Quoted from transprtr4u:

Once you sell translight for spots, you have indirectly taken money for the hopes the games would be built!
2020 has been a crappy year for everyone , but someone from the team could update their status...
Even DeepRoot has pages of continuing thread...

Quoted from Compy:

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Now the meat and potatoes
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Last week I got some full playfield CADs and artwork printed on film and checked the scaling. This is basically the step I go through before I do whitewood cuts. I have to make sure things are to scale for the following:
1. Inserts. We have two options, we can either use original inserts, go with WMS/modern clear jewel style inserts, or just go full spooky and cut acrylic sheet. If you want RGB lighting, you have to use one of the last two options.
2. Mechs. This is a huge problem. Capcom engineered a lot of their own mechs. We can use WMS mechs with functioning EOS to cut down on the engineering/tooling costs and match the duty cycling as closely as possible to mimic the performance of the original game. With the longer ramp shots being in the center, I don't see this as much of an issue. (It would be an issue if the shot was at the end of the flipper bat)
4 bank drop targets - My vote and feedback I sent to the team is don't waste time engineering a 4 bank mech and use the stern equivalent if needed.
The gun handle - Getting tooling made for something like that really sucks because of the intricate detailing on the gun grip. These also have to be modeled in 3D and we have to outsource that. (I do all of my work in 2D... yeah, I know...)
Upper ball launch trough assembly - This was a completely custom part that will require a new weldment. It is similar to what was used on Diner.
Main ball trough assembly - I've subbed in footprints for traditional pinball life troughs. If push comes to shove, I have the footprints I used for the WMS troughs on Wizard Blocks.
Slot machine - Nothing too crazy there. At one point we considered stuffing an LCD there behind the plastics. But my personal opinion (and those of others) are that the mechanical reels are cooler.
Ramps - We've got the ramp king. Though new tooling has to be made.
Standup Targets - Capcom used custom opto targets. My vote is to replace these with common off the shelf standups. Better for us, better for you.
Ramp Spinners - Ok, these are really cool. They did use opto driven ramp spinners so the spinner has no friction against a microswitch or leaf assembly. With a bit of graphite, those spinners spin for days. This is easy replicate with a custom wire and a "C" style opto pair assembly like: https://www.pinballlife.com/ir-opto-sensor-high-sensitivity-4-leg.html
Pops - As you can see in one of the attached photos, 2 of the 3 mounting holes line up on the pop. My vote, again, is to switch to a standard WMS pop assembly, or the (better) Pinball Life single cut/mount solution like: https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-sterndata-eastsegacapcomalvin-gspookyheighway-thumper-bumper-housingbase.html
Cabinet - Capcom arguably had one of the nicest playfield slide/rail/cantilever systems out there. I would love to maintain this, but my vote (and what I shared with James and Paul) is to push and use a more typical WMS or even stern setup if it took more than a few weeks to come up with a solution.
Assembly - We've got several ideas about this. One thing I can say is that nobody on the team wants to set up a production line. We have multiple interested manufacturers, but it doesn't do much good to focus on "who" gets the gig yet until we have everything needed to build the darn thing.
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Quoted from Compy:

Cabinet - Capcom arguably had one of the nicest playfield slide/rail/cantilever systems out there. I would love to maintain this, but my vote (and what I shared with James and Paul) is to push and use a more typical WMS or even stern setup if it took more than a few weeks to come up with a solution.

Quoted from HydrogenHuman:

Don't know if anyone saw this on Knapp arcade today. Unfortunately, it being April 1st, this could be just a massive troll post. But according to Jason on Facebook it is not fake! Who knows who to believe on April Fool's, but exciting if true!
https://www.knapparcade.org/post/circus-maximus-and-kingpin-pinball-are-alive
"A number of people were critical of my last article about the Circus Maximus Kingpin project, saying that it didn't actually say anything about what was happening or that the project is completely dead, so I figured that I'd provide a quick Friday afternoon update for everyone. I recently was able to speak with Paul from Circus Maximus. I am very happy to report that not only is the Kingpin pinball project still alive, the Company is hoping to be able to share specific production plans at this year's upcoming Southern Fried Gaming Expo, which takes place in Atlanta from July 15th through 19th.
The team has been busy working on improving the game's production process by standardizing certain Capcom-specific parts to ones that are more readily available, such as the drop targets. They also have had to "go down some rabbit holes with getting some [parts] produced ourselves."
I'm pretty swamped today, but I wanted to take a second to share this fun news with everyone."

Quoted from jake35:

What I can't understand is
#1 why they would ghost the pinball community that supported them, and/or
#2 why not sell the assets to CGC or someone that will take over the project and finish it

Quoted from Warzard:

Got some infos but don’t hold your breath.
There is still no manufacturing contract none partnership for now.
A manufacturer is interested (guess who) and a discussion has been started but it stayed like this and that’s it. They need to start over the chat at an expo, if it will ever happen. They are not focused on that whatsoever because they want/prefer (i guess) do things themselves for some reasons and maybe keep the control over the project or maybe, they are just not ready.
If it stays like this, they have several more years of development (according to them, and we can believe it). They just got the original films from a private collector 2 weeks ago from nederlands who contacted them (thanks to him ! ) so I guess they’ll need to start over some of the work they have done already but it’s still a good thing.
Almost 5 years after, it still look like they were in the beginning of this dev. I understand building a pinball is hard. I can’t imagine this will go to the end without any solid partnership and/or someone taking over IMO but we’ll see. Since it’s really hard to get any solid infos because there is no more channel of communication (Pinside is avoided), this will be not be known after a while I guess.
This project was supposed to finance the PC project, so the PC project is still behind all this.

