Is it safe to use pure non cleaner Carnuba wax on EM's? I know many use it but I heard from a reliable and experienced source that it will peel the paint off of Williams and Bally playfields.
Has anyone had any paint peeling or lifting issues because of it on there EM's on any brand?
Quoted from jasonsmith:paint peeling or lifting issues because of it on there EM's
Never heard of that
Ive never had wax cause paint peeling.
Ive had 20 years in a barn cause paint peeling but never wax 
--Jeff
what does your "reliable and experienced source" say to use? just curious. I use carnuba paste on all my EM's.
I was surprised when I heard it as well but the reason that was given was the "color enhancing" chemicals caused the lifting. If it was anyone else I would have dismissed it but this fella knows his stuff, he has a ton of machines at home and routed. So I figured I would poll the audience.
Maybe a playfield that is lifting already due to whatever can be aggravated by the wax, idunno.
Quoted from LukeInOklahoma:what does your "reliable and experienced source" say to use? just curious. I use carnuba paste on all my EM's.
Johnson's Paste Wax
I never have used Carnuba Wax but have heard it is one of the best same as Johnson's Paste Wax which is what I use and is available at Lowe's and Home Depot and is formulated especially for wood with no cleaners added.
These are the ONLY 2 waxes I would use on an EM Playfield, Johnson's being #1 in my book.
Ken
Novus 2 and Meguires Pure Carnuba - use it all the time on all my EM pin playfields including my shuffle and WMS pitch and bat formica and have not once had any issues. Hell I used it on the painted wood surface of my running man unit in my pitch and bat and that thing shines like new.
Everyone is right no cleaners or petroluem based products you can jack your playfield with that stuff.
OHEMIO
Is millwax no good? I use it on my non cleared pfields and it seems to work. Carnuba on the cleared stuff.
Quoted from cougtv:Is millwax no good? I use it on my non cleared pfields and it seems to work. Carnuba on the cleared stuff.
Not sure, never heard one way or the other on Mill-Wax, seems no one here has an opinion on the stuff... (ducks for cover)
Steve from PB resource suggested it when I bought my first pin (sky jump). This was years ago. It seems to work fine. Some others advised against using it on cleared pins as it can take the clear off. It cleans and waxes in one step. To get the things glass like I found 3-7 coats on a first (non maintenance) cleanup. I was just wondering on long term effects or input from people who know more than me??
Quoted from OHEMIO:Never used Millwax.
I use it on Pinball legs, balls, Coin Doors, other metals to polish and protect only.
It is not a very good wax product and with the cleaners in it could cause damage down the road using it repeatedly for EM Playfields IMO.
Ken
Quoted from cougtv:Is millwax no good? I use it on my non cleared pfields and it seems to work. Carnuba on the cleared stuff.
Millwax is fine for cleaning EM playfields (at least original playfields; can't vouch for cleared ones). Follow it with a couple coats of carnauba wax too if you like.
(For those new to the hobby, various potions and elixirs for cleaning and waxing playfields have been the subject of much debate for the last couple decades, Millwax being one of them. Some folks swear by it, others won't touch it. Novus 2 is a popular choice for cleaning also. Either one gets followed by a dedicated wax though, usually a carnauba or something like Johnson's. Personally, I've never had Millwax do any harm to a playfield, nor carnauba wax for that matter, in the course of nearly 20 years. So far.)
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I used to have one of these, sold it for $800.00
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It was a retirement gift to my father-in-law. He's enjoyed it, but really doesn't have the space for it, so I'll be getting it back soon. No complaints here, except being outta space.
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