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The Canadian Pinhead Thread. What's Up?!

By Jeekayjay

5 years ago

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    #67 5 years ago

    The real question for the Canadian market is:

    When the dollar does bounce back, will our pins lose value?

    Say the dollar comes back down to 10%. A new pro at 5K usd, would be $5500 cad. Will they still sell for $7k otd?

    #74 5 years ago
    Quoted from frolic:

    As much as people like to blame Playdium for the US$ rising and our prices with it, every time I compare their prices with what someone in the states is getting it for, it works out the same once you convert the dollar and factor in sales tax.
    Otherwise it would be worthwhile to drive to the states and bring a game home, but the only way that ever works is if someone tries to cheat the tax, and that has nothing to do with Playdium.

    I think you completely misunderstood my point.

    But lets use SB. They say you can pay is USD if you choose to. So they base their pricing on the exchange. If the exchange turns up in our favor do you believe they will lower their prices?

    And if they do, would it not upset the buyers who bought when the dollar was shit?

    2 weeks later
    #169 5 years ago

    Why does it take 4 guys?

    What am I missing?

    #170 5 years ago

    5 if you include youself, as you said 4 friends....

    1 month later
    #223 4 years ago

    Second for comet. Great product. Tons of choice. And art (the owner) will do everything he can to keep you happy.

    Amazing customer service

    1 month later
    #289 4 years ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    You mean, sell it to you at a loss since they could get more for it in the US?
    I'll never understand this mentality that somehow Canadians should leave money on the table "for the good of pinball." More like the good of your wallet.

    Sell it at market value of what the local market commands. No one is saying to sell at a loss, but people who bought last year paid far less than what they would pay now.

    That doesnt mean they cant sell to an American, but for some people it wouldnt be worth the time, effort or hassle to coordniate with a US buyer to get your pin.

    #293 4 years ago

    That's not what I'm saying Paul.

    Not being pulled into this any more

    3 weeks later
    #399 4 years ago

    Hosted Toronto pinball league last night. Great fun!


    1 week later
    #467 4 years ago
    Quoted from aeonblack:

    I'm still looking for someone to cover for me on tuesday night at Lucky's Lounge for Diehard Pinball league. Anyone at all!

    Would love to, but its a bit of a drive.

    1 month later
    #557 4 years ago
    Quoted from Mitch:

    and you have to add your 13% tax on tge price after its converted to canadian when it comes across the boarder

    Taxation is different out west I believe.

    #594 4 years ago
    Quoted from hollywood:

    I have an immense desire for ghostbusters.....25 years ago though!
    I really wish Stern (whom I have no problems with) would take the time to create an "original" game again.
    Maybe it would even lessen the prices here in Canada because they wouldn't have to pay for theme licensing!

    They did Whoa Nellie, and that didnt seem to lower prices, or go over well from what Ive seen.

    #596 4 years ago
    Quoted from hollywood:

    Wasn't that a remake?
    If not....pretty dumb theme no?

    Well, the big issue was making an EM for the price of a modern game.

    There arent a lot of original themes that would be big earners in a public setting.

    Even the boutique guys arent making original themes for the most part. Ya, Spooky put out AMH, but they are now doing Rob Zombie (license). JJP has WOZ and Hobbit (Both license). Heighwey has full throttle, but now releasing Alien (License).

    Licenses sell because of sentimental and emotional attachment. Original ideas may not capture the fancy of a buyer willing to shell out major dollars on a toy.

    1 week later
    #682 4 years ago

    I like having other peoples scores as goals to accomplish.


    Warn the players beforehand, that anyone who GC's a game buys it.

    2 weeks later
    #696 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jeekayjay:

    Sounds like there's going to be a great turnout at Yegpin! Should be a great time and a good chance to play a butt load of pins.
    Whose all making the trip from out-of-town?


    #715 4 years ago
    Quoted from puck:

    Ok, just wanted to toss it out there. If you plan on selling a machine in Canada what do you price it at?
    Take a machine I have no skin in for example flintstones pinball. A good example, a 1994 Williams 4,779 units on planet earth.
    • eBay 4,895.00US nafc
    • Pinside $2,000 - 3,200 pending condition
    The reason I ask is it looks to me like people are taking the machine they own, pricing it at the highest US price they can justify and then adding 30% for the exchange then packing on $300-500 shipping "cuse thats what you would have to pay to get it from the US". And you know what, I don't agree or disagree. Supply and demand will ultimately dictate, and perhaps this site is the last place I should be posting about pricing, but for anyone who has recently picked up or sold a machine if you are comfortable sharing, how much did you pay? If you are the seller how did you land on a price.
    My last machine was a $300 Miss-O that I think I paid $250 to much for after looking at it after getting it home, but as my time becomes more limited I am looking more towards collector machines.