Quoted from AMSNL:

So let me chip in here
They didn’t get anything….. I own all the original films from playfield,cabinet,plastics,ramps,decals etc etc incl technical drawings and all hand drawn art from fukuoka
I contacted them to see how far this projects was and that I own all so maybe we could something going and get somewhere ,But communication is not great and been crickets since. Without my films and codes from paint it’s guessing what colors they used on all layers . Yes you can scan and color match on the proto playfields and remake the stickers on photoshop etc but that still don’t make it production exact
That’s all I can and will say about it

Quoted from Warzard:

Why avoiding Pinside? « Because people thinks they know but they don’t » that’s all I know.

Quoted from Warzard:

Got some infos but don’t hold your breath.
They just got the original films from a private collector 2 weeks ago from nederlands who contacted them (thanks to him ! )

Quoted from Warzard:

Not sure why you downvoted my post. I was answering to you with what I know that’s it. My english may not be perfect, sorry about it.

Quoted from AMSNL:

Lets all keep it friendly in here , we all in here want KP see the light of day.I think they informed him wrong and or the bragged about stuff I showed them. I’m willing to help but A not for free and B not for a project that is up for many years that at this moment leads nowhere…

Quoted from Warzard:

Yes. That was from CM, not from me.
There is a reason why they are no more posting. No big deal for that: i can understand.
I have more concern about the project itself going to the end.

Quoted from Miguel351:

I'm pretty sure the "there were 9 built, now 8 after the fire" thing is solely referring to Kingpin as they were all prototypes of different sorts. The BBB had way more built by Capcom, 14 or 15, I think. Then IPB started making the continuation BBB's and made like 120 or so. I've even heard tell of a prototype Capcom game built by B/W, just can't remember right now if it's BBB or Kingpin.

Quoted from Roostking:

From parts, or he is "Gene"?

Quoted from Roostking:

From parts, or he is "Gene"?

Point 1. Interesting and I have read part of that thread. I should finish it.
Point 2. Tom is badass!! Is there a thread on these builds???

Quoted from jake35:

Wonder how in the world someone can build a KP? How do they get the game specific parts made?

Quoted from LTG:

Breakshot has different unique boards in the head.
I suspect Airborns, Pinball Magic, and Flipper Football games were donors. If they didn't find spare boards. Maybe not now, but a lot of the boards were around a decade ago.
LTG : )

Quoted from Beechwood:

And another year until 2023, so there is that....

Quoted from Knapp_Arcade:

A possible sign that Circus Maximus has bailed and a new company is working on a Kingpin remake?
https://www.knapparcade.org/post/possible-evidence-that-a-different-company-is-now-working-on-a-capcom-pinball-kingpin-remake

Quoted from AMSNL:

As I told. And I will again. I own the all the original films, all original fukuoka drawings, I own the trademark and rights .I asked them to contact me and I was willing to help. Communications is a no go with these guys. And they tell people that they already have certain things without me even giving it to them….. so even if you go around me there are other reasons wy the game is not being made tho. They can make parts and all other things. So it should be a breeze if they made one. So where is the holdup … and if they don’t do it then yes maybe it’s time someone else makes it no hate here but all love to make the game

Quoted from AMSNL:

No worries I have all I need incl all US legal
If someone is willing to try me. I’m happy to provide all thru my lawyer
Again not here to have a pissing contest just here same as everybody else trying to get this game to daylight. I’m here to achieve that and if it can’t be don’t it’s a shame. If it’s CM or anybody else for that matter

Quoted from AMSNL:

This is wy you need original films. As scanning or vectoring is nice but will never be the same and if you don’t have the right color codes it will always be a hit and miss.same with plastics and translite there are 63 films for pf,plastics,cabinet, apron etc et.as I told CM I wanted to give my help and gain then acces to the films so they could finish there adventure. I had no responds to make this work so I don’t know if they where just blaming the playfield or that there where other issues .But now things have changed… and they have to come to me also for other things . They make there lives so much harder without it ever was a reason. I’m still open to them but I’m not reaching out so let’s see what happens in the upcoming year maybe I can speed my own progress up.
If anybody was wondering if this was fake news from my side .. I own the films and all fukuoka his original handdrawn art and the capcom papers and the trademark (that was not my plan to be revealed) haha
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Quoted from PinStalker:

How nice, Knapp checked it out...... that's pretty sweet.
So it's dead and buried (for years already). What a shame.
I think it's high time the peeps in this thread got together and made a game of our own: "Python's Ghost".
We'll add some Zing and some Bing..... that'll show Stern how it's done!!!!