You can listen to the KP seminar on Twitch where they address the Capcom parts vs other parts.

Previous remakes - assuming you mean MMR and AFMR. Only difference is the boards and lights. All mechanical parts are the same as used in the original games. Though brand new, the parts are made to Williams specs.

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And if you could find the special parts, they would be pricier than standard available Williams parts. Of which seem to be available for a long time into the future with so many companies using them and parts sellers stocking them.

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Easy to do and maybe use Capcom style coils.

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There are some here - http://ssbilliards.com/KingPin/index.html

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Send a PM to pkiefert and he'll let you know all the details. And I'm sure you can buy one.

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Visiting my alma mater ?

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Disclaimer : Say hi to Doug and Ryan for me.

I just had another thought.

Visiting my friends building their new factory ?

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Disclaimer : Say hi to Nirmal and Dhaval for me.

You got a better company to build them ?

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

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No. And the move to the new building includes three assembly lines. Two for them. And one for projects just like this.

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No.

AP/CGC/Stern/ nothing confirmed.

All we know is Paul posted he is going to Chicago in his King Pin being built thread.

Heck he could even be going to Pinball Life to order pinball parts to start production at their own building.

He could bear really late or early for Pinball Expo.

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Either soul satisfying. Or a rush to get out, one way or ta other.

Good luck. I hope the former for you.

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Maybe they are on a hot dog pilgrimage. To taste every hot dog the city has to offer.

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10 Days ago on this thread. Not that long ago. And now the holidays. Awhile after the first of the year they'll post some news when there is some. They are likely making up parts list on what is needed and checking into companies to build, if they don't themselves.

We'll get news when there is some and more than is out there now.

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No.

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It is.

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Wow.

They've worked with PPS for a long time now going back to their Pinball Circus project.

They haven't taken any pre order money.

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I remember when jokes were funny.
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And we don't know if he left the company and attacked them.

Wouldn't be the first time on Pinside.

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Yes. Just like when that guy from JJP was fired and leaked the next three game titles on Pinside. Or that guy that had left the company building The Big Lebowski and still threw that huge party at Expo with company money according to posts here that was supposed to go to building games.

HaHaHa. You are right Kim. It's a fucking hoot !

Too cool.

I'd wait until they are rolling down the assembly line before trying to make any sense.

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Rumor is CGC may make BBBR. But no way of knowing if we'll ever see it.

Circus Maximus was in Chicago awhile back talking to various manufacturers. So they may hire one to do it, or do it themselves.

So if Circus Maximus hires CGC to build Kingpin, and if CGC makes BBBR. Then it wouldn't be different manufacturers.

Only time will tell.

Only thing for sure is anyone wanting a Big Bang Bar or a Kingpin. I hope your chance to own one comes true.

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Look at the backglass. The top 1/4th of it. Gangster holding the gun. The topper looked like that.

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Circus Maximus is doing Kingpin to fund the Pinball Circus machine project.

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I don't know if anything definite has been planned yet. Cirqus Maximus has looked at other companies to manufacture the game, like CGC and AP. Or they might make their own line.

It may be awhile. But once they are rolling I'm sure we'll get the info.

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Maybe they aren't set up for more than the pinball machines and video games they make ?

No idea on the video games. But right now they have MMR's going, and eventually their next game.

You'd have to find a company with more than one line, and maybe people.

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People need to realize this project takes time. These are a few people. Not all in the same area. Bringing the project together. Not a whole company. So when something comes up like acceptable playfield/parts/what ever. It needs to be dealt with and solved.

Once the project is rolling. Things will be smoother and quicker. They have reported in the past on hiring an existing manufacturer to build them, or make their own line.

It will take some time. But well worth the wait. They have already shown what they can do and the direction they are headed at pinball shows. And it is an amazing game. More so with the improvements they have added.

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No.

These pictures may help - http://ssbilliards.com/KingPin/index.html

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No sign they are letting it die.

Granted this year has probably been a disaster for many companies to move forward. I'm sure they want to move it forward.

