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    #1 5 years ago

    Hello All,
    I am hoping that someone out here can asssit with an IT question.

    What I want to be able to do is to simply add more wired Ethernet lines to my existing network which is pictured below. I thought just adding a switch would do it but I was wrong.

    The existing works just fine as it is with the exception of the Apple TV which does not work due to a WiFi being plugged into a WiFi I think. When I currently use the Apple I just temporarily will use the Xbox deed and then out it back to the way it was.

    Can someone please advise how I can add more wired nodes to this setup and what I may need to buy to do this. Many thanks in advance

    George

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    #2 5 years ago

    I currently have an unmanaged Netgear 8 port switch that I thought I could insert between the modem and the wrt1200 for the additional nodes but it does not work.

    This is the location I would like to connect the additional modes to. Hope this all makes sense and thanks again

    #3 5 years ago

    You're close -- plug the Netgear 8 port switch into the Linksys WRT1200AC and you'll get more ports. That will give you 7 more ports to use.

    You don't really want two WiFi devices on your network -- if you do need more coverage in your house, you want what's called a "mesh" network. Look at Netgear Orbi or Ubiquiti (those are the two I have experience with and they work great, but there are others).

    #4 5 years ago

    The Linksys EA600 needs to be put into bridge mode. If the router has that specific setting, it should work. If that setting isn't shown, you should turn of DHCP. The EA600 is going to try and assign IP addresses, which will conflict with the other router. There are other reasons why your existing hardware isn't optimal.

    Two much better options are: a) not hardwiring the apple tv or b) purchasing Google Mesh or a similar mesh router setup. These new mesh setups solve for the absurd technical hurdles that have plagued home routers forever. You can hardwire the mesh pucks or use them wirelessly and the configuration is managed via phone.

    #5 5 years ago
    Quoted from Fezmid:

    You're close -- plug the Netgear 8 port switch into the Linksys WRT1200AC and you'll get more ports. That will give you 7 more ports to use.
    You don't really want two WiFi devices on your network -- if you do need more coverage in your house, you want what's called a "mesh" network. Look at Netgear Orbi or Ubiquiti (those are the two I have experience with and they work great, but there are others).

    To help you understand why...
    - the Linksys WRT1200 is your router AND Firewall
    - everything has to be on the "inside" of your firewall (so it can protect you)
    --- that's why you can't add the switch between the Modem and the Router

    #6 5 years ago

    Thank you fezmid and frogman. I am very grateful.

    I understand about the two wifi’s Not the best situation but it does work at the moment save for the Apple TV. That is one reason I am adding another node is to plug in the Apple. Orrwctly and not through the second WiFi box down stream.

    A question for you fezmid. You advised to plug in the Netgear switch to the wrt1200
    And that will provide for the additional nodes. Sounds great and exactly what I need. There is a “Ethernet” port on the back of the wrt1200 and then four what I will call slave ports. I assume the Netgear switch will go into one of those additional ports correct?

    #7 5 years ago
    Quoted from GPS:

    Thank you fezmid and frogman. I am very grateful.
    I understand about the two wifi’s Not the best situation but it does work at the moment save for the Apple TV. That is one reason I am adding another node is to plug in the Apple. Orrwctly and not through the second WiFi box down stream.
    A question for you fezmid. You advised to plug in the Netgear switch to the wrt1200
    And that will provide for the additional nodes. Sounds great and exactly what I need. There is a “Ethernet” port on the back of the wrt1200 and then four what I will call slave ports. I assume the Netgear switch will go into one of those additional ports correct?

    Correct - the cable modem will plug into the single port, and the other four ports are Ethernet ports -- plug the switch into one of those ports, and it'll look like one big network.

    #8 5 years ago

    Also, make sure your the cable going from your Router to the Linksys EA6100 is going into the LAN port on the 6100 and not the WAN port. Otherwise, the 6100 will act as a router, and not a switch, and you will have two subnets, which I don't think you want. You can plug the netgear switch into either linksys devices, just make sure nothing is plugged into the 6100 WAN port.

