I am also looking forward for this great project , but I see no game coming in 2020.
If there were pictures from a production line, parts in boxes, etc (like in the old days from DP and TBL) it would be believable that several machines will be build in 2020. But 2020 start in 3 weeks and I do not beliefe in more than 10 machines at the end of 2020.

But, however ... a great project and I hope to see a real machine in my gameroom. in pinball everything (like TBL, BBBr, Kingpin) will take its time.

Go on !!!

Does anybody know where are the 8 Kingpin´s ?

I guess the team from Circus Maximus has one, 2 are in pinball museums .... where are the others ?
On pictures I saw one machine with a "handdrawn" frontdecal. It was the machine from Gene Cunningham, it also had a pistol shooter rod instead the red button.

Would be nice to know.

Yes .. therefor 8 instead of 9 .

Very inspired by vegemite_nick I thought how to show the translite.

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That is vegemite_nick and in the video you see the awsome aussie machine

The translites are sold out.
But don´t worry .... to be honest .. the translites are much much too dark, whole areas are missing. They are not looking good !
If you compare with pictures from an original game you will see: Too dark, missing details, missing colors.
So a nice decoration and nice to have a KP number reserved, but not to illuminate ... mhhhh.

The translite is too dark ...

If you follow the history of Capcom, WMS bought all the rights and there are technical drawings from BigBangBar out with WMS or Williams on it.
Romours they that WMS was intrested to build BBB but they figured out that is will not be easy to adopt the way more modern Capcom pcb layout to WMS and its WPC hardware. Also the strongest William coil was not strong enough for the left ramp. But this might only be storys !

Whatever rebuild there will be in the future .... it will never be the same with all its Monitors, new hardware, RGB LED stuff, etc ....
If someone is intrested to rebuild KP, it is much much simpler and cheaper than making BBB remakes.

That is your opinion , not everybody will follow.
For me, at least no STERN or JJP is a killer game. BBB is for me a killer game. Would never swap with any existing Stern or JJP pinball.
But for sure, the modern games are deeper, looking brighter with all the LED stuff. But thats not all in pinball. Love to details, humor ... Also a nice Early can be a killer game.
Also for sure , KP software is not ready ! But I still would love to own this game.
But who do I tell ... you have a great collection of games !

Thanks for the warm words.
Yes, its me and PinBertl from Austria. We bought the translite from CMG and while we wait and wait , we decided to short cut and make a KP ourself.
We also made our own BBB , so we had some experience in converting one Capcom pin to an other Capcom pin.
Our project is working expect the gun mechanism under the playfield, this will be the last task. But to be honest, it is much easier to build one machine on the original CPU than starting from the scratch with P-Roc, etc, pp

We were inspired by this thread:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/welcome-to-the-big-city-kid/page/3#post-7009410
Please all discusions about scratchbuilds in this thread.

And yes, there were several small roadblocks, specially making a playfield with only pictures.

But now: back to topic !

I am glad to have a autographed translite as a souvenir and a playable KP in my gamroom.
Yes, the missing communication is , at least for me, the onliest thing I miss. If the project is death ... okay. But let us know.

My secret sources told me that it is not dead and looking for an other companie to build the KP ... but that is just a secret sources rumour. It should be the job of CMG to communicate.

My first succesfull try was a BBBr. This took me 5 years.
Than I have read about Nicks crazy projects and had a competent instructor :

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/welcome-to-the-big-city-kid/page/3#post-7163906

Due to the BBBr experiences and connections, many many help from friends and pinheads all over the world I could do a rebuild on a little more professional way.
Deepdrawed ramps, 1 wireramps, lamp pcb´s, etc.

But this thread here is an other topic and I am still looking forward for the "real KP project".

I have mine for some month now ... you are late

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If you read a lot on pinside you will figure out ...
If you search for KP cabinett you will also find the answer ...

Thank you Lloyd !!

