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Card Whiz wire connections at P3E and PE4; please

By BleacherBum

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

I have a request. Can someone that has a Card Whiz post a picture of the wire connections for P3E and P4E? I think mine may have been previously adjusted. I am working on a couple of problems that may be related to these switches.

Thanks Much,
Phil

#2 2 years ago

Half in the bag watching hockey so if no one has given you a pic when I check back tomorrow I'll have a look in mine for you.

#3 2 years ago

bumping to keep fresh. Will greatly appreciate any input.

#4 2 years ago
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#5 2 years ago

Thanks guard, Helpful, but I was hoping for a picture of the Switch stack showing the connections for P3E and P4E (top side). The soldering looks a bit suspicious. The solder does not look like the rest.

Thanks, Phil

#6 2 years ago

Sorry.....I will have a look.

#7 2 years ago

No Problem, My initial request should have been more specific. It is I who should be apologizing for causing you extra work when you are trying to be helpful. I trully appreciate your help. I have attached a picture of the switches in question.

Thanks, Phil

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#8 2 years ago

The photo helps. And from here it looks like something is wonky.
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If you compare against the schematic you can see that the blue-white-red wire (1) comes into the top of the frame to the P4E switch. Check.
On the other side of the P4E switch the orange-white-red wire (2) leaves the other side of the P4E switch. Check.
And further down you can see the brown-white-red (3) wire leaves one side of the P3E switch. Check.

However,
- the orange-red-white wire (2) should go to the other side of the P3E switch.
- the P3E switch appears to have its solder lugs shorted together.
- that blue jumper wire goes somewhere it probably shouldn't. It should maybe go to the orange-white-red (2) wire on switch P4E instead?

If the P3E switch is really shorted, it seems that the player 1 score reels might not reset properly.

/Mark

#9 2 years ago

Lousy camera in phone but hopefully this helps

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#10 2 years ago

Thanks Guys, I appreciate the help! I thought somthing was amiss with the wiring. I an not surprised as the switch dog question in another thread was in the wrong position at 2C. I still not up to speed on reading the schematic and therefore not always confident in my interpretation. So once again thanks for all of your help.

Mark:
If you compare against the schematic you can see that the blue-white-red wire (1) comes into the top of the frame to the P4E switch. Check.
(Phil's response: solder joints look good and the connection as 0 ohms.

On the other side of the P4E switch the orange-white-red wire (2) leaves the other side of the P4E switch. Check.
(Phil's response: Checks OK)

And further down you can see the brown-white-red (3) wire leaves one side of the P3E switch. Check.
(Phil's response: Checks OK-leaves top tab next to P2)

However,
- the orange-red-white wire (2) should go to the other side of the P3E switch.
- the P3E switch appears to have its solder lugs shorted together.
(Phil's response: Yes they are. This is what confused me and my resulting question. At your suggestion, I de-solder the connection between P4E and P4E.
I then connected a jumper between the orange-red-white wire (2) to the other side of the P3E switch. I then initiated a start up sequence. Both Player Score Reels now re-set to zero.) YAH!

- that blue jumper wire goes somewhere it probably shouldn't. It should maybe go to the orange-white-red (2) wire on switch P4E instead?
(Phil's Response: the blue jumper is between P1 and P2. Teh picture doesn't show this clearly. I left it alone for now).

If the P3E switch is really shorted, it seems that the player 1 score reels might not reset properly.
(Phil' Respnse: you are correct. Player One Score Reels did not reset. They do not after removing the dead short and connection P3E to P4E via the orange-red-white wire).

Guard thanks for the picture as I do find them helpful.

Now I have to figure out way the U relay does not de-energize upon AX energizes. I'll start a different thread for that.

Thanks Much!
Phil

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