I wanted some opinions and thoughts on a transaction, as I'm about to cancel a sale and don't want to think I'm being a dbag (really don't think I'm being unreasonable at all). But it's been lingering, and the time for some type of action has come.

The skinny: I listed a game a while back, guy responded in Canada, said he really wanted the game and committed to buy. My ad indicated that I was trying to free up space (and I have actually brought home several more games since the sale was agreed upon).

7/16 - Guy committed to buy.

7/23 - First payment made.

8/1 - I told him OK to arrange shipping, even before paid in full.

8/3 - He paid second payment via PayPal. Said he would make shipping arrangements within a couple days. Even though I needed the space and had several other offers locally to pick the game up for full price, I knocked $100 off to help him with shipping costs. I also said due to game going to Canada...I could hold it for a few weeks if he needed me to while the arrangements were made. Intermittent contact for next two weeks, then nothing.

9/16 - Month and a half later. Reach out again. He says lack of contact from shipper. He'll get on it. No further contact again for almost a month.

10/7 - I reach out again, telling him I really need the space at this point, sale happened 3 months ago and he paid 2 months ago, asking if he just wants refund. Responds saying he still wants the game, but still a "problem with shipping company" and they now need to "use another agent" over the border. Ask him to make arrangements ASAP and let me know.

10/21 - No contact for two weeks. I reach out again, now telling him the process is taking way long, and to let me know arranagements for shipping ASAP. Throw out that I'm thinking of just refunding his money and selling to one of the other 25 people that responded to the ad.

10/22 - He responds. Still wants the game. Said he will call STI tomorrow.

10/28 - No contact again. I reach out, tell him it's been another week and I haven't heard anything.

10/30 - He responds two days later, saying he "is going to call NAVL instead". Advises his "broker" is wondering what delay is, as "they have to do customs entry on it". He will get back to me later.

11/9 - No contact at all from him since. No indication WHATSOEVER as to when this thing might be picked up.

I shipped a game to Germany a little over a year ago, and I had that done within two weeks (palleted and wrapped as well).

Ok to cancel the sale at this point? The deal wasn't for me to hold the game for 4+ months. I've done deals like that before, but that was part of the initial arrangement. This guy knew from the beginning that I was trying to free up space, and didn't want to store this game long-term.

I like to think I have a decent rep when it comes to buying and selling, so I didn't want to refund the money then get bashed for being some type of ass. Anybody agree that canceling the transaction and refunding at this point is perfectly reasonable?

Any input is appreciated.

Yeah, that’s my thinking. There have been several messages with “hey I haven’t heard from you”, and with him saying “sorry I’ll make the arrangements ASAP.” Yet it’s still sitting here.

I know what it’s like to really want a game, but I think I’ve been more than patient. If he was within 200 or 300 miles, I would even offer to deliver it for less than what a shipping company would charge.

At this point, need space for other games sitting in my garage with the cold weather coming, and just doesn’t seem there’s any end in sight.

I’ve asked several times just to be kept updated, and I’ve done that when I’ve bought games that I had shipped. Even if there was a slight delay for some reason, the seller was kept way in the loop.

Berserk... you ever had severe delays with shipping? Any substantial delays with going into Canada? Just want to know for future reference.

I tried to be accommodating given that he paid relatively quickly, but just thought it’s been oddly sitting here ever since.

Already did. I could’ve arranged it within a week. Something just seems off.

I’ve seen him bring home and sell other games since we did the deal for this one too.

It was decent. I’ll probably just reach out to others that had responded. It’s a nice Captain Fantastic early production pin.

Thanks for the feedback.

Good to know...thanks for the info. This was my first time shipping an actual game north across the border....well, it was supposed to be.

WTF? How am I at fault here? The guy really wanted the game, and unlike some people that never even hold a game for a week for somebody, I thought I was being courteous and giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I’ve shipped plenty of games I’ve bought and sold. This won’t deter me from shipping altogether. Next time there is just a definitive time restriction on it getting picked up, and most likely some type of non-refundable deposit.

Honestly, I’ve done that twice already with a date certain. Both times his response was “I will get on it tomorrow.” Then I don’t hear from him for a week or two at all, if not longer.

In his mild defense, he did offer “some type of storage fee”, but that was over a month ago. I told him I didn’t want more money, I wanted the game gone. I was very blunt about it. Yet it’s still here.

I’m not sure I’m going to drag this out any longer. Thanks for all the input from everyone though, I appreciate it.

He asked to break it up into two payments, which I had no problem with. Second made it the full amount. And I agree. Every time I buy a pin from a distance, I’m all over the shipping company to get it done ASAP.

I remember that fiasco. It wasn’t Diablo on my transaction. Looks like that guy hasn’t been on here since September 5.

I don't have a clue what to do? Foolish? Embarrassed to post it? Another meaningless post from you, as I'm used to seeing. There is nothing "desperate" about anything. It's a mint early production Captain Fantastic with a nearly flawless playfield (other than very minute insert wear in a location or two), a beautiful cab and a brand new backglass. At this point mulling it over, I'm actually torn on just keeping the game and letting a friend babysit it vs. relisting it or reaching out to others that were interested.

I see quite a few games in your collection history, and I've owned and sold quite a few myself. Regardless, I care about my buying and selling reputation in this hobby. There's a lot of shysters unfortunately, and I never want to be considered one of them. I simply wanted some input from fellow hobbyists before canceling a sale, which I've never had to do before. The buyer is a Pinsider, and I didn't feel like seeing a thread pop up saying "Colson's an asshole" after refunding the money, if the consensus differed from my thoughts on the matter.

Unlike your questionable posts constantly criticizing others, I actually respect most of the people and their opinions on here, even those that don't share my views on certain topics. So I asked for input, like the initial post said.

Good to know for the future. Thanks for the info.

It was actually a didgeridoo

I already PM'd him about 15 min ago and canceled the transaction, was a little pissy about it in light of the contradictory info I was given by STI and NAVL when I called myself, and told him his refund is on the way.

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.games.pinball/__6UtsIt12s

I had listed it for 1500, but was a little flexible.

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LMAO. Here’s the actual pics. There is a little nip to the left of the bottom pop bumper that was touched up.
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I also grabbed this out of a lovely dark basement, so it’s the brightest colors I’ve ever seen on a CF. Not faded one bit.

As it said in the ad, the cabinet colors were reversed on the first 100 or 200 produced. Front of the cab is red primarily, instead of blue.

Found a few more.

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Different now that I look at IPDB...missing the red outlines. Maybe switched out at some point? I always thought it was a little faded, but never even thought to look or consider maybe it wasn’t the original apron.

Shit, damn game is worthless now. Maybe I’ll just be placing a want ad instead to see if anybody has a minty original apron.

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Relisted

SOLD!

Machine - For Sale

Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy Archived

Partially shopped/refurbished - “Early production Capt. Fantastic. Cab is unfaded in excellent condition, a few minor scrapes which I might tend to. Playfield is also very nice, with only one tiny spot of wear nea...”

2018-11-11

Langhorne, PA

Colsond3

1,500 (OBO)

Archived after: 5 days

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Status: Sold (amount private)

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Hahaha...after all the stress with this game, I needed to make a joke. I was waiting for the “WTF?” post.

CF sold and picked up yesterday by a cool Pinsider. Thanks for all of the input and interest. Refund is on its way to first “buyer”.

Haha...good eye Jeff. I didn’t even realize that stool was under there.