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Or that their tube dancer is 13% smaller than the original.

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Cutout for a Williams ball trough.

A step in the right direction. Capcom's wasn't that hot. Especially the tiny connectors to the ball trough opto boards.

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To design and test your own boards and electronics inside a working machine.

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I was answering the question.

I'd never say anyone can't speak freely.

Kingpin is my favorite pin. I wish the project was moving faster too.

Being that James and Paul, and others are doing it all on their own. And live in different parts of the country. Bringing the project together isn't easy. And they have jobs and families too.

We do know they were in Chicago pre covid talking to several potential manufacturers. And I believe they considered setting up production in Jame's building.

I wish they'd keep us posted on progress, even if not much is happening.

I wish them every success in getting this project done so they can use the profits to get Pinball Circus out the door. James was a devoted friend to Python and that is where all this started. To honor his friend's legacy.

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Probably more than two decades.

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Understood.

I thought it worth mentioning because of James ramps were being made again after Williams closed. Not an easy task considering what he all had to do just to make that happen.

He's done a lot more. But the ramps were a great accomplishment to pinball.

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Compy Thank you for filling in where things are at. And what has gone one.

I appreciate all you and James and Paul are doing to make this project a success !

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Maybe because post 848 was a copy from a different posters post 844, which that poster deleted in a few minutes ?

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I was wondering why the exact copy of someone else's post ?

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https://www.circusmaximusgames.com/ was working on Kingpin to fund Python's Pinball Circus machine. Facebook page hasn't been updated since January 26, 2020.

Last I heard they spoke with several manufacturers about building them from their work, or they'd build them themselves. They have a large enough building.

Then covid hit and not much news since then.

I hope it happens so they can then do Python's game.

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Williams needed a game for after Cactus Canyon in case P2K wasn't ready yet. They had a white wood with some art work and Williams boards. Lyman working on software. P2K was ready to go so a Williams BBB stopped. The two games went to Mike Pacak, the disassembled one he made back into a Capcom BBB.

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At one point Circus Maximus was in Chicago checking with potential companies to make it, or they'd do it themselves. This was reported here on Pinside.

Post covid, there hasn't been much in the way of news.

I hope those involved are healthy. And then I hope this project moves forward.

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Glad they are saved. Hope they get used for games someday. Thank you !

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Truly amazing. Because he built them.

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At one point Gene had 183 working board sets, so that was what he was going to make.

The original Capcom ones I've heard different numbers. 10, 13, and 14.

At one time I could account for 8, not including the one lost in a fire.

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Head of the BBB design team has said three different numbers. 10, 13, and 14. There were a lot of games being played at Capcom, so there may never be an accurate number known.

From my digging, I doubt more than 10 total.

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Search his posts. You'll find some of his work there. An amazing person.

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He ain't Gene.

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As I recall the couple that were built. And I might not be 100% accurate. They used boards from other Capcom pins or found them. The rest they made themselves.

There is no stock pile of BBB or KP parts laying around. With the exception of BBB translites ( 3,000 ) and BBB drop target stickers ( likely 3,000 sets ).

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If you mean Gene Cunningham of Illinois Pin Ball that remade 183 BBB's, he died 3 or 4 years ago.

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Make a lot of them themselves. Look up the guy that made two Medieval Madness games ( finished right before the remakes were announced ). I think he made everything other than the translites.

Check out the Medieval Madness a guy made in a castle looking cabinet. Same thing. There are some very talented people out there.

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Breakshot has different unique boards in the head.

I suspect Airborns, Pinball Magic, and Flipper Football games were donors. If they didn't find spare boards. Maybe not now, but a lot of the boards were around a decade ago.

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The game they've had at shows had their own boards.

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Last I recall they were in Chicago meeting with various companies or would do it themselves.

Haven't heard anything post covid.

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I don't think bought. James already had a building they could use if need be.

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Me too. James did the ramps for years and was a friend of Python, who they started out wanting to do Pinball Circus to honor him.

I wish them nothing but the best success going forward !

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Do a search on Pinside, and then topics. A few threads going.

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