    #9 5 years ago

    Excellent. Just what I need. I am grateful to all. Thank you

    #10 5 years ago
    Quoted from jester523:

    Also, make sure your the cable going from your Router to the Linksys EA6100 is going into the LAN port on the 6100 and not the WAN port. Otherwise, the 6100 will act as a router, and not a switch, and you will have two subnets, which I don't think you want. You can plug the netgear switch into either linksys devices, just make sure nothing is plugged into the 6100 WAN port.

    Hello Jester
    The cable from the wrt1200 is going from one of the four ports on the wrt1200 to the Ethernet port on the ea6100.

    #11 5 years ago

    ....and just to be clear, get ALL your stationary devices off of WiFi.

    Make sure your TVs, your Xboxes, your Stereo Receivers, your Desktop PCs...everything that can be hardwired IS hardwired.

    If you get a managed switch, you can even give your Xbox priority; for lag free gaming.

    #12 5 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    If you get a managed switch, you can even give your Xbox priority; for lag free gaming.

    Terrible recommendation... If you do that, then who do you blame when you lose the game? You'd have to take personal responsibility instead of blaming the hardware!

    #13 5 years ago
    Quoted from Frogman:

    The Linksys EA600 needs to be put into bridge mode. If the router has that specific setting, it should work. If that setting isn't shown, you should turn of DHCP. The EA600 is going to try and assign IP addresses, which will conflict with the other router. There are other reasons why your existing hardware isn't optimal.

    This is 100% correct. Currently you have two DHCP servers on your network which will cause problems. Either the EA6000 needs to go or be put in bridge mode.

    You setup will work but the AppleTV is behind a double NAT right now and is going to have issues communicating with other devices on your network. Chances are they are on the same addressable range so inevitably you’re going to run into an IP address conflict.

    Easiest solution is to pick up a cheap switch and swap out the EA6000. Something like this would work just fine.

    https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Ethernet-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=asc_df_B00A121WN6/

    Single cable from modem to Internet port on router, single cable from router to switch and all wired devices plugged into the switch.

    #14 5 years ago

    Thank you Vid and Spyder. I am trying to do just that. Get everything that can be hardwired, hardwired. Better speeds and less issues. I understand somewhat the double NAT issue and know that is an issue, just not sure how to change it. Dont know if I can get into the unit (EA6100) the way the network is currently configured or if I have to change things up to modify the settings in the EA6100

    #15 5 years ago

    You might want to reset everything back to factory, and then do a fresh setup

    Sometimes the switch has a dedicated Uplink port

    Here is how Netgear does it (I could not find a Linksys diagram)

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    #16 5 years ago
    Quoted from GPS:

    I understand somewhat the double NAT issue and know that is an issue, just not sure how to change it. Dont know if I can get into the unit (EA6100) the way the network is currently configured or if I have to change things up to modify the settings in the EA6100

    You either need the EA6100 on bridge mode (DHCP Off & a static IP for the device) or you need to swap it out with a switch. Any reason you want to keep the EA6100 and not replace it with a switch?

    Using a router as a switch isn’t the best idea.

    #17 5 years ago

    Thank you vid. All is up and running for the moment although I have not changed the secondary WiFi to bridge mode hey. Will have a neighbor who is an it guy do that. Know it needs to be done. And answering spiders questions, the reason I have the ea1600 is due to the need for a secondary WiFi signal with good signal for certain devices. I realize that the optimal way to go would be to use a single WiFi with a mesh type setup but I am trying to make the most of discretionary funds. Adding the unmanaged switch into the wrt 1200 gives me the additional ports that I need to run deviated lines to a new tv that is on the horizon as well as running a dedicated line to the Apple TV box so I don’t have to contend with the double bat situation which is preventing that from working correctly. Hope this makes sense

    #18 5 years ago

    Just to pop in.

    What I did was move and wire in a feed to my Wifi Router to a central location (dead center) in my home and then a “back feed” cat5 run to my switch where everything is hardwired to. It worked perfect and removes the need for anymore wireless devices adding to the network.

    I work in telecommunications so this may seem easy for me, the other 96% its a tough one.

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