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Catacomb Club

By AlexSMendes

7 years ago


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#1351 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

Also, the large plastic in the Bagatelle

What is wrong with this plastic on your Cat?

Glad you like my pop caps. They still jazz me 3 years later. If you are doing something similar you might consider lighting them up with the EVO BriteCaps from Pinball Life. I first had LEDs in the light socket but there was an annoying glare. I installed the EVOs and got a real nice light going with these caps now with no glare. You only want to use the white EVOs. I tried the yellow ones and they were fugly.

https://www.pinballlife.com/britecaps-evo-pop-bumper-lighting.html

#1352 4 months ago

cottonm4 it is cracked pretty badly. Not affecting the game, just doesn’t look very good. I’ll keep the Evo’s in mind. Fixing a couple little glitches right now.

#1353 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

cottonm4 it is cracked pretty badly. Not affecting the game, just doesn’t look very good. I’ll keep the Evo’s in mind. Fixing a couple little glitches right now.

The lower leg on my left arch plastic has about 5/8" broken off. I don't notice it and would not mind replacing it but several people would need some other pieces of plastics to help spread the costs.

Curious as to how that particular piece got cracked. It makes no sense.

#1354 4 months ago

cottonm4 as you can see…entire corner is missing and is cracked further. Not sure, that way when we received it. That is the worst of the game. Except bottom of back of cabinet, but we don’t see that. Otherwise, in really nice shape. Waiting on boards for LED’s-much better lighting.

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#1355 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

cottonm4 as you can see…entire corner is missing and is cracked further. Not sure, that way when we received it. That is the worst of the game. Except bottom of back of cabinet, but we don’t see that. Otherwise, in really nice shape. Waiting on boards for LED’s-much better lighting.
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Take a file or some heavy grit sandpaper and smooth the rough areas out. It won't look perfect but it will look a little better.

#1356 4 months ago

cottonm4
DawnP
Try posting in this forum for the plastics that you need.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/trade-your-plastics

#1357 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

cottonm4 as you can see…entire corner is missing and is cracked further. Not sure, that way when we received it. That is the worst of the game. Except bottom of back of cabinet, but we don’t see that. Otherwise, in really nice shape. Waiting on boards for LED’s-much better lighting.
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Quoted from cottonm4:

Take a file or some heavy grit sandpaper and smooth the rough areas out. It won't look perfect but it will look a little better.

Cheap fix:

1) Get a piece of .030 polycarbonate plastic (lexan).

You have several options on Ebay for .030 poly. You can cut .030 poly with a pair of good scissors.

ebay.com link: sch

This auction would be perfect for you.

ebay.com link: itm

2) Get a can of this spray paint.

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3) Cut away the bad material on your broken piece. Cut your piece of .030 to correct size ( I can scan it for you ) and paint it on the backside.

4) Clean up the broken edge of your plastic ( The edge of the crucible make a natural trim line). Mount the .030 behind the broken piece that you trimmed to clean up the broken edge.

It won't be perfect but it will be better than it is.

#1358 4 months ago

One of my friends has one of my repro glass he is interested in selling. The game was sold with the original glass.

#1359 4 months ago
Quoted from greatwichjohn:

One of my friends has one of my repro glass he is interested in selling. The game was sold with the original glass.

How much is he looking to sell for? I would have to check with hubs to see if he is interested. Ours does have some missing paint at the bottom.

#1360 4 months ago

cottonm4 Is that paint color the same for the cabinet if already painted? (Original paint). I need to do some touch up on the cabinet in places. Haven’t bought any craft paints yet. For the plastic, I might have some poly at work. I might be able to “fix” the plastic by making a template in CAD and cut like you said, along the crucible and make new corner and glue backup piece to it and make it flush on the front.

#1361 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

How much is he looking to sell for? I would have to check with hubs to see if he is interested. Ours does have some missing paint at the bottom.

Hi DawnP if you buy greatwhichs BG I'll buy yours thanks

#1362 4 months ago
Quoted from DawnP:

cottonm4 Is that paint color the same for the cabinet if already painted? (Original paint). I need to do some touch up on the cabinet in places. Haven’t bought any craft paints yet. For the plastic, I might have some poly at work. I might be able to “fix” the plastic by making a template in CAD and cut like you said, along the crucible and make new corner and glue backup piece to it and make it flush on the front.

I got the spray can color from SMP14. Click on the link.

