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Catacomb Club

By AlexSMendes

9 years ago


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Post #217 Good summary of complicated rules on bagatelle. Posted by cottonm4 (7 years ago)

Post #244 Catacomb tips. Posted by cottonm4 (6 years ago)

Post #299 Great rule summary. Posted by cottonm4 (6 years ago)

Post #311 Catacomb rules video. Posted by OTTOgd (6 years ago)

Post #328 PAPA video linked! Posted by harbngr (6 years ago)

Post #434 Analysis of Stern production numbers Posted by Shapeshifter (5 years ago)

Post #608 Roger Sharp game review for Catacomb from 1981 Posted by Shapeshifter (5 years ago)


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#740 5 years ago
Quoted from Ralph67:

Pinscore I believe , think they all are pretty much the same really

There's differences, but you have to be the type to demand more out of LED displays and their aesthetics.

The new configurations of the Pinitech displays use custom digits I created from the ground up that match plasma displays in orange so completely well that you can literally just swap a single display out and you'll be thrilled with how it looks in your game, alongside the other 4x plasma displays. There's no need to dim the display to make the orange "look closer" to the plasma look. The orange IS the plasma color. The brightness controls the brightness as it should & there's full range on the dimming that transitions smoothly.

But even outside of the orange color, the new custom digits on the Pinitech displays were "hand-drawn" in Photoshop (down to the angles on the segments, the spacing where the segments meet each other, height of the digit, angle of the digit, comma position) to just look better and match the plasmas better. I didn't allow the tooling engineers to take my drawings arbitrarily (believe me, they tried.. multiple times). I actually went back and forth to force them to make the digits match my drawings.. down to the millimeter of spacing on things. So even if you go with another color I'm offering (RED, BLUE, WHITE with color filters) the aesthetics still look "different" than anything else out there.

All this said, you have to be the type of person that is picky with how your displays look. Plenty of people are fine with displays that "work", anything will do from generic digits to plamas that have issues on some segments or flicker but still work. For those people, it may not bother them if they have a few that look different. That's not the market I'm catering my displays toward.

The Pinitech displays are for people that wanted something more from LED displays in these games, high end restorers, people with larger Bally/Stern collections that want the led displays to blend with their line-up that has plasma displays. IMO, you really can't lose for what amounts to an extra $5 or so per individual display DIY Kit (when part of a set) in order to try something new that might just live up to the hype for once. There's incredible value in these sets I think.

I should be demo'ing the Pinitech displays at the Allentown Show this year for anyone that wants to check them out in-person. I'll be in the flea market area (I'm the non-conformist type and enjoy the contrast of having something completely different available in the flea market area). Though mainly it's because I tag along to help my 65yo crazy father with whatever he hauls to the show... people here that know of him *KNOW* what that's about

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#742 5 years ago
Quoted from Ralph67:

Fantastic , didn't realise you went to the trouble to get them to match the look and size of the originals , nice going , I can understand how some people like everything to look perfect , I know a few collectors like that . The pinscore Led's looks like a standard 7 segment Led to me.
I would like a buy your Blue set for my Sea Witch from you , Do you have that set in the single board type or the 2 boards type?
Either set would be okay with me
Regards
Ralph

Yep, hours and hours spent on trying to achieve perfection. It's not for everyone, but for me it's kind of fun at times taking on a challenge and being very detailed about it all -- knowing that the painstaking work will be well worth it in the end when you create something different. The people that see that level of detail will appreciate it and that's fun to hear from those people. And there's people that know it looks nice, are happy with how it looks, but can't quite place their finger on why it looks better -- and that's cool too. That's the fun part of designing that way, everyone benefits.

I have the displays available in orange, red, blue or white digit colors in either model (UNO single-board or the TRADITIONAL 2-board style). They're available as either a DIY Kit or Fully Assembled.

Some more info on them here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-pinitech-led-displays-for-classic-bally-stern-plasma-contender

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