.95.207
    hostnext.net resolves to https://www.hosterpk.com/ same site listed in the Whois data.

    The IP isn’t on any of the major block lists.
    Hosterpk has a terms and conditions page at https://www.hosterpk.com/terms-archived
    and a contact us link and email address at their site. It would probably be fruitless but worth sending an email and asking them to remove pinballshore.com

    Compy pointed out quadranet, that’s the upstream provider to hostnext.net

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    Proceed with caution and DO NOT buy from Pinballshore.com
    We just had a client come into our store to make a deposit on a pinball machine listed on their web site. They have listed on their web site OUR MAILING ADDRESS, but the e-mail address and phone number are not ours. SCAM.
    If anyone has any idea how to turn a web site in for being fraudulent I'd appreciate your assistance. [quoted image]

    Were you at least able to sell them an actual pinball machine? Or are they committed to buying a game that doesn't exist at a blowout price?

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Were you at least able to sell them an actual pinball machine? Or are they committed to buying a game that doesn't exist at a blowout price?

    No unfortunately not. He was eyeing up the Fish Tales they had on their site for $3800 that looked to be fully restored. I told him we didn't have one of those ready at the moment and if we did depending upon condition it would be higher than $4k if it has a restored cabinet, and looked as nice as the one in the pics on pinballshore.com

    That was the specific title he was looking for as it was for their lake house. I did however take his business card, we have a few Fish Tales in the back and that gave me the motivation today to pull them out and see what they need. So maybe it will relate to a sale here down the road. We'll see.

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dallas_Pin:

    but it's located in Glasgow, DC at an address known to house scammer 'fronts'.

    Just wondering, how do you find that out?

    #16 1 year ago

    Good information here concerning reporting...

    https://support.google.com/websearch/thread/12445382?hl=en

    #17 1 year ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    No unfortunately not. He was eyeing up the Fish Tales they had on their site for $3800 that looked to be fully restored. I told him we didn't have one of those ready at the moment and if we did depending upon condition it would be higher than $4k if it has a restored cabinet, and looked as nice as the one in the pics on pinballshore.com
    That was the specific title he was looking for as it was for their lake house. I did however take his business card, we have a few Fish Tales in the back and that gave me the motivation today to pull them out and see what they need. So maybe it will relate to a sale here down the road. We'll see.

    Hopefully, you also explained to him that it's NOT "just like buying a t-shirt"...

    #18 1 year ago

    “We love Pinball, the mechanicsm, the sounds, the effects, the LED. We want to share our passion to everyone who enjoy in playing mechanical Pinball machines.”

    Sounds okay.

    #19 1 year ago

    Guys, you can right click a photo in Google chrome and search for the image.
    They ripped off https://kingarupinball.com/product/addams-family-by-bally/

    8 months later
    #20 9 months ago

    After seeing the fantastic deals I searched Pinside for "Pinballshores" and tada, here you all are. But you're missing the real value: I currently have ONE MILLION Medieval Madness pins in my cart. For only $4,000,000,000. You suckas missed the boat!

    #21 9 months ago

    This post saved me! I thought the Addams Family fully restored for $4,500 was too good to be true so after the seller asked me for a "deposit" I decided to do a little more due diligence and search up Pinside. Good work all! Thanks for saving me from being an idiot. I had a feeling that was not a Texan accent!....

    1 week later
    #22 8 months ago

    With all the reporting about this fraudulent outfit, how do they still have an online presence?
    Just scary how much fraud is not removed by the ISP and investigated by the FTC and FBI, or by any attorney general's office whatever state (if they are in the US) they are operating from.

    #23 8 months ago

    interesting. Thanks for the rightclickimagesearch info - had no idea. Doing that, I found that their 'team' is the same as this team:
    https://www.homeleisuredirect.com/company/meet-the-team.html

    so maybe they ripped that off, or it's the same group.

    #24 8 months ago
    Quoted from wawhite92025:

    With all the reporting about this fraudulent outfit, how do they still have an online presence?

    I unknowingly bought a counterfeit PS4 controller a few months ago. When it had issues I sent it to Sony for repair and they let me know it wasn't genuine. Then I did a deep dig and the website is known for selling trash. I contacted the VT AG, NV AG, and (if I remember correctly) the FTC or FBI. No feedback or change. The site is still there to this day. Irritating to say the least!

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    #25 8 months ago

    Holy crap I’m glad I seen this about pinball shore being a scam I knew something was off

    #26 8 months ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    Proceed with caution and DO NOT buy from Pinballshore.com
    We just had a client come into our store to make a deposit on a pinball machine listed on their web site. They have listed on their web site OUR MAILING ADDRESS, but the e-mail address and phone number are not ours. SCAM.
    If anyone has any idea how to turn a web site in for being fraudulent I'd appreciate your assistance. [quoted image]

    They're hosted in Pakistan. You can usually get a spammer/scammer website killed (until they move it) by contacting the host explaining a Terms of Service violation.

    The host TOS violation email is [email protected]

    Their TOS listing is here. I'm sure you can find multiple items to call out being violated by pinballshore.com:

    https://www.hosterpk.com/aup

    #27 8 months ago
    Quoted from arcyallen:

    I unknowingly bought a counterfeit PS4 controller a few months ago. When it had issues I sent it to Sony for repair and they let me know it wasn't genuine. Then I did a deep dig and the website is known for selling trash. I contacted the VT AG, NV AG, and (if I remember correctly) the FTC or FBI. No feedback or change. The site is still there to this day. Irritating to say the least!

    Do a whois on the site to find out who is hosting it, then look up the TOS for that host. There's usually a contact link or email for TOS violations. You can get the host to kick them, killing the site until they re-host, rinse, repeat as much as you want.

    #28 8 months ago
    Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

    Hosterpk has a terms and conditions page at https://www.hosterpk.com/terms-archived
    and a contact us link and email address at their site. It would probably be fruitless but worth sending an email and asking them to remove pinballshore.com

    I've actually had pretty good success when going to the trouble to point out TOS violations to hosts. It's a hassle, but if the fraud/scam is clear and you have proof, most hosts are pretty cooperative, even overseas.

    #29 8 months ago

    I was looking at their Whitewater listing the other day and was going to contact them until I looked to see if they were real.

    #30 8 months ago

    Seems more like pinballoffshore.com.

    Glad nobody got taken. Stay safe out there.

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    #31 7 months ago

    I just talked to ‘Roger’ on the phone today. What a scam and f-king scumbag. Not that I got taken at all, just my cool. I asked if the batteries were still in White Water, or nvram i installed...he gave me the weirdest answer, which wasn’t even close to real. I feel like texting that fker back. It’s a real shame that these scam-sites remain online, taking other people’s money. CRAZY.

    #32 7 months ago

    Man just saved myself a huge headache. So glad I searched pinball shore and found out it is a scam. I had a feeling it was, but glad I checked.

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