You can rotate your pics in the marketplace you know?
(Topic ID: 272150)
Bermuda Triangle
Edmonton, AB
Quoted from robin:I spent all Friday looking into this and it's some real weird bug with the EXIF data on some phones. Not quite sure what the deal is, but I just wanted to let you know I'm looking into it.
I have no problems clicking on my pic, once uploaded, and rotating it. Then posting it.
I think people just don’t know how to rotate as they need to click the photo to the see the option to do so.
Quoted from Blackbeard:I have no problems clicking on my pic, once uploaded, and rotating it. Then posting it.
I think people just don’t know how to rotate as they need to click the photo to the see the option to do so.
Yes, I have also been working on simplifying that interface. It seemed easy to do, but turned out quite the headache. It's certainly up for a UI upgrade 
Quoted from Blackbeard:I have no problems clicking on my pic, once uploaded, and rotating it. Then posting it.
I think people just don’t know how to rotate as they need to click the photo to the see the option to do so.
It's not always true.
Even if you click the photo after uploading, the option to rotate is NOT available when posting a pic for high scores.
Maybe it's a software upgrade causing the problem with Android phones.
Quoted from robin:I spent all Friday looking into this and it's some real weird bug with the EXIF data on some phones. Not quite sure what the deal is, but I just wanted to let you know I'm looking into it.
My phone all ways used to default to correct side as top. I hold the phone, take a pic, post a pic. All way good.
A few months back something broke in a site update. Now about 50% are sideways.
Of those, about 30% can’t be turned.
Even when you can turn, it is a PITA due to how small that turn button is
Yep, new Android phone here, and the spin button only comes up for half a second, no way to use it.
Still doesn't explain why pics come up sideways in first place.
Old Android, no problem.
Sellersburg, IN
Quoted from Blackbeard:I have no problems clicking on my pic, once uploaded, and rotating it. Then posting it.
I think people just don’t know how to rotate as they need to click the photo to the see the option to do so.
If I upload a photo from my laptop, I can rotate fine. From my phone, that option is not available. Android platform.
I can rotate on my iPhone ... it’s super picky about the touch zone of the rotate button ... you kinda have to lightly touch it.... it’s funky
Quoted from Blackbeard:I have no problems clicking on my pic, once uploaded, and rotating it. Then posting it.
I think people just don’t know how to rotate as they need to click the photo to the see the option to do so.
People Do know how to rotate it that however does not make it Not a problem. Like Whysnow mentioned this started happening a few months ago for no reason.
On mobile, the rotate function is impossible to pull off. I try to flip them back when I get a desktop.
Quoted from robin:Yes, I have also been working on simplifying that interface. It seemed easy to do, but turned out quite the headache. It's certainly up for a UI upgrade
Please update in this topic if resolved.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/picture-orientation-issues#post-5715038
First of all, improved edit buttons, including rotate, are in beta testing now. They will be "always on" (no longer requiring a "mouse hover" or initial touch to display) and easier to touch on mobile.
The image orientation issue is a tough nut to crack. Something very funky is going on...
Warning, what follows is technical stuff.
Pinside uses a javascript xmlhttp uploader (called "fine uploader") that supports client-side image resizing. This means that your computer/phone will resize images before they upload to Pinside. This is needed because Pinside cannot technically and financially handle the bandwidth of all your 10MB+ images being uploaded from your state of the art iPhone 12 Pro's and Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra's and whatnots
Our client-side resizer will also perform orientation correction based on the EXIF 'orientation' field. Here's where things get wonky. The uploader we use is no longer being maintained, so the issue could be there.
But we also do server-side rotation in case the client side resizing is disabled (e.g. when you select "upload original") which is handled by another package called "Intervention image".
And then there is an issue where iOS will strip the orientation tag when you select a resized image on your phone.
I have been experimenting with disabling/tweaking/debugging either one of these but have not yet found a cause for the issue (or a solution). My thought is that improved image rotate buttons will at least help you correct orientation issues yourself. While I work on the deeper cause for this. I might have to switch to a completely new uploader. I'm just not sure yet.
It could be any of these issues, or a combination of these. I'm not sure when this issue started - if anyone has a date when this started happening I can look into the github of each project (and also in our own git repo) to find clues.
Sorry for the hassle!
Quoted from robin:Sorry for the hassle!
This is like santa telling the kid sorry for bringing the wrong colored wagon.
Thanks for this site Robin. Without Pinside, i don't know how i'd make it through a work day.
1 week later
Quoted from robin:Yes, I have also been working on simplifying that interface. It seemed easy to do, but turned out quite the headache. It's certainly up for a UI upgrade
Quoted from robin:First of all, improved edit buttons, including rotate, are in beta testing now. They will be "always on" (no longer requiring a "mouse hover" or initial touch to display) and easier to touch on mobile.
The image orientation issue is a tough nut to crack. Something very funky is going on...
Warning, what follows is technical stuff.
Pinside uses a javascript xmlhttp uploader (called "fine uploader") that supports client-side image resizing. This means that your computer/phone will resize images before they upload to Pinside. This is needed because Pinside cannot technically and financially handle the bandwidth of all your 10MB+ images being uploaded from your state of the art iPhone 12 Pro's and Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra's and whatnots
Our client-side resizer will also perform orientation correction based on the EXIF 'orientation' field. Here's where things get wonky. The uploader we use is no longer being maintained, so the issue could be there.
But we also do server-side rotation in case the client side resizing is disabled (e.g. when you select "upload original") which is handled by another package called "Intervention image".
And then there is an issue where iOS will strip the orientation tag when you select a resized image on your phone.
I have been experimenting with disabling/tweaking/debugging either one of these but have not yet found a cause for the issue (or a solution). My thought is that improved image rotate buttons will at least help you correct orientation issues yourself. While I work on the deeper cause for this. I might have to switch to a completely new uploader. I'm just not sure yet.
It could be any of these issues, or a combination of these. I'm not sure when this issue started - if anyone has a date when this started happening I can look into the github of each project (and also in our own git repo) to find clues.
Sorry for the hassle!
Robin, you’re awesome!!
Thanks so much for all you do.
I did notice this issue with the site update, the rotate button would sometimes not show up or disappear immediately, or sometimes it showed up and I couldn’t press it for whatever reason.
It’s definitely an improvement that the picture editing tools are always displayed now (in beta). I love a lot of the functionality of Pinside.
It’s a little ironic that it’s so mobile friendly AND so PC friendly because supporting both at the same time seems to inadvertently make things difficult on occasion!
Thank you SO MUCH for creating and maintaining Pinside! You and your brother are the most righteous dudes!
I need to put in a big donation because about 1/3 of my employers money pays for me to be on this site anyway lol
Quoted from Ballypin:It’s spreading to FB Marketplace too.
The new Corona.
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Robin, can you please fix the entire internet as well? 
Hey, this goes well with my thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/protesting-all-pinside-posts-with-blurry-photos
2 weeks later
I figured out a cure. Lightly tap the bottom right corner of pic, and there is the spin icon. It seems the "button" is off.
Quoted from Jjsmooth:I figured out a cure. Lightly tap the bottom right corner of pic, and there is the spin icon. It seems the "button" is off.
thanks Jjsmooth, that worked for me just placed a pin up for sale.
The easiest solution is just for people to take photos properly, with the phone horizontally and not vertical
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