    I think another major issue that you're overlooking, is that most people who are selling expensive machines, need to be able to make more money than they used to so they can replace it with something else on the current market. It is just like the housing market here in Canada, it's gotten so bad that if you're going to sell, you must sell high to be able to even make a lateral move in the market.

    1 month later
    #804 4 years ago

    Option 1 is tron downstairs.
    Option 2 is JD sells.

    You have time, think of your move.

    The way I see it (of course personal opinion), tron is leaps and bounds ahead of JD and also becoming much hard to find. At least at a rational price point. JD will come and go and is also known as a fader game. It has appeal and slowly doesn't.

    With that said though, selling JD may make you want it back more.

    Either way, I think youll be OK with the collection you have.

    1 month later
    #859 4 years ago

    Officially ready for league night to start!




    #861 4 years ago
    Quoted from aeonblack:

    I wish our league had skeeball to play while you wait for a machine to free up

    Always fun stuff depending on the host. Some have vids, one has a full bowling alley mechanical with extended lane.

    If you are ever Toronto bound, drop a line.

    #867 4 years ago
    Quoted from flashinstinct:

    How much would you pay for a TF LE (HUO)? I'm not looking to start a debate but I've heard people paying lower than $4500 and some paying $4900. I don't want to sound like an ass when I make an offer. The pro seems to be the more popular model. I've owned the Pro and really enjoyed it.. Would I be kick myself to get an LE?

    With the market being as it is, the RF pro and le have risen in cost for us Canadians.

    As str8cash said, they still fetch 5k usd in occasion. So if at 5k cad, not a bad deal.

    4 weeks later
    #905 4 years ago
    Quoted from Willathrilla:

    Didn't playdium clear Kiss LE out at $9,999?

    Still are.

    2 months later
    #956 4 years ago
    Quoted from allknowing2012:

    Anyone happen to have arcade details for the new Cineplex opening up in Kitchener soon? Says it is affiliated with Starburst (didnt know Starburst was an arm of Cineplex). Also mentions that Cineplex is opening up arcades or taking over amusement places from another company.

    Cineplex is a partial (or more now) owner of starburst.

    EDIT: looks like they are 100% owners from a year ago:

    1 month later
    #1007 3 years ago
    Quoted from smokedog:

    Getting closer! And a pic of my messy garage ...

    Send kiss to me and it will alleviate some mess.

    3 months later
    #1124 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    Holy sheep shit batman! There's a $20k pin on the market.. Big Bang Bar ..anyone ever seen one?!

    Have a few here in Toronto.

    In fact two different hosts for TOPL (Toronto Pinball league) have them in current lineup

    3 weeks later
    #1151 3 years ago
    Quoted from Hammerhead:

    $450K would get you about a third of that square footage on a 35' lot around here.

    Barely buys a condo here hahaha

    #1170 3 years ago

    This thread took a turn I'm not enjoying.

    #1176 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinhead306:

    Sorry it was all in good fun. I'll zip it now.

    See second post.

    #1177 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    Come on down for the 1st tourney! You're only an airplane ride away..provided you already own a spandex wrestling outfit and willing to do an Mean Gene Okerlund interview

    Would love to, if time and cost wasn't an issue.

    Missing yegpin due to cost, but at least I'm making it up by going to VFW

    #1179 3 years ago

    It's in Michigan. Easier drive for me, but not you guys.

    2 weeks later
    #1261 3 years ago

    Bsd looks so small

    #1286 3 years ago
    Quoted from dirkdiggler:

    Pm sent!
    I'm pretty sure to win this bet that I'm the only pinsider who doesn't own a cell phone

    You're not.

    I have a cell, but I can name a handful of others local here in Toronto that do not.

    #1316 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinhead306:

    I agree that condition is king and I agree that huo and routed is a blurry line because it is case by case not just a general statement. The thing is with routed games there are things that are out of even the best/most consistent operator. For instance the woz that is at rebellion was being played by some huge guy and he smashed the glass on the machine. That is something that wouldn't be happening in a huo environment. Well I hope anyways. Like I said it's not a dig at you at all pokey I have mad respect for you it's just my perspective on the way the market is.

