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Kingpin
Capcom, 1996-
Kingpin (Remake)
Circus Maximus, 2018
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The cab art/coloring was always spectacular.
Glad to see Mark Ritchie get another great game in more people’s hands.
Does this mean we’ll see Orange County Choppers next? Fingers crossed! 
Quoted from rockrand:I always thought the code needed to be cracked and that is very hard?
Technology seems to be moving forward....
Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
It’s ok.
Like Big Bang Bar is ok. That isn’t worth $15,000 because it’s a great game either. Sure is pretty though ...
Maybe get some gametime in on KP before you order, is the point I’m trying to make.
Actually, that’s sage advice for any game. 
rd
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I'm excited such a rare game will be out there to be played more for sure, but agree BBB isn't the greatest playing game.
I'm looking forward to finally playing one of these. Hopefully. one day.
In my opinion the proposed LE version looks awful. I don't think this artwork is really gonna work on a newer game (there's a reason nobody has hired DC to do art for a pinball since about 1977) but I guess I could be wrong.
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
It’s ok.
Like Big Bang Bar is OK. That isn’t worth $15,000 because it’s a great game either. Sure is pretty though ...
Maybe get some gametime in on KP before you order, is the point I’m trying to make.
Actually, that’s sage advice for any game.
rd
Wait!, what! Let me get this straight, your saying that we should play a game before we plunk down $8000+ for it? That's crazy talk!
Quoted from Concretehardt:Wait!, what! Let me get this straight, your saying that we should play a game before we plunk down $8000+ for it? That's crazy talk!
Advanced concept huh?
I know lots of Pinside has lots of money to burn ... but I do scratch my head sometimes when I see “xxx machine, only 20 plays, just like new!” come up for sale. A little bit of due diligence would have saved the hassle, and the financial loss ...
rd
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
I'm not lining up to buy one, but hopefully it'll end up in circulation in the Denver area and I'll get to put a few games on one someday. That will probably never happen if remakes don't get made.
Quoted from rotordave:I know lots of Pinside has lots of money to burn ... but I do scratch my head sometimes when I see “xxx machine, only 20 plays, just like new!” come up for sale. A little bit of due diligence would have saved the hassle, and the financial loss ...
rd
It might be more aboot the ability to resell a game. I bought GB without playing it and it sucked, so I sold it quick, didn't really cost me much.
Quoted from TheLaw:It might be more aboot the ability to resell a game. I bought GB without playing it and it sucked, so I sold it quick, didn't really cost me much.
That’s true. Up till now, people haven’t been taking a hit.
However now, I think most LEs are down $500 straight out of the box, if the model isn’t a huge sell out success ....
So those 20 games are going to cost $25 per each. That’s a pricey pinball game ...
rd
Quoted from rotordave:now, I think most LEs are down $500 straight out of the box, if the model isn’t a huge sell out success ....
So those 20 games are going to cost $25 per each. That’s a pricey pinball game ...
What about $480 for the unboxing experience and the giddy feeling of having a brand new, $8k machine in your house for a month or two, and $20 for the 20 games? Not my bag, necessarily, but I imagine that would work out for some folks.
Maple Ridge, BC
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
It’s ok.
Like Big Bang Bar is ok. That isn’t worth $15,000 because it’s a great game either. Sure is pretty though ...
Maybe get some gametime in on KP before you order, is the point I’m trying to make.
Actually, that’s sage advice for any game.
rd
This is spot on. Super cool theme but gameplay gets boring fast. Maybe with some deeper rules it might be better but it’s just an average game that’s rare right now. Go to cax and play it firsthand if you are curious.
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
It’s ok.
Like Big Bang Bar is ok. That isn’t worth $15,000 because it’s a great game either. Sure is pretty though ...
Maybe get some gametime in on KP before you order, is the point I’m trying to make.
Actually, that’s sage advice for any game.
rd
I love Big Bang Bar, so if it's as good as that then I'm in. Well assuming it isn't sold as a 15k+ pin of course. Having said that I will play it first before committing any cash. Art package and theme work for me, so now gameplay is all that remains to make the sale.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:I'm looking forward to finally playing one of these. Hopefully. one day.
In my opinion the proposed LE version looks awful. I don't think this artwork is really gonna work on a newer game (there's a reason nobody has hired DC to do art for a pinball since about 1977) but I guess I could be wrong.
