Thought I'd see everyone's thoughts on color dmd's. I've tried the following games:
Metallica.
Iron Man.
Ac/dc.
Star trek next gen.
I'd really like to try Twilight Zone and Roadshow, Tron and Addams Family.
What have you guys played and your thoughts?
I love them and wish we could get them cheaper.

Even if Stern would come up with an original non license title do you honestly think Stern would lower their price and give back to the people.

I don't think price will come down anytime soon non license just mean more profit for them

Really like color dmds but don't have any. One of the last mods for me, and at current prices only on super favorite keeper pins.

Here's a recent pic and the first to share of my pin room, basic but enough space. Excuse the crappy quality, at least the overall framing is interesting. I'm really enjoying a new addition. Cheers.

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Yeah sask is 5% gst and 5%pst . Not as good as Alberta , not as bad as other provinces .

Have color dmd on AC/DC, MET, Avengers and Tron.

Love it

Met I think is the best, the dots are very good

They need to do it for twd, dots are incredible too

Nice.

Newer pins ime have cooler dots lending themselves to a color dmd, and TWD has ime the best dots I've ever seen.

Met is the best for sure. Lotr is really awesome too

Addams looks great as well. Can't go wrong with the color DMD. Great to look at. Too bad the exchange rate sucks!!

I currently have the colordmd in Afm,Metallica,And TAF.
Nice addition for sure.
Definately want it for GOTLE and TWDLE

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Iron Man looks great with a colour DMD. I would like to get one for Metallica though. It has great dots.

I have color dmd's in Tales Of The Arabian Nights, Judge Dredd and I just picked one up for my Tron (but haven't installed yet). TOTAN is phenomenal with cdmd, it really makes that game shine and fits with it perfectly. Gov did a great job coloring the dots on Judge Dredd, and as a fan of the original comics, the palette he chose is spot on. Tron, from the videos I've seen (having not installed yet), looks good, but isn't nearly as necessary, though it will be a fun game to play around with different display modes. I think the nice thing about cdmd is that it really helps bring a clarity to the existing dots by giving some contrast, which makes it easier to quickly look at the display and still get all the info. Besides that, they look better and they certainly make the games more attractive and modern looking. I agree with pingod, GOT will really benefit from a cdmd, as it is showing a lot of detailed stuff that could use some more contrast to make it pop.

Is it worth the money? No, but I still will buy one for every game I own because they make the game look better and pinball is visual entertainment. That and you can always keep it and swap in the factory display if you decide to sell.

Ok lets talk seriously, I understand that exchange rate blablabla.

What is today's price in canadian dollar for a NIB stern pro premium LE

Gave a few calls and cannot understand why, in canada, there is such increase in price for a premium

Couldnt agree more, I laughed and hung up after one phone call today.

No bs here guys we are ordinary people with an urge to spend money and dose our economy so legally we can talk prices here without naming People

I cannot understand why such in increase in Premiums compare to the other models ?

Exchange rate should affect any models with same percentage

LE, I could accept an unreachable amount but now Premium's are getting away from pro and closer to LE prices

Come on

Nitro is asking 7100 USD for GB Premium which works out to about 11k.

Ouch. That's messed up. Still cheaper than a Lebowski!

I heard 12000 canadian for LE

Thats nuts

If it's 7100 usd here, what is it in the states?

Don't forget nitro and John's jukes get their games from starburst. Starburst is the ones controlling the prices in Canada as they are the ones getting them from stern directly.

I was told $8300-8500 US for a LE. I tried calling Nitro all day but could'nt get through. Id love to add this title but this is getting crazy.

It makes my metle from 2 1/2 years ago look like a steal with the price increases and the dollar.

slimer moves sideways and blocks the ramp, extra ramp, the hologram ghosts

There's no extra ramp. Just that the way the right ramp works is different.

Ok right. Well it makes a big difference it comes back to left flipper instead of everything just to the right flipper

Different ramp
Goggles ghost thing
Slimer goes side to side
Electromagnet slings
Few better moulded buildings rather than flat plastics
And some artwork

Cool stuff for sure but worth the 3-4k extra? Not really that gameplay changing, if I get one I think it would be a pro..

Yep. I get having to pay the exchange rate, it is what it is. But for some reason a NIB pin in Canada will cost you at least $600 to $700 USD more than people are paying in the States. Its crazy. My guess is Starburst is pretty comfortable with their markup given they have no competition in Canada.

2 different ramps - I love the right ramp on the Pre/LE. Reminds me of the Jack the Monkey ramp on Pirates. Ball will come back fast to the left flipper. On the Pro it will be coming back to the right flipper.

Also, the scoop on the right with the subway.

Playfield rails instead of pegs (not a huge deal).

I'm really curious about the magnetic slings. Will quiet the pin a bit without those coils going off, and could be used for some neat effects.