Quoted from SMP14:

Couple of things I'm having issues with, the left flipper button switch is wired to J3-16, which I got. But, it's also wired to J2-1, which I am not sure how that is wired, since J2-1 is on the playfield, do I have to daisy chain this somehow?
Also having issue with the VSU 100 wiring. I can understand everything except "J3 pin 1 to GI buss" ...which GI buss should I connect this to since there are multiple GI Buss labeled in the schematic? Thanks
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This is not the color chip, but I do have a color chip from Walmart that is a very close match to the Catacomb green. Lowes or Home Depot also has a color chip that is a real close match for Catacomb green. I don't know about Walmart but Lowes and HD will mix up paint samples in 4 oz. containers witch might be enough for touch up work. However, I am an automotive paint guy and don't know well these paints work except for painting house walls.

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Quoted from DawnP:

I might be able to “fix” the plastic by making a template in CAD and cut like you said, along the crucible and make new corner and glue backup piece to it and make it flush on the front.

You really don't need a template. You are just cutting a rectangle with a trimmed corner down in the lower right hand. That trimmed corner is factory so the plastic ball does not get blocked by a sharp corner.

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You don't need to glue the back up piece. You don't want to glue the backup piece because that will destroy the inks. But you will have to do something different. The plastic is mounted using 5 spacers that around here are referred to as "bells. These are captive spacers. When doing your repair you can use any spacer you want; You are not limited to reusing the bells.

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These are to facilitate factory assembly. They are swaged to the plastic.

SIDEBAR: If you buy new plastics you will have to remove these bells. So you are not making extra work for yourself by removing these.

If I were doing this job here is how I would do it.

1) Heat the plastic up with a hair dryer to soften it a bit.

2) Carefully rotate and manipulate the bell to pull it from the plastic. Be careful and take time to not mess anything up.

3) I would only remove the 3 lower bells to give a 3-point lockdown for the repair poly. Leave the 2 top bells alone.

4) Cut 3 small pieces of your .030 poly to make 3 or 5 custom washers. Drill a small hole in each washer and run a screw through the holes to make your own threads.

5) Prepare the repair poly by cutting to fit, painting and match drilling 3 holes from where you pulled the bells.

6) Sandwich the repair poly between the factory plastic and a bell. Insert a screw into the factory plastic and the repair poly and a bell.

7) Take on of the custom washers you made and screw it down. You now have made yourself a captive, or captured, screw and spacer. Do this 2 more times. Your repair poly will be located properly and you did not have to use any glue.

8*) This part is optional: Take washers # 4 and #5 and make the two top bells as a captive screw setup. This would be for uniformity only. So your spacing will be even. But we are only talking .030 so this step is not important.

9) Take your now repaired plastic with its captive bells and reinstall.

SIDEBAR #2: When you remove the bells you will see how the swaged area is curled over. You have 3 options.

A). You can sand those curled over areas off.

B) You can take a pair of needle nose pliers and straighten out the curled area so you can get the bel back into correct position. And then refer to Steps 1-9 above.

C) You can heat up the factory plastic and try to weasel the curled area back into its hole (sometimes this works. Sometimes it does not).

For myself, I would try option B and if that gets the bell back into its hole then I would refer back to steps 1-9.

If option B does not work, I would go with option A. Here is why.

If someday you decide to buy repro plastics, using steps 1-9 will allow you to make the swap by just using a screwdriver.

Some of the above may not make sense to you right now, but if you proceed with your repair all I have said will make sense as you work through your repair.

Good Luck

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#1363 3 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

OK. For the smoke on the glass, there are some Catacomb's with "smoke" on the back glass and some with out. It is not a big deal for game play, but the smoke hides the parts on the back glass that make up the one-way gate.
I have found a local printer who can print these up. But the setup fee is $100.00. If enough Catacomb owners would be interested in a smoke sticker so I could spread the costs. After the setup fee charges each sticker would be around $3.00. If I could get 10 people to commit this could happen for about $13.00 per sticker.
If anyone is interested, please raise your hand.
Thanks
Glass with the smoke.
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Quoted from TheLaw:

Bro, smoke me up!

Quoted from Jr99svt:

im in for 2 smoke stickers

Quoted from cottonm4:

Hello, #3 and #4.
If I can get one more, that would spread the setup cost five ways. I'm told it will cost around $3.00 for each printed sticker.
For 5 of us, the cost would be around $23-$25 per sticker. I would like cheaper, of course, but I would step up for $25.00 to get my smoke sticker.
Looking for #5.

Quoted from cottonm4:

Is there anybody else who wants a "smoke" sticker for their back glass?
The more the merrier.

Okay. I was able to get something worked up for a decal sticker to add/replace the smoke in the Catacomb back glass. It not 100% but it is real close.

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Here is the original for comparison. The splotches of heavier white are more pronounced, but I can only get what I can get.

