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Calling Hawaiians pinsiders, how is life there ?

By adol75

3 months ago


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#1 3 months ago

Long story short, we live in the bay area, got offered a crazy amount of money to leave our house. While considering all kind of options (Las Vegas, Georgia, SC, Texas) that fit our bill (sun, warm, nice family suburb, outdoor life), Hawaii keeps coming top of the list.

I work remotely so local job market isn't so relevant to us, we make a decent living for California so while I am planning on saving on property tax, and as it seems cost of living is equivalent I'm not concerned about money.

I know it's a pinball desert there, but I would coming with mines, eventually jump on the opportunity to throw a few more in the container.

Let me know how is life there, the good, the bad, the ugly, I'll take it all !

#2 3 months ago
Quoted from adol75:

Long story short, we live in the bay area, got offered a crazy amount of money to leave our house. While considering all kind of options (Las Vegas, Georgia, SC, Texas) that fit our bill (sun, warm, nice family suburb, outdoor life), Hawaii keeps coming top of the list.
I work remotely so local job market isn't so relevant to us, we make a decent living for California so while I am planning on saving on property tax, and as it seems cost of living is equivalent I'm not concerned about money.
I know it's a pinball desert there, but I would coming with mines, eventually jump on the opportunity to throw a few more in the container.
Let me know how is life there, the good, the bad, the ugly, I'll take it all !

Make sure you do your homework, a lot of these grifter companies try to screw the crap out of you with these cash offers

#3 3 months ago

My brother lives in Maui, and he loves it. But it’s a small place; he’s big on going to the beach and scuba-diving. Can’t wait to come and visit him some time.

#4 3 months ago
Quoted from adol75:

Long story short, we live in the bay area, got offered a crazy amount of money to leave our house. While considering all kind of options (Las Vegas, Georgia, SC, Texas) that fit our bill (sun, warm, nice family suburb, outdoor life), Hawaii keeps coming top of the list.

I’d drop SC from the list, and I’d add Boise, Charlotte and Raleigh to the list. Dallas, Austin, Atlanta, Boise, Charlotte and Raleigh all have similar weather. Warm seven months of the year, and five months of mild winters. I suggest google searching major cities weather by month.

#5 3 months ago
Quoted from swampfire:

My brother lives in Maui, and he loves it. But it’s a small place; he’s big on going to the beach and scuba-diving. Can’t wait to come and visit him some time.

Love visiting Maui, think I'd go nuts living there tho.

#6 3 months ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

Make sure you do your homework, a lot of these grifter companies try to screw the crap out of you with these cash offers

My buyers are just people from San Francisco who used google street view as a realtor website !

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Love visiting Maui, think I'd go nuts living there tho.

Why ? That's exactly what I want to know

#7 3 months ago
Quoted from bluespin:

I’d drop SC from the list, and I’d add Boise, Charlotte and Raleigh to the list. Dallas, Austin, Atlanta, Boise, Charlotte and Raleigh all have similar weather. Warm seven months of the year, and five months of mild winters. I suggest google searching major cities weather by month.

If you call Boise mild then we probably don't have the same definition of mild ! I go skiing not far from there in December and it's freezing as hell.
I find NorCal where I am to be mild, my problem here is that it's always cold at night. I think last summer there were only 5 days where we stayed out past sunset.

#8 3 months ago

Why ? That's exactly what I want to know

A common ailment for people from the mainland is "rock fever". Some people get a form of anxiety after 3 to 6 months of being on a small mass of land in the middle of the ocean. Might be easier for those of us who have lived on the west coast to adjust.

#9 3 months ago

Cost of living is about 40% higher in Hawaii versus the States.

Fun to visit for sure.

#10 3 months ago

Gallon of gas average was 5.29 in Maui yesterday. I paid 5.79 yesterday here in San Clemente. Many people I've known who move there end up working a couple jobs to make ends meet. I can see someone from the bay area who works remote making it easily. Local rates for food when eating out help. Happy hours were and probably are still great there. Maui seems to be an area where people who aren't necessarily spiritual, feel something special about the place and find some peace with themselves. Or so I've been told many times. And kinda felt it myself.

#11 3 months ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Love visiting Maui, think I'd go nuts living there tho.

I had one brother who lived there for about 25 years and loved it. Loved going to work in flip flops every day.

