Arvada, CO
nice setup!
do you do anything to prevent pythium?
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To try and avoid root rot I use H2O2 and small amounts of Calcium Hypochlorite. I also do frequent reservoir changes. Spider mites and root aphids are a WAY bigger issue for me. It's a long story, but those things are pure evil!!
I am looking into getting my own place in a few months then I can start growing in earnest. I always wanted to try my hand at gardening, and yes there will be tomatoes too as well as some kick ass peppers, and blue dream.
My grandpa is laughing his ass off somewhere to hear all this. But my grandpa never had this California sun!
Regina, SK
Quoted from PW79:Is it cost effective to grow your own vs purchase from a dispensary?
Or is it more of a hobby type thing?
Quoted from PW79:Is it cost effective to grow your own vs purchase from a dispensary?
Or is it more of a hobby type thing?
The first grow pays for all the equipment and then some. Nutrients are your biggest expense. A 600w hps only bumps your lighting bill a bit and still enough light to grow a nice garden (4' × 6' box) Nutrients depending on brand maybe $100/month. You should average a pound per cycle (12 weeks) or somewhere in the 0.5 to 1 gram/watt mark.
I don't know anywhere you can buy a pound for around $315.00
WAY cheaper to grow your own!
Quoted from PW79:Is it cost effective to grow your own vs purchase from a dispensary?
Or is it more of a hobby type thing?
For me it has been expensive. I suppose it depends on how much you want to spend for equipment. I do intend to break even at some point, but that will probably be a while off still.
Here's a pic of some of my supplies. Not pictured is a fairly large carbon filter, 400 watt mh bulb for veg, inline fans, more nutrients and 2 air cooled tubes with batwing domes (garage). I use 5 gallon pots with promix. I used to do rockwool but i like to spend a 1/2 hr per day watering and pruning/maintaining my garden. I built a 4 x 8 box with open front, mylar on sides and back. 1 600 retrofit hps and 1 400 hps with air cooled hoods. Basically no heat so no need for air conditioning. 1 standup fan blowing straight at plants. 50 pint dehumidifier (already had, $200cdn). Vent everything out the main sewer line in basement. We have equalized electricity bills and power went up under $100/year for 3 grows/cycles per year.
Total cost of equipment minus nutrients was around $1300 cdn. First yield was just over 2 lbs and that included some hazes which typically produce less.
Its all fun amd games until your outsourced clones come in with spider mites.
That will shut you down for a good year.
Growing with a license is a pain here. You have to sign off that the police can stop by any time to check and be sure you only have the number of plants you are allowed.
Quoted from vid1900:The Prison Industrial Complex would lose too much money.
14.9% of your tax dollars goes to some segment of the PIC, and it's about to grow A LOT larger.
Yea... I wanted to post this news without falling too deep into my political views. I know a similar attempt failed in 2015. I'm not overly optimistic this time around either. Legal or not, I would love to see it handled at the state level instead of federal
Quoted from loppydog:I use H2O2 and small amounts of Calcium Hypochlorite
Please tell me more about the quantities you use (per gallon). I used chlorine in my last batch. But for me, with pythium, I am always fighting the clock. I use enough clorine to offset it and to last until harvest. I have a bottle of the strong h2o2. Does that stuff expire?
Quoted from BMHouze:Its all fun amd games until your outsourced clones come in with spider mites. That will shut you down for a good year.
That's why I like to grow in the winter, so my grow rooms get to about 58F when the lights are not on. Spider mites do not like the cooler temps. I have gotten mites before, never did I ever lose a crop to them. Neem oil products will slow them down. Mighty-Wash too. The main product I use to slow them down to a crawl is Azamax. I time it so I can nuke them really good just before flowering, so that I don't have to really spray during flowering. Here where I grow, you cannot trust anybody with new clones. I always pre-treat and nuke my new clones, just in case. In the mid-west here, Spider Mites are prolific and you have to plan for them.
Quoted from Delta9:Wait till u get broad mites your gonna have so much fun
Like I said, it's part of growing in dry, hot climates. It's not a show-stopper.
My reservoir is about 10-15 gallons and i add about a cap full or two of the 29% stuff once a week or so depending on if it starts to smell a little. I don't think it expires. But frankly the H2O2 doesn't seems to have much affect compared to the calcium hypochlorite. That stuff seems to keep the res sterile. It Is labeled as pool shock and can be found at box stores or spa/pool shops. I cant remember the exact recipe right now but can post it later.
Quoted from loppydog:but can post it later
Yes, please!
Here is the recipe I use. I make a half gallon concentrate at a time.
3 grams Calcium Hypoclorite to 1/2 gallon water makes the concentrate. I then add 1 Tsp per 5 gallons to the reservoir. I do this about once a week or so. If you still get root rot, I would add more/more often. Your res should never smell "funky". Earthy is OK though.