    I've seen glass smash in people's homes

    And is it a huo if it's been used in league play?

    Blurry is an understatement

    #1322 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinhead306:

    Point taken I agree but there are multiple things. I've played on locations and the glass is sticky with beer. Having drink holders on the machine, someone other then you using non proper cleaning product on the cabinet. Also play numbers. As I said prior it's just my opinion and I'm entitled too it. I don't think there is even a comparison on which machine takes more abuse.

    Everything you said, while likely true for routed, is still not making a strong case, as this is all user based.

    Lots of home machines have drink holders, I know lots of home owners who put drinks ON games (and I hate seeing it).

    And play number is a moot point as well. Have you ever gotten a game home and it being new to you you just play it, over and over and over and over again? You aren't limited by pumping coins into the thing, you just keep pressing start.

    I'm not trying to be a smartass, just stating what's already been said. Huo is a term that needs to be taken with a grain of salt until you physically see the game.

    #1324 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    If your friends spill drinks & smash the glass out with their fists at your house I think u need new friends! ROUTED typically get played almost every night while HUO most likely gets less plays and more respect. It's like buying a used car.. if it's a one owner vehicle or off a companie's fleet..which one are you going to generally want more? The one used by a bunch of random people who bag the shit out of it or the that you know the history of its use.

    if everything he says is likely true..then it's making a pretty strong case!

    My point stands on the fact that HUO is a vague term, and like i mentioned prior, it all goes back to 'condition is king', which we have all agreed on.

    And if my friends mistreat my games, they dont return. Im lucky enough to say I have yet to need to stop anyone from playing my games.

    #1328 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    Yes it's a vague term..but my understanding of the term in reference to pinball machines is that MOST LIKELY means it has not been abused in a public environment, and that it TYPICALLY doesn't get played every nite by random people who don't treat it as their own. So taken with a grain of salt & GENERALLY speaking Meegis, would you buy a one owner car or a fleet vehicle?

    If the one owner car smells like cigarettes, has a bunch of accident history, and looks like shit.

    While the fleet car has full dealer service records,and seems to be on the up and up.

    My answer is clear.

    1 month later
    #1450 3 years ago
    Quoted from dirkdiggler:

    FINALLY some decent weather here. Off to see if anything is biting at the trout pond this morning besides mosquitoes.

    Wish I could take a day like that =/

    #1452 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    Was thinking of ordering some LED strips and a few spotlights. Where is a good place to order lights from in Canada?!


    Sadly, I find using a us source is better even with shipping.

    Comet is great and shipping is often minimal

    1 week later
    #1471 3 years ago

    Even being almost four and a half thousand km away. I have nothing but good things to say about Nitro. Tommy is active in the community here and on Facebook. Always a pleasure to speak to on the phone, and as others have said, will bend over backwards to do what he needs to keep you happy as a customer.

    Keep up the great work

    #1472 3 years ago

    Its a damn shame that Stern monopolized their Canadian sales up to this point with one sole distributor for all of Canada. If that were to change, I can only imagine the drastic influx it would be on Nitro's sales.

    #1474 3 years ago
    Quoted from wolv3:

    Is there no one that we can all complain to so Tommy can buy direct. He comes out to the shows and sells the games so why should stern get a cut?

    I think you mean Starburst, but I agree completely.

    #1477 3 years ago
    Quoted from noahd42:

    It's even worse in my opinion because Cineplex owns them and there are just two pins at the Rec Room here in South Edmonton Common. Seems like a real waste of the exclusivity if they don't even put them out in public.

    To add to the disdain; the Toronto (head office) showroom which usually has all new games on display has closed their doors on weekends. They are only open during the day Mon - Fri. So anyone who works a typical hour job cannot even go in and see the games before purchase.

    Add to that, you can no longer even pick up your purchase on the weekend either.

    Just makes the customer experience less than satisfactory.

    #1481 3 years ago
    Quoted from spinal:

    I agree, who do they think are going to buy the games - people without jobs?

    It has been said by some employees (both current and former) that the retail customer is not their concern. Sadly, as collectors, we dont make much of a dent in the everyday commercial sales they probably do (pinball, billiards, juke boxes etc). While we are the ones buying the specialy titles like premium and LE models, its not the bread and butter of the industry for them. They also rely heavily on their service dept to bring in earnings. While Ive bought many parts from them (both reasonably priced and excessively marked up) the service dept horror stories keep me from enlisting their services. Luckily there are a handful of GREAT techs locally in the enthusiast community.