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The decal is designed to be installed from the backside of the glass. Application is by marking the ballgate area that is to be hidden. I used masking tape.

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Then you turn the glass over, peel the decal from the backing paper, and apply the decal inside the area you marked with masking tape.

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I'll need $17.00 each for them. It will be after the first of the year before I can move on these.

Let me know if you want one.

#1364 3 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

I'll need $17.00 each for them. It will be after the first of the year before I can move on these.
Let me know if you want one.

Nice!

I'll take 2.

#1365 3 months ago

Hi, got pretty much everything working on this catacomb, came a very long way. from your guys help I was able to get the bagatelle flipper working.

Few last things. The switches for the bagatelle are very finicky and need to be cleaned and adjusted. The ball sometimes also doesn't really roll over all 3 switches fully. How do these switches work exactly, im moving my finger over them and not all of these switches are working usually only through C and D I've heard noise and the ball ends. Very weird, any help appreciated thanks!

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#1366 3 months ago
Quoted from SMP14:

Hi, got pretty much everything working on this catacomb, came a very long way. from your guys help I was able to get the bagatelle flipper working.
Few last things. The switches for the bagatelle are very finicky and need to be cleaned and adjusted. The ball sometimes also doesn't really roll over all 3 switches fully. How do these switches work exactly, im moving my finger over them and not all of these switches are working usually only through C and D I've heard noise and the ball ends. Very weird, any help appreciated thanks!
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Nice work !

The switches are blade switches like your inlane and outlane switches. Clean them with the business card if you have not. done so. Check them for proper adjustment.

I have not figured out how they work other then that the top switch in each lane controls which light you scored. Somehow.

#1367 3 months ago
Quoted from SMP14:

The switches for the bagatelle are very finicky and need to be cleaned and adjusted...
How do these switches work exactly, im moving my finger over them and not all of these switches are working usually only through C and D I've heard noise and the ball ends.

The bagatelle switches are a replica of the drop target switches. If you're trying to test the bagatelle switches, make sure all the drop targets are raised so there's no closed switches.

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#1368 86 days ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Nice!
I'll take 2.

I have the smoke decals ready. I have sent you a PM.

I have 3 more decals made up if anybody else wants to hide the ball gate in the Catacomb back glass.

#1369 86 days ago

Oh yeahhhh!

1 week later
#1370 79 days ago

Does anyone have a Catacomb backglass they want to sell?

#1371 73 days ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Nice!
I'll take 2.

Great work Cotton! Covers up the posts & rubber nice

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#1372 73 days ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Great work Cotton! Covers up the posts & rubber nice
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It looks good. Glad you are happy with it.

#1373 73 days ago

Does anyone have a Catacomb backglass they want to sell?</blockquot

BG Resto reproduces these.

http://bgresto.com/?p=1605

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#1374 65 days ago

Hey all. I am getting ready to print some Catacomb backglass. I've looked at the repros that are out there and there are some issues I am working to address before going to print. This started with removing some dust and scratches but continues with contrast and sharpening. I'd like to talk to a few people who have an original glass, and those who have spotted the issues with the reproduction.

Fantastic!

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#1375 65 days ago
Quoted from FantasticPinball:

Hey all. I am getting ready to print some Catacomb backglass. I've looked at the repros that are out there and there are some issues I am working to address before going to print. This started with removing some dust and scratches but continues with contrast and sharpening. I'd like to talk to a few people who have an original glass, and those who have spotted the issues with the reproduction.
Fantastic!
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I had an original back glass but sold it. It was different than the one you posted. Mine was called a "white glass" I think. It was lighter and the bricks on the wall were more visible. I had a Greatwich back glass but there were printing problems and John bought it back. It was way too dark.

Then I bought this BG Resto back glass. It is still darker than I like.

You need to go with the "after" pic you posted to make the details lighter and more visible.

#1376 65 days ago

I am concerned about this area. IS the original black like this, or was this a damaged glass that was scanned?
Also, I need photos of the back side of an original glass.

Fantastic!

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#1377 65 days ago
Quoted from FantasticPinball:

I am concerned about this area. IS the original black like this, or was this a damaged glass that was scanned?
Also, I need photos of the back side of an original glass.
Fantastic!
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That area does not look right. I'll get some pics of mine.

#1378 64 days ago
Quoted from FantasticPinball:

I am concerned about this area. IS the original black like this, or was this a damaged glass that was scanned?

If you look through the image gallery of this thread you'll see most backglass pictures don't have that lower black area of missing artwork.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/catacomb-club?gallery#g

#1379 64 days ago

The art work is def missing. here is a shot of mine.

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