BTW this bag cost $4 and would last a VERY long time 
Quoted from Bendit:Like I said, it's part of growing in dry, hot climates. It's not a show-stopper.
You have no idea what im talking about
Quoted from loppydog:Here is the recipe I use. I make a half gallon concentrate at a time.
3 grams Calcium Hypoclorite to 1/2 gallon water makes the concentrate. I then add 1 Tsp per 5 gallons to the reservoir. I do this about once a week or so. If you still get root rot, I would add more/more often. Your res should never smell "funky". Earthy is OK though.
BTW this bag cost $4 and would last a VERY long time
Yuk yuk yuk your putting that in your plant for root rot disgusting
Quoted from Delta9:You have no idea what im talking about
Then don't take my word for it. I'm not saying mites are OK. I'm just saying you can spray for 'em and delay them enough to flower. It still sucks.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-broad-mites
"However, if you get desparate treating plants daily with Neem oil is very effective at killing broad mites when nothing seems to be working."
Azamax is a neem oil product. I already posted about it just above this thread. Also this article mentions Mighty Wash, as I previously posted also.
I don't pretend to know everything, but I have grown enough to have been hit by spider mites and have never lost a plant to them. Now, I also did get hit with pythium once, and lost a plant to it. But I was inexperienced with the concept at the time...
Quoted from loppydog:Here is the recipe I use. I make a half gallon concentrate at a time.
Thank you so much! I will research this. Cheers!
Quoted from Bendit:Then don't take my word for it. I'm not saying mites are OK. I'm just saying you can spray for 'em and delay them enough to flower. It still sucks.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-broad-mites
"However, if you get desparate treating plants daily with Neem oil is very effective at killing broad mites when nothing seems to be working."
Azamax is a neem oil product. I already posted about it just above this thread. Also this article mentions Mighty Wash, as I previously posted also.
I don't pretend to know everything, but I have grown enough to have been hit by spider mites and have never lost a plant to them. Now, I also did get hit with pythium once, and lost a plant to it. But I was inexperienced with the concept at the time...
You have no clue im not taking your word for it cuz i know better good luck
Quoted from Azmodeus:With growing supplies, is the best place to get them find a local supplier or is there an online go to best place for all supplies?
Imo better to support a local business. Hands on help and support the local economy. Plus no risk/paper trail or shady tactics of shipping companies providing addresses to authorities. If I have to drive 3 hrs just to get a bulb and 3 hours back, I'm ok with that. Oh, and never have equipment shipped to the house where plants are grown.
Quoted from Delta9:Yuk yuk yuk your putting that in your plant for root rot disgusting
This is the same stuff that is in your drinking water lol. I always get a chuckle when someone gets bent out of shape any time anyone mentions a chemical. Sodium Chloride!! You put that on your food!!!
Sana'a
Make sure you pay cash for everything, or if you HAVE to buy some item online, use a prepaid Visa card that you bought for cash.
Don't ship anything to your actual address.
Now that everything is illegal again, you don't want to be on any lists of any kind.
Look at the people busted for buying Indian reservation tax-free cigarettes with their credit cards - we've got to keep the prisons filled if we kick out all the bad hombres.
Quoted from vid1900:Now that everything is illegal again, you don't want to be on any lists of any kind.
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What laws have changed that "everything is illegal again"? Or are you making up Fake News? Be honest please. Thank you. The world is not ending and the sky is not falling. No Bad Days, All Good. Dp and chill.
Quoted from BenetBoy78:What laws have changed that "everything is illegal again"? Or are you making up Fake News? Be honest please. Thank you. The world is not ending and the sky is not falling. No Bad Days, All Good. Dp and chill.
This was all over the news last week, you've got to keep current.
Trump got rid of Obama's order that the feds not engage in enforcement in States that allow recreational Marijuana.
http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/27/how-trumps-doj-can-start-enforcing-federal-marijuana-law/
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/white-house-marijuana-donald-trump-pot/index.html
Faux News too:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/24/federal-crackdown-on-legal-weed-coming.html
Quoted from vid1900:This was all over the news last week, you've got to keep current.
Trump got rid of Obama's order that the feds not engage in enforcement in States that allow recreational Marijuana.
http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/27/how-trumps-doj-can-start-enforcing-federal-marijuana-law/
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/white-house-marijuana-donald-trump-pot/index.html
Faux News too:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/24/federal-crackdown-on-legal-weed-coming.html
I don't see any law that has changed, yet. But I miss stuff all the time. 
Things may change, but lets hope its with Congress to change it from a drug Class with opiates to a class more aligned with medicine. I believe Old Spicer indicated in the USA Today that Pres Trump cant change congress law of allowing MJ for medicinal purposes, so only recreational MJ looks like it, could be, possible, but not yet have the rec law changed. I could be wrong, but I have a med card, so personally no worries, no bad days.
Quoted from BenetBoy78:I could be wrong, but I have a med card, so personally no worries, no bad days.