Had another brother that lived there for 5 years and eventually moved back. This brother is kind of an outdoorsy kind of guy. He got tired of seeing all there is to see on the island and eventually the never changing seasons got to him too.

Keep in mind he was born and raised in MN.

#12 3 months ago

I recommend you spend a week or two visiting the various islands. Each island is different and has a different vibe. Spending a few days on each island should give you a good idea of the lifestyle and people. There is a labor shortage on the islands like many parts of the country and opportunities are bountiful. The prices are not that crazy and compared to San Fran-may be a bargain. I have family that lives on Maui and on Big Island Kona coast.

A website that I check out every so often will give you a look at the Maui real estate market. Browse under Listings By Area. While you are there-click on Beach Cam and check out the live Charley Young beach cam...

https://www.mauirealestate.net/

#13 3 months ago

One of my co workers lived on Maui for about 6 years but moved back to Michigan as soon as she was able. Been there, done that kinda thing. Missed the seasons, and after 6 years had seen every bit of it.

Been to Maui and Oahu, to me it sounds like a dream to live someplace where it's 79 degrees every day of the year, but I wonder if I'd tire of it too eventually.

#14 3 months ago
Quoted from pinzrfun:

One of my co workers lived on Maui for about 6 years but moved back to Michigan as soon as she was able. Been there, done that kinda thing. Missed the seasons, and after 6 years had seen every bit of it.
Been to Maui and Oahu, to me it sounds like a dream to live someplace where it's 79 degrees every day of the year, but I wonder if I'd tire of it too eventually.

Seems to be a pretty common. A mailman friend of mine managed to pull off the Newman and got transferred to Hawaii. Enjoyed it for about 5 years then decided he had enough and moved back to RI. Military relatives also enjoyed their time there but would never want to stay for good.

#15 3 months ago
Quoted from adol75:

My buyers are just people from San Francisco who used google street view as a realtor website !

Why ? That's exactly what I want to know

Well, #1, no pinball anywhere , but it's such a small island, hard to go out and do much. We go for 10 days usually, put on 6 or 700 miles in rental car, have seen everything, done most everything. And, the tolls and costs it puts on family and friends to visit , or for you to go visit. Do love the weather, it's usually a 80 to 100 degree temp swing in January when we go, -20 to 80 degrees, so we do love that. I'm not an idle person, cant sit on the beach and drink, I'd go crazy.

#16 3 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

I recommend you spend a week or two visiting the various islands. Each island is different and has a different vibe. Spending a few days on each island should give you a good idea of the lifestyle and people.

Very true. Much of Oahu seems like LA to me. North shore is amazing though. There seems to be a different level of pace on the different islands. Oahu busy. Maui kinda busy. Big Island, more laid back. Kauai completely laid back. And also one of the wettest places on earth with a part of Muai also on the list. (Near Hana I believe) Maui seems to me the easiest to live as you have a little bit of everything. Maui No Kai Oi. Maui is the best.

I used to hear a phrase there that sounds like "geeve em bra". (Go for it) I would check out the different islands and see if one gives you a buzz about living on it for awhile. Not everyone is capable of living for extended periods of time on a rock, but most everyone will tell you they enjoyed it alot. Until they didn't. I've known alot of people who have lived there and nobody has told me they regretted it. Just got bored like others and wanted to come back to the beach here.

#17 3 months ago
Quoted from pinzrfun:

sounds like a dream to live someplace where it's 79 degrees

I agree the weather is nice, but a lot of folks I know who move there full-time often regret it. Some of the reasons:

1. Traffic is horrible in certain areas coupled with most cars driving a minimum of 30 mph under the speed limit (in the left lane).
2. Everything is expensive. Everything.
3. The "Haole" factor. (pronounced how-lee). Means that you are not a local islander (and at some point will be treated as such).
4. Many people taking the ethos of "moving at island time/pace)" to a whole new level. Do not expect services to be provided with any remote sense of punctuality. Everything is slowed way, way down. Can be cool for a bit (especially when escaping the rat race), but after awhile it simply becomes annoying.

With that said, I recommend visiting for a nice holiday. But as for full-time living.....?

#18 3 months ago
Quoted from jamesmc:

Maui is the best

Oahu I call the concrete island. Maui is magical but it also revolves heavily around the tourism industry. The Big Island is huge and has several different climates and topographies to choose from. If I were to look I would check out Pukalani, Kula, Makawao, and Kihei on Maui. Then I would check out Kona on Big Island. You only live once and life is short-if you want a change of attitude and latitude Hawaii is a great place to start.

