Thanks Josh. My point exactly. We showed up at Expo this year with essentially a complete game (minus background music) that literally hundreds of people got to play and enjoy. We don't need 2-more years to develop the game - the design is ready. In reality we have a 6 month plan to build games - order parts, get playfields made, establish manufacturing process, quality control standards, etc. The reality is we don't have $500K sitting around to buy the parts to build the games. If we did we'd be building games right now. I think that's the biggest difference between Riot Pinball and many of these others - we're ready to start building, just need the financial backing.

The other thing people can take into consideration is the reason people go into business. For those that decide to risk it all, and go out and get that enormous level of debt, they expect payback and a significant return on that investment. For them it's about making money and trying to procure wealth. In my case and in the case of a lot of other people starting their own projects, we've made these pins because we love pinball and wanted to make a cool game to share with people - not to make loads of money. Just look at Skit-B - they're most likely coming close to losing money on Predator but they're moving ahead with it anyway because it's a game they are passionate about and started out the same way - they wanted to make a cool game because they love pinball and loved the Predator theme.