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California power companies shut off power for thousands.


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    #401 14 days ago

    Is this a food fight?

    #402 14 days ago

    Got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

    #403 14 days ago
    Quoted from romulusx:

    Your kidding. Right?

    Nope. I just don't go for the group think most are into.

    #404 14 days ago

    The news is saying that a tree branch went across the power lines that caused a fire. Seems like an act of nature to me and should be supported by FEMA, but again they don’t look at wildfires that way. Strong winds and snow damage utility lines. I looked at a job where last years snow knocked down several fiberglass power poles that feed major communications towers. Environmental will not let the work happen and it costs some big money to keep their generators going. In the end it really is safer to cut power and patrol those lines before allowing electricity to flow again. Major inconvenience? Most definitely I personally hate when my power goes out just like everyone else. Again we should look at better legislation possibly. Or possibly with my one job someone should go shoot or encourage that woodpecker to leave. Animals and trees sometimes have more rights than a community when your a company. We usually have had a bad time with arsonist and maybe still do and it’s easier to go after companies with money. Which then starts the whole whoever the last company to touch that pole gets the bill game.

    #405 14 days ago
    Quoted from Buzz:

    The news is saying that a tree branch went across the power lines that caused a fire.

    I remember last years Paradise fires had some YouTube videos suggesting laser beams from space...then some dude who fled paradise came to my house afterwards for something I was selling on CL and he started going on about laser beams...and I was just like what heck man, is this another controlled demolition?

    #406 14 days ago
    Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:

    I remember last years Paradise fires had some YouTube videos suggesting laser beams from space...then some dude who fled paradise came to my house afterwards for something I was selling on CL and he started going on about laser beams...and I was just like what heck man, is this another controlled demolition?

    Lots of evidence out there in the recent past of it that's for sure. Burst into flame wooden post guard rails furiously blazing away when the dry trees close by have no damage. Also cars that are burned with unusally hot fire and houses too when the houses are cars next door are fine.

    It just doesn't add up to what you'd expect out of a wild fire.

    Google or youtube :DEW lasers

    #407 14 days ago

    I’ve seen where hunters have accidentally shot the power lines hunting and the wire breaks causing fires. Usually shotguns.

    #408 14 days ago

    naw its ultra clean windows that reflect sunlight and turn it into a solar laser beam. they are going to have to legislate that you can't wash your cars or windows in your house to keep fires from happening

    #409 14 days ago

    I see the Governor is asking Warren Buffet to buy PG&E....

    #410 14 days ago

    That would be interesting if he did. Not so great for the top employees and their bonuses. Great time to buy some stock if he does.

    #411 14 days ago

    Sure... make my baby berks even more worthless.

    #412 13 days ago
    Quoted from jamesmc:

    I guessing CALI is gonna be just fine either way. If it were a country it would have the worlds 5th biggest economy.

    That will change. Its inevitable that when people are leaving, so will work. I know many people who have closed up shop in Cali, along with there small business, and moved to AZ. If that is happening daily/weekly, Cali will begin to see the affects, if they arent already. I do hope they stay a sanctuary state though!!!

    #413 13 days ago

    I remember when there weren't so many fires.

    Before people with no water started building extensively out in brushland.

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    #414 13 days ago
    Quoted from SimpleSam:

    now that I am no longer tied to CA, there is not enough money in the world to get me to move back again.

    Wow! Reno must be a truly awesome place if there is no amount of money to get you to leave it for California.

    Let me guess:

    You love hot and shitty weather 8 months of the year followed by cold and shitty weather 4 months a year
    You love smoky, dank, run down gambling establishments with scantily clad 53 year old waitresses named Flo or Fern.
    You love to frequent houses of prostitution which feature hostesses whose average age is again 53 years old and named Flo or Fern.

    How close was I?

    #415 13 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    You love hot and shitty weather 8 months of the year followed by cold and shitty weather 4 months a year

    Your describing the four seasons. Most of the country enjoys winter sports, beauty of springtime, summer fun and camping, and fall colors and hunting/fishing, etc.

    Quoted from vicjw66:

    You love smoky, dank, run down gambling establishments with scantily clad 53 year old waitresses named Flo or Fern.

    Your describing every dive bar in America. If you enjoy nightlife, it's fun to hang in a bar where everyone knows your name.

    #416 13 days ago

    When there is blood in the streets buy property?

    The original quote is believed to be "Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own." Most people only want winners in their portfolios, but as Warren Buffett warned "You pay a very high price in the stock market for a cheery consensus."Jun 29, 2019

    #417 13 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    Wow! Reno must be a truly awesome place if there is no amount of money to get you to leave it for California.
    Let me guess:
    You love hot and shitty weather 8 months of the year followed by cold and shitty weather 4 months a year
    You love smoky, dank, run down gambling establishments with scantily clad 53 year old waitresses named Flo or Fern.
    You love to frequent houses of prostitution which feature hostesses whose average age is again 53 years old and named Flo or Fern.
    How close was I?

    Wow you sound so negative,just relax and take it easy

    #418 13 days ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    I remember when there weren't so many fires.
    Before people with no water started building extensively out in brushland.

    Do you mean when Antelope Valley used to be the Mojave Desert?

    #419 13 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Do you mean when Antelope Valley used to be the Mojave Desert?

    Something like that. The wind is whipping today and smoke is everywhere. Reagan library is surounded by flames.

    Hate to say it, but if man won't stop building where he has no business doing so, nature will find a way to push him out.

    #420 13 days ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    Something like that. The wind is whipping today and smoke is everywhere. Reagan library is surounded by flames.
    Hate to say it, but if man won't stop building where he has no business doing so, nature will find a way to push him out.

    Lots of that going on everywhere. Those who don't study the past are doomed to repeat it. I visited family recently where I grew up and saw all kinds of new homes along the Chattahoochee River, which I've seen flood massively twice in my life. Same with development along the beaches in Panama City and other places, which get hit periodically by powerful Hurricanes.

    #421 13 days ago

    They are getting closer. Just a few miles from where I am sitting. Sirens roaring and fire trucks screaming by.

    https://patch.com/california/diamondbar-walnut/brea-fire-57-freeway-shut-down-diamond-bar

    #422 13 days ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    And when the big quake hits we may finally become our own country.

    All I heard most of my life is about the "big one" hitting us. And then you learn that the San Andreas fault is just a little cousin of the Cascadia fault from Washington. 30 times more powerful with a tsunami coming after. FEMA director was quoted as saying west of 5 near Seattle will be, "toast" from just the quake. Scientists figure San Andreas capable of 8.2. Cascadia capable of 9.2. Won't be the damage down here in San Clemente as other places from San Andreas. And most of my life I thought that avocados were either Hass or Fuerte till I met you. I've got plenty of water and my avocado trees to get me by till I get the f out here if it hits when I'm here. Getting ready next month for my first batch of Sir Prize avocados. Supposed to last in the fridge like the Reeds you gave me.

    #423 13 days ago
    Quoted from romulusx:

    Wow you sound so negative,just relax and take it easy

    I am relaxed and taking it easy. I’m just ribbing the guy same as he ribs us Californians. It’s all good fun.

    #424 13 days ago

    Lot of fires starting up with all this wind. Leaves are all over my property. Driving to work and this just started up.

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    #425 13 days ago

    Dang, that sux. Hope you guys are watching out and being careful. We deal with wildfires every summer up here. Hate seeing people lose everything.

    #426 13 days ago

    Yep, traffic was a mess during my usual 10 minute commute.

    Fortunately those out of towners trying to bypass the 57 freeway don't know my shortcuts.

    #427