    #1485 3 years ago
    Quoted from FlipperFreak:

    I'd like to thank everyone in the pinball community for their vocal support of Nitro via Pinside, emails & phone calls. I have some very good news I'll be posting soon! Thx, T

    Free NIB machines for those that supported

    Very generous of you. I will happily send my address info, or I can make arrangements to pick up

    3 months later
    #1683 3 years ago

    EMs have a certain charm to them. That being said, some are better than others, and everyone is personal taste.

    Good luck finding them, I have a couple I may part with as well.

    #1685 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dee-Bow:

    What did you guys think of Strikes and Spares(bally)? I see u owned one Meegis.There's one in town here for sale. I messaged the gent and hopefully gonna go take a look if he gets back to me..

    Fun game. Had a minty one got a while. That era of Bally play very similar to each other. Fun to rip spinners.

    3 weeks later
    #1764 3 years ago

    Anyone here going to Vancouver Flip Out? Im curious about a few things, would really appreciate, as Im on the other end of the country.

    Shoot me a PM.


    #1765 3 years ago

    Have had a few people reach out to me from flip out.

    Thanks to those who messaged me

    No longer need assistance


    1 month later
    #1885 2 years ago
    Quoted from Hammerhead:

    Tee hee - it's supposed to be 17C here tomorrow.

    Too bad it's pissing rain out today. Was supposed to move a few pins out

    #1914 2 years ago

    Ontario waiting.....watching....hehehehehehe

    #1920 2 years ago
    Quoted from dirkdiggler:

    For one of these?
    Long trip for a butt whooping no? See you guys in May

    Nah, never had a hope on that.

    Maybe for their centennial run..... Go leafs Go! 2067!!!

    1 week later
    #1952 2 years ago
    Quoted from FlipperFreak:

    We're happy to finally announce that Nitro Pinball is officially a Stern distributor for Western Canada. Our games, parts & accessories will now come directly from Stern. This means better pricing, better service and more choice. I'd like to personally thank everyone in the community that supported our steadfast love of pinball and rallied behind our customer service model. In addition, we're proud distributors of American Pinball, Chicago Gaming, Jersey Jack, Heighway, Dutch & Homepin. Feel free to contact me anytime if there is something you need. Or, just have questions about a release. I always have time to talk pinball
    Silverball regards,
    Toll Free: 1-855-366-4876
    Cell: (604) 226-5346

    Do sell yourself short...

    The Toronto market will happily support you too.

    Way to go bud!!

    1 week later
    #2048 2 years ago

    Is it time to grab the popcorn?

    #2053 2 years ago
    Quoted from spinal:

    I didn't even know it was legal for companies in Canada to deny selling products to me based on where I live - learn something new every day.
    Has anyone encountered this in other industries where you call up a company for some product and they say "sorry, I'm not allowed to sell to you because you're from Saskatchewan"?
    Next question is, what if you visited another province. Could they deny to sell to you even in person, over the counter, because you live in a certain province?

    There are tricks im business and contracts behind scenes, but its not totally allowed.

    Quoted from Hitch9:

    I’m not sure it is legal.

    It is not.

    #2101 2 years ago
    Quoted from chinosts:

    So I have a question... You guys live in Canada. Why don't you order direct from the manufacturer when buying new pinballs? Why go through a distributer? If you organize amongst yourselves you could share shipping costs etc.
    What is stopping you from organizing a road trip to Stern and coming back with a truck full of pinballs? What am I missing here?

    Stern refuses to sell direct to public and there is a long standing contract that anything Canada bound is "supposed" to go through player 1 amusements.

    Not as easy as it seems.

    However, Tommy at nitro is doing a fantastic job mitigating the situation and helping out everyone he can with this.

    Hoping to one day be able to purchase from him.

    #2133 2 years ago
    Quoted from trueno92:

    Sml wanted to charge $40 for flipper coils.
    True story

    I needed a cool for my doc ock kicker and p1 (starburst at the time) wanted $48. It was $9.99 USD on Marcos site which I checked on my phone while standing at their parts counter.

    1 week later
    #2155 2 years ago

    Wish I was local...