EXACTLY. The LE backglass from last year is TERRIBLE, and the game isn't "King Pin" it's "Kingpin". They supposedly have access to the original artist, so why not let him do the LE one? Dave Christensen's style simply doesn't match this game's existing art AT ALL.
AWESOME ORIGINAL BACKGLASS
kingpin_backglass_sml (resized).jpg
SAD Dave Christensen LE backglass that doesn't match the existing style at ALL. Wrong "King Pin" naming carried to the proto LE cabinet art.
kingpin-le (resized).jpg
For those of you up here at the Texas Pinball Festival this year, come by our booth and play the development machine we put together. Ask any questions you want, and come to our seminar Saturday at noon and we'll talk about the process of building this game! Lunch will be provided.
Quoted from rockrand:Why can kingpin be remade with a p-roc and not BBB,I always thought the code needed to be cracked and that is very hard?
I developed the emulation bridge to the P-ROC that allows you to run the latest original Capcom Kingpin code on P3-ROC hardware, which is how this game runs. The original Capcom boards had a custom ASIC that was generally the issue with production. Most other components on the boards were standard. Due to lack of availability and advancements in technology, it made sense to redesign the system. I can confirm that BBB also runs on our platform.
-- Jimmy
Quoted from PinMonk:EXACTLY. The LE backglass from last year is TERRIBLE, and the game isn't "King Pin" it's "Kingpin". They supposedly have access to the original artist, so why not let him do the LE one? Dave Christensen's style simply doesn't match this game's existing art AT ALL.
Then don't order any of Dave's art package. Order one with all original art.
Quoted from Compy:Then don't order any of Dave's art package. Order one with all original art.
I would like an LE that's an upgrade, not a downgrade. Put Dave's on the standard instead and watch the sales of the LE versions with original art blow up.
Quoted from Compy:Then don't order any of Dave's art package. Order one with all original art.
So we are only allowed to critique stuff we are buying?
That’s a new one around here.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:So we are only allowed to critique stuff we are buying?
That’s a new one around here.
My apologies. I certainly didn't mean for it to come off that way. I was saying that both will be available I can see how the brevity would lead to that misunderstanding.
Quoted from Compy:My apologies. I certainly didn't mean for it to come off that way. I was saying that both will be available I can see how the brevity would lead to that misunderstanding.
Thanks for getting this out to the masses! I ordered my Translite this morning just to get in as a early adopter!! I dig the original art as well
Orange
Quoted from Marcdaddy:Thanks for getting this out to the masses! I ordered my Translite this morning just to get in as a early adopter!! I dig the original art as well
Couldn't agree more! Love the original art package, I think it is a really cohesive package! Can't wait to work on more of the game!
Quoted from DMC:Get your t-shirts now from
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Awesome, but not $28 worth of awesome.
Quoted from Marcdaddy:Thanks for getting this out to the masses! I ordered my Translite this morning just to get in as a early adopter!! I dig the original art as well
Gotta have original translite
Where you can order ?
Quoted from rvdv:Gotta have original translite
Where you can order ?
Her you go..
http://www.circusmaximusgames.com/product/kingpin-signed-limited-edition-translite
I personally think purely as a game that Kingpin is better than Big Bang Bar. No Capcom has amazing rules, they're a product of their era, but it's more interesting for sure.
Quoted from Aurich:I personally think purely as a game that Kingpin is better than Big Bang Bar. No Capcom has amazing rules, they're a product of their era, but it's more interesting for sure.
Played kingpin many times and really liked it
Much better imo then BBB
Quoted from rotordave:Guys, I don’t want to burst your bubble ... I see most of the excitement is from guys who haven’t played it.
I’ll give you the tip. It isn’t $50,000 because it’s a super great game.
It’s ok.
Like Big Bang Bar is ok. That isn’t worth $15,000 because it’s a great game either. Sure is pretty though ...
Maybe get some gametime in on KP before you order, is the point I’m trying to make.
Actually, that’s sage advice for any game.
rd
I have played king pin and have been collecting for a long time and let me say this king pin is a Mark Ritchie classic and easily a top ten game of all time; it’s a flow monster with some killer wizard modes. I can’t wait
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