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Can this be true? - Stern revenue up 40% in 2016 and 30% in 2017.

By lpeters82

6 years ago


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    #31 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    What was the percentage of price increase and BOM decrease via cost cutting in 2015, 2016 and 2017?
    In 2015 you could buy a NIB Stern pro for $4200
    in 2016 you could buy a NIB Stern pro for $4800
    in 2017 you could buy a NIB Stern pro for $5400
    I would guess that BOM went down a couple hundred each year?
    That along accounts for 20% or more change each year.
    Also in that time they have a few big cash grabs like the BM66le and SLE stuff.
    This to me in evidence of how mush more they are charging for a cheaper product and less about increased sales.

    Wrong. GOT was never $4200 in 2015. $4700 was more like it for NIB.

    #39 6 years ago

    Yup prices are up. I know it won’t be popular to say this but I am going to say that it was partially our faults.

    Remember 2016 when GB LE came out at $7700 and folks were flipping them for $9000 easy? RZ was announced at low production numbers and everyone thought they would be able to sell them for $1000+ more? AMH must be a $7000 game also - right? ACDC Luci? Rarer than ACDC LE and it is worth $8500+ for it. Stock ACDC prems are $7000+ if you can find one. Stern and other manufacturers took notice and tested the market with BM66 pricing. BM66 looks fantastic and LE’s are in low production - I want that!!

    2016 got a little out of hand and raised the bar on pricing and we don’t see any flips or anyone selling games at more than they paid NIB anymore. Well long term WMS/Bally owners still do well.

    I think the end of flipping is a good thing long term, but bad because most of that is because of the manufactures increases. All of them.

    #69 6 years ago

    Looked again and %’s could totally make sense.

    2015 had WWE - not much of any sales, Kiss - so so sales, Got - pretty good sales, but a chunk of actual sales could have rolled over to 2016. So 2015 the base year of all the data was probably slow causing higher percentage increase ahead.

    2016 - had GOT rollover sales, SMVE - ok sales, GB - strong sales and 500 sold LE’s creating a good chunk of the 40% increase over 2015, BM66 - good sales, but limited with a high cost each pin and a group of those sales may have rolled over to 2017.

    2017 - had rolled over BM sales, AS sold alright, SW was a hit with 800 LE’s sold. All of these had increased price LCD’s and non LCD games all had a $300 increase which brought in more revenue.

    2017 BM roll over, SW LE price and volume and LCD’s higher prices could easily add 30% over the weaker 2016.

    So if you base increases on weak 2015 and better but not super great 2016 then sure revenue went up.

    Just a total guess though.

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    #177 6 years ago

    One conclusion is for sure is if the exact same SW Pro game was made by Spooky instead of Stern at $5400 delivered all of Pinside would fall all over themselves with nothing but praise, no criticism at all and would be so proud to add the game to their game rooms.

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