That reads very selfish.
Pot should be legal for everybody; teens, adults, the sick and the healthy.
But you can only keep the prisons filled when you start enforcing the federal laws again in the legal states....
Quoted from vid1900:That reads very selfish.
Pot should be legal for everybody; teens, adults, the sick and the healthy.
But you can only keep the prisons filled when you start enforcing the federal laws again in the legal states....
We agree to disagree. No Bad Days. All good.
Prisons are state run and states have a obligation or contract to incarcerate a certain number of people to fill the prisons and this is a law they have used to do it.
I hope we will not keep repeating this mistake.
RVH
Edit- prisons are maby privately run. But the state dose have a obligation to fill them. I'm not really an expert.
Quoted from vid1900:1/3 of our inmates are locked up for marijuana.
I cannot believe we are paying tax dollars for this!
End rant. 
Quoted from BenetBoy78:We agree to disagree. No Bad Days. All good.
There are plenty of bad days for people, mostly minorities, getting locked up on bullshit marijuana charges. I'm assuming you're white - so am I - so we get away with a lot of shit. 'Ol dude or dudette that wants to spark a joint in the hood or la raza might not be so lucky, and those are the people I fear for.
Love me some uk cheese.
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Got a sweet 4-pak today... Dutch lady, cheese, grape god, & some white widow! Mmmm Dutch lady is the early favourite!
March 22, 1975 was another good day, as I was a sophomore at Benet Academy, Lisle IL in art class as my only option other than typing. The fact I graduated is amazing!! So much so I go by BenetBoy78..LOL! Way too many stories, but pics tell a story...
Naperville IL had a record shop known as Blue Skies Records and Tapes where there had a head shop with "cool" stuff including a Ceramic Owl Ice Bong. I didn't have any money back in the early '70's (I made $5.00 to caddy 18 holes every Saturday) in those days and bought vinyl, and also, the bong was too bulky and heavy to hide under our coats to steal, so I made one. After it came out of the Kiln, Sister Paul asked me what the carb hole was for, and I told her it was a method I was investigating on how to aerate the False Aralia plant roots better as it grew in the " ceramic owl pot". Her response. "Ohhhh.... that's nice." Still laughing..... I can only hope Sister Paul is laughing too!!
I've had moon rocks and sprinkle it in the flower grinder for that extra oomph. The weed is so dang good now, but I always go for high thc.
A question for the group.
I need the munchies. I have extreme nausea and dizziness. Nothing makes me hungry now. I can only work out, then get hungry, but I do not hunger. It's strange. Food no longer motivates me in any way.
That said what can make me feel better is now the thing that makes you hungry. I was hungry once. I no longer get the munchies, ever, never... Due to my surgeries.
Is there a strain that makes you guys just hungry as f. That's the one I need. Indicas work best, but I'm looking for that special hunger inducing strain now. Thanks.
Quoted from Azmodeus:Is there a strain that makes you guys just hungry as f. That's the one I need. Indicas work best, but I'm looking for that special hunger inducing strain now. Thanks.
You may find what you are looking for on Leafly.com. You can probably do a search for that effect.
Quoted from Azmodeus:I've had moon rocks and sprinkle it in the flower grinder for that extra oomph. The weed is so dang good now, but I always go for high thc.
A question for the group.
I need the munchies. I have extreme nausea and dizziness. Nothing makes me hungry now. I can only work out, then get hungry, but I do not hunger. It's strange. Food no longer motivates me in any way.
That said what can make me feel better is now the thing that makes you hungry. I was hungry once. I no longer get the munchies, ever, never... Due to my surgeries.
Is there a strain that makes you guys just hungry as f. That's the one I need. Indicas work best, but I'm looking for that special hunger inducing strain now. Thanks.
Og kush will make you hungry like theirs no tomorrow
Quoted from PW79:To be honest I don't think the fed will get involved.
IMO it's all talk. Just like Obama closing Guantanamo.
Sometimes ya just gotta put on a tie & tell old conservative people shit they want to hear.
I have to laugh at this. I and many people I know are conservative and we think it is ridiculous for pot to be illegal. It puts people in jail for a stupid reason and it allows cartels and drug runners to run criminal empires and make fortunes. Make it legal and free up our prisons and allow Americans to make money off of it and the states to raise tax money off of it so they might leave me the fuck alone when they need more money for something stupid. I see weed as FAR less destructive and dangerous than alcohol which destroys many, many lives and families. My Father died from Budweiser poisoning. Many of our filthy rich families in America made their fortunes bootlegging alcohol. As I have said before, I am not a conservative that thinks the Dems are all wrong and the Republicans are all right. I despise and distrust the government at all levels. Most are pawns of big business and are corrupt as hell.
Quoted from dirkdiggler:Johnny looks stressed. Think he needs a toke.
He ain't gonna remember shit now!
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