But you are right, the price bump is hard to swallow. Over 10K landed for a Premium, compared to under 8K for a Pro.

Some of that can be explained by Customs Fee's, but not that much of an increase.

Going to have to disagree with you on this one

I think the Ecto Goggles, subway ramp (underground lock, balls spit out when containment is breached sounds very cool) and magnet slings make it a Premium for me if I end up with one.

If anyone hasn't yet I'd recommend listening to Nate's latest Coast to Coast Pinball podcast with Jody, some good discussion on gameplay features in there.

Maybe some, but I would have to guess less than a hundred. The last time I brought a pin up from the States, I think about three years ago, it cost me $75CDN in customs fees, and that was as a non-business. There is no duty on pins, so if they are paying more than that just to get someone to do their customs paperwork I would say they are doing it wrong.

Agreed. I have not checked with my sales guy yet on pricing, but I assume it is close to what people have been quoted.

Not supporting Starburst pricing, but I am sure they are not paying what US distributors pay. Pretty sure Stern will tack on extra to their
pricing for shipping to Canada. Which is past on to us.

Sweet I hope you get one, you may have to let me pop over sometime to try it!

The pro has the same lock, its just built into the ramp with a mag diverter and then it has the kicker on the pf not under, the subway is way cooler though.. the goggles do look sweet too, just as mentioned a pro is 7k, and a prem is 10k (plus taxes) so is it worth the price difference is all.. it would be different if it was only ~1k, but its more like 3k for a prem. so its something to think on..

Either way, I hope it plays well, because it looks great so far, they have done a great job

I'm leaning towards a premium, but until I see gameplay and hear the game in action, I can't say for sure whether it's something I want to own or that I'm just excited to play. The art looks great, the playfield layout seems pretty solid, but those are things I could say about WOZ and that game just felt absolutely dead and dull to me (though, theme didn't help on that one, GB has the advantage of actually appealing to me). Given that, I'm fine with waiting a while and hoping the exchange rate bounces back. I'm not holding my breathe, but who knows. I'm still 100% in for Alien, despite GB having better art, and either way, it's gonna hurt the wallet.

Exchange at 0.76 today, let's hope it keeps going.

GBLE is going to be crazy expensive in Canada. However, I don't see the dollar recovering significantly for multiple years and there is huge demand in the US, and it appears most if not all LE's are already gone. Seems to me that an LE buyer here likely won't take much of a hit when selling. It will be just money tied up in a pinball machine.

The beauty of the prem is there is no rush to buy. Wait and see how it plays.

I am about 90% in on a Premium. Just waiting to hear initial gameplay reviews on Pro/LE, luckily they will ship weeks before the Premiums so I have time. I swore to myself I would wait for a pin to be out for at least a year before I bought NIB, but the initial reveal was so impressive I have high hopes. And I really want a new pin. Sold three last year so I have pinball money burning a hole in my pocket

That's what the dollar is at. Exchange was 1.41 yesterday when I placed a order from comet:/

Visa has theirs posted for today at 1.34 (excluding any bank fees), so that seems high to me, unless I am missing something.

It's all relative. We just need to get over it tbh. Your 7k pro will still be worth close to that when you sell it or trade it in. Only way you will lose any real money is if dollar changes by 20 or more points or you buy a turd like wwe and the price of the game drops as its undesirable.

Anyone in Calgary have Earthshaker I could try by chance. Would like to try it out after 20 years of not playing it and they would be more than welcome to try my pins as well.

My buddy Mike in Battleford has one. It's fun.

Has anyone had a good buying experience with Bob at tps? I'm just looking for one good reference and haven't found any.

Here are some differences for Canada. Shipping, and do not forget the C.S.A. testing, C.S.A. certification on new manufactured consumer goods must add something to the cost of each pin destine for Canada, unless U.L. testing is the exact same.

Bob is a nice guy,but most of his games are overpriced for what you get.
If his tech went through it,your better off passing on the game.

Mostly routed games needing a lot of attention.
Still has the odd good deal though,takes a lot of nice games in on trade to.

Anyone know the history on the monopoly he has for sale?

Hot off TWD club thread.

http://gameroomblog.com/features/2015-pinball-machine-of-the-year

I would have no issue on buying anything from TPS as long as you go into with the following.

1. The majority of machines are overpriced by at least $500, this is called a profit margin as he is running a business unlike us collectors.
2. The majority of machines are not clean most are at least mechanically sound but you WILL need to do work on them if you want to get them back to playing shape.
3. He charges GST he has to it is a business.
4. He doesn't really negotiate his pricing he feels he can get what he gets so do not feel discouraged if he tells you he won't go down in price.
5. Buyer beware most of the games are routed, things like plastics, coils, rubbers and others may need to be replaced, in other words you might have to put some investment into them.

Other than that Bob is a descent guy who is just trying to run a business, either you get that or you don't and go elsewhere