    1 week later
    #2168 2 years ago
    Quoted from Rascal-911:

    Buying pinball in Canada.
    I was just reading the comments about Nitro and Player 1 retailers.
    I am in the middle of trying to buy a new pin currently. Paid deposit and waiting on shipping. All I can say is when I wanted a new machine I contacted both retailers and picked the lowest price and distance. The problem I have now is the distributor is also waiting on shipment and the shipping dates are way off.
    My only complaints through the process, other than not playing my new pin yet, seems to be a lack of communication and unknown delivery times.
    Is this normal?
    I'll see how it goes.

    Shipping right now is a complete mystery to most in the shipping business.

    Anything outbound has been delayed by 1 day and up to 2 weeks on rail lately. I have had shipments fly through, and others sit in limbo.

    Find out which company it's being shipped with and the waybill # or bol #. With this you can Google the carrier and call them direct for info.

    If already paid, this info is rightfully yours to know and track.

    2 months later
    #2270 2 years ago
    Quoted from smokedog:

    Visited Pinbar this week in YYC. It's frickin awesome. Truly what I wanted Pokey's to be. It's worth a trip! Wonderful folk and just a great over all atmosphere. Can't wait for my next visit!

    You need to step up yor beard game.

    #2299 2 years ago

    I bolt my games to the concrete floor in my basement.

    Doesn't everybody?

    1 month later
    #2347 2 years ago

    So it happened....

    Tommy played a gottlieb

    IMG_20180419_163551 (resized).jpg

    1 week later
    #2374 2 years ago
    Quoted from Hammerhead:

    Yes, but now he'll get to deal with the 28 cents on the dollar USD-to-CAD exchange and 13% tax at the border.
    Welcome to Canada!

    Exchange only affects him if he doesn't already have USD funds....

    2 months later
    #2408 2 years ago
    Quoted from dirkdiggler:

    Probably due to summer. Lots of guys I know barely turn their games on when it's nice out. They're at the lake, working on their cars or doing outdoor activities with the kids.

    What's this 'outdoors' you speak of?

    2 weeks later
    #2423 2 years ago
    Quoted from Ive:

    Hey BC pinheads !
    I'm over in Vancouver at the end of August for a few days ...where's the pinball at in the city ? We were over 4 years ago and I visited Pub 340...they had a decent lineup. Any good video game places too ? Oh and craft beer places
    Thanks and looking forward to visiting again

    If you can linger into September, they have a big show going on.

    5 months later
    #2575 1 year ago
    Quoted from libtech:

    Good day to set some of those midnight madness high scores!

    Some of us are in bed by 9 p.m., good sir

    #2577 1 year ago

    Sad, but true. I was at the office yesterday, and have had very little time off.

    Also have a 1 yr old that keeps me running until he's asleep, and that's when I pass out too haha

    3 weeks later
    #2585 1 year ago

    Anyone have a link to said auction?

    9 months later
    #2722 1 year ago
    Quoted from Waynezor:

    Does anyone ever go down south to the various pinball expos?

    I do, but geographically speaking it might not mean anything to you.

    Why do you ask?

    #2728 1 year ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    Let me know if you head South to a show and will have some room coming home for oddballs and bagatelles?

    Will do, but I don't go to too many and my car is mighty small.

    You need to hit up VFW next spring.

    1 week later
    #2733 11 months ago
    Quoted from Waynezor:

    Is there anymore differences between usa and Canadian pins other then the coin mech?

    Modern Stern's come standard with a tournament button on Canadian models but so not have one on a us model.

    It can be added at a cost to the us model, but often is just a plugged hole or dummy switch filler.

    2 months later
    #2787 9 months ago

    Great powder coat guy here in Toronto area, but I do t think you're looking for that kind of drive.

    #2790 9 months ago
    Quoted from CanadianPinball:

    Got a link or details? meegis

    Pm incoming

    6 months later
    #2852 86 days ago
    Quoted from TheCanadianGuy:

    Finally, a thread I belong too.

    Welcome.... Nice collection too.

    2 months later
    #2917 10 days ago
    Quoted from Cobra:

    What colour is it?

    I haven't seen it myself, but I believe its a cinnamon, burnt orange.

    1 week later
    #2971 1 day ago
    Quoted from Saltimbanco:

    Do you mean by going to CBSA with the receipt to pay taxes BEFORE the parts get delivered to your home address?

    You probably pay a brokerage fee for the order to cross pre-cleared shipment.

    Sadly, there are a lot of rules of import/export to get around these fees that most dont know and therefore cannot take advantage.

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