No, I am just Tom

The Hotel Lex is the smaller problem. We got it 100% to work, better than Capcoms original !
The trick is, Capcom used a passive EMI motor controller board. We used an active which stopps perfectly even after several uses of the slot, specially in modes with Mizzy it is used a lot.
Tha harder part is the "GUN mechanism" underneath the playfield which kickks the balls in multiball on the playfield through a large flap like on Centaur. This mechanism is still missing on mine.
Mike got it working but the balls will not turn the outer loop powerfull. So this is my ongoing project.

If you read the other thread , as Isochronic_Frost stated, the cabinet is different and, as LTG stated .. the boardset is different. Also the transformer is missing 2 x 50 Volt due BS has a general illumination and not all lamps controlled.

Flipper Football the cabinett is perfect, boards are perfect but the cables are very short and all connected with plugs.
Mike started from the scratch and used rest parts and just for testing a Airborne Cabinet. Great work !
I started my projects with a full machine. So wiring harnesses was not that problem.

But I think we should talking about Mikes and my project shift over to the other thread ... this is the KP remake thread about the CMG remake.

I am a 100% fan of Capcoms build quality !

Many mechanics are made of stainless steel.
On some machines the ballguides are made from stainless steel in high gloss quality.
The whole mechanic for the flippers is very very massive and powerfull compared to all competitors, in history and today.
The menu system and diagnostics were in the old days a milestone ! Drivers were protected against over power, shortening a row of the lamp matrix or switch cables (mo matrix!) did not destroy anything.
The selftest menu gives you more informations than any others manufacturer system in this days. Capcom was the better WMS !

If I have a look on my Pinball magic, the machine which was the first Capcom pinball on the market .. it is very high quality build and I am sure they pumped a lot of money in their first machine to place it on the marked.
They did not spend millions for brands, names, moviethemes, etc .... all pins were "free designs". The straight gameplan on PM and AB ... you love or hate it. With BBB this straightness was canceled. BBB is for me one of the best pinball machines ever. PM is the better ToM, at least for me.

For the KPr
There are pictures and videos from CMG prototype. So you can see that they work with new technologie , pc based and rgb-leds. A modern tft monitor instead of a DMD. They adopted the software to the new system, and there was no other way to do so.
There are 2 beta versions for KP out. Both have missing parts and some bugs. The "better" software just will not support a tilt mechanism as far as I know.
On many scenes while playing KP there are animations missing and just the score is displayed. The "powermeter mode" is too short and ends too abrupt.
If I start a mission on ball one and the ball gets lost, ball 2 is served and I am still in the game mode. This seems to me a bug.
So CMG has to rewrite and finsih the software.
Hopefully they will kepp the "dot style" , I dont like a monitor on this machine but I fully understand that there is a need for new hardware.
I also heard rumors that there are problems with the slotmachine and there are plans to use also a monitor/display instead of a slot reel. I hope they will not do so. On my Kingpin the slotreel is working perfect, better than on the original prototypes. If CMG ask me, they will get all support they need and they know that.
To be honest, we also got help from 1 fellow but communication was most time a oneway.
The modern sytems give great chances for animations, gamecode and sound in outstanding quality. I love playing Alien (HW) and TBL and also my last buy, LOV is great.
One point I never understand: In the 80s and 90s it was possible to run a pinball with very small amounts of data. Today a softwareinstallation is several hunderd megabytes, the system have a lot of random acees memory but need minutes to boot. All my Capcoms booting within seconds. So this is also a secret of the new technologies

Here we go.
Kingpin 2.0 is ready for sale:

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Pulp what ??

Right now I have the feeling that several manufacturer spy out some trailers to block "pinball collectors" spending money on competitors pinball machines.
With the actaul desaster that so far not one CCr made it to Europe , I see a long long way gor PF. Maybe better we do not talk about it right now
But yes, it will be a nice pin but "old school layout" is not really competitive with actual titles.
Even AP presented its upcoming pin right now.

I see KP will also take a time longer to show up.

Just my 2 cents

Playfield ?? Playfield !!

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God ..... what ??