#19 3 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

If I were to look I would check out Pukalani, Kula, Makawao, and Kihei on Maui. Then I would check out Kona on Big Island.

Absolutely with you. My friends live in Pukalani, Makawao, Kula, and Haiku. Upcountry is really nice. And Kona. All good spots.

#20 3 months ago

Some folks also prefer Molokai because nobody goes there. Perhaps it is the " Welcome to Molokai, now please leave" sign which greets you as you leave the airport...er airfield.

#21 3 months ago

Guy on my Team lives in Hawaii and complains about the AWFUL traffic. Not uncommon for a trip to a job site to take 2 hours on the island due to the congestion. Does not sound fun to me.

#22 3 months ago

Things you may take for granted just aren't there...

Zero roller coasters in the state of Hawaii.

#23 3 months ago

Im looking to buy a second home on Maui but due to the pandemic the prices have skyrocketed. Im from NY so no matter where I purchase a second home I wont ever be treated like a native due to my accent nor do I care to be treated like a native. People always say cost, "Maui is Expensive". Well they have never been to NY. $5 fresh catch MAHI MAHI (2)tacos downtown Lahaina is DIRT CHEAP in my book. We ate at some Burrito place in Lahaina that was super reasonable and my wife and I could have shared 1 meal. Maui has a Costco and WalMart and pricing is almost Identical to NY. If you eat at Lahaina Grill which is a bit pricy its no different than any other decent restaurant that's over priced for mediocre food. Traffic, again im from NY so this is normal for me. I would also be avoiding the time of day that this occurs anyways. Maui has Pipiwai Trail amongst many others. One thing people dont mention about Maui is that it has the highest life expectancy of all the states so be prepared to get a few more years added to your life

#24 3 months ago

Personally, I would continue past Hawaii a few more hours and visit the real South Pacific: French Polynesia, Tahiti, Fiji, Marqueseas, Vanuatu, etc.
The nature in Hawaii is beautiful, but you have to remember that it is in the US and with that comes the not so quaint restaurants in a strip mall atmosphere which has destroyed the islands. Honestly, I would rather not see a Costco, Kmart and TGI Fridays in some tan stucco shopping center. But to each their own.

#25 3 months ago

This post briefly sent me down a rabbit hole. Sadly Tahiti never was “the land of bare-breasted women” that Gauguin painted.

https://www.npr.org/2011/03/15/134537646/gauguins-nude-tahitians-give-the-wrong-impression

#26 3 months ago

Thanks for the article. Very interesting.

#27 3 months ago

Fun fact. Big island in Hawaii has the best surf, but the least amount of people. Strange. Must be a big volcano

#28 3 months ago

I've heard most people who can afford to do so send their kids to private schools because the public schools are kinda bad. But you didn't mention kids so that may not be a factor. You might have to wake up earlier than you'd like for teleconferences, because of the time zone.

#29 3 months ago
Quoted from adol75:

(Las Vegas, Georgia, SC, Texas)

These states you mention are free states…Hawaii not so much…if that matters to you

#30 3 months ago

I feel like watching Forgetting Sarah Marshall again. Good flick. That’s all i’ve got, i’ve never been to Hawaii (yet).

#31 3 months ago

just sold our home on Maui last week. prices have gone ballistic "good for us" but not so much if your moving there. Island has grown up a lot in last 10 years. Airport expanded, highway bypass built to handle more traffic but if your on west side the traffic can still be a nightmare. Prices have skyrocketed at restaurants and that's if you can get in. Many are suffering severe worker shortages. Lahaina staple just closed after 36 years because owner just couldn't get chefs. Mama's fish house is now booked out months in advance. On the bright side though it's 83 degrees every day and you probably won't ever wear pants again.

#32 3 months ago
Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:

These states you mention are free states…Hawaii not so much…if that matters to you

LOLWAT

#33 3 months ago
Quoted from Thompson69:

On the bright side though it's 83 degrees every day and you probably won't ever wear pants again.

On my way soon, I have an open invite from my brother. I hate pants and shitty weather.

#34 3 months ago
Quoted from swampfire:

On my way soon, I have an open invite from my brother. I hate pants and shitty weather.

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#35 3 months ago

I hope he tells us to burn our pants, these things are driving me nuts!

#36 3 months ago

I assume he's being cute and means "republican"? But doesn't realize Las Vegas isn't a state, or that Nevada and Georgia were blue states in the last election...so I guess I dont know what he means either now that you mention it...

#37 3 months ago
Quoted from Thompson69:

just sold our home on Maui last week. prices have gone ballistic "good for us" but not so much if your moving there. Island has grown up a lot in last 10 years. Airport expanded, highway bypass built to handle more traffic but if your on west side the traffic can still be a nightmare. Prices have skyrocketed at restaurants and that's if you can get in. Many are suffering severe worker shortages. Lahaina staple just closed after 36 years because owner just couldn't get chefs. Mama's fish house is now booked out months in advance. On the bright side though it's 83 degrees every day and you probably won't ever wear pants again.

My wife and I were just there a few months ago. Mama's Fish House was one of the best meals I have ever eaten! Great place! While it was very difficult to get reservations, when we arrived we saw several people walk in and get seated fairly quickly. Maybe they reserve some tables for walk-ins?
I included a pic from our table. Absolutely stunning view!

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#38 3 months ago

We vacationed in Oahu and Maui 7 or 8 years ago. It was great. I actually preferred Oahu. I like cities, and while the congestion was pretty bad, we were on vacation so it didn't really bother me. We drove around the entire island, and I found it to be really accessible and pretty diverse in terms of environment. We spent a couple of nights on the North shore.

Maui was great too. I threw out my back just because of the stress of driving on the road to Hana. It was a beautiful drive, but taking those single lane corners wasn't fun for me. The locals take those things with a crazy amount of speed and carelessness. The island also seemed to shut down pretty darn early.

I like pretty much every place I visit, and I like to research what it's like to live in those places. I found HI was going to be too expensive to maintain close to our lifestyle, have crazy traffic (2nd only to LA in my research) and with kids probably not the best environment for them to grow up in. What also blew my mind was the lack of people on their decks/patios in any of the apartment buildings.

I am pretty interested in other similar locales to split time when I retire. I'd love to spend a month or two a year enjoying island life to escape the snow.

#39 3 months ago

My dad's uncle, whom I had heard of, but never met until my brother's wedding, had moved out to Hawaii about 50 years prior. I got to get a few drinks with him and learn his story. He was an architect on his way to Japan to start a job. His flight got delayed or canceled, so he left the airport, went on a bender, and settled in with a prostitute. After he cleaned himself off he decided to stick around. He married a local girl and stayed the rest of his days on the Big Island. He loved it.

#40 3 months ago

BJ Penn says it sucks now and he is a native. I think it is mainly for political reasons he thinks that way, but if you are used to California you might like it.

#41 3 months ago

I hear it is very hard to bring pets to Hawaii so if you have a dog or something you should check into what is required.

#42 3 months ago

My dad was on vacation on Maui, chartered a little sailboat for the day from a young guy, around 27. Asked him how he ended up there. He said he was there on vacation from New Jersey, in February. The day he was supposed to go home, he asked his dad to sell his car and send him the money. Bought the little sailboat and had been there ever since.

#43 3 months ago

Thank you everyone, this is all super useful. My wife was happy with the price they offered us but I had to interject that Hawaii is a pinball desert so I needed to add a pinball budget for a decent collection, well more like DECENT ! So I added my budget and am now waiting for my happy buyers to tell me to go F*** myself
So if you see a dozen wanted ads popping tomorrow you will know what happened.

I do see prices are very similar to SF however property tax is way lower in Hawaii so thats a big save for us, actually enough to send the kids to private schools which seems to be the only way to get proper education. Income tax is also slightly lower, although I do day dream about Nevada but I'm more concerned about my kids safety probably my highest priority in where we end up going.

We have two dogs, who are family so they are not staying behind for sure, it does look challenging to bring dogs, the quarantine rule is a bit unclear but I'm not excited to leave them both in a quarantine center for 4 months.

Starting to look around for houses, it does look crazy but actually less than what we have here where bidding wars can double an asking price without any connection to reality.

More to come later, I have been learning a lot on the way, definitely appreciate the feedback.

1 week later
#44 3 months ago

Epilogue, I was to greedy

No pinballs for me, and no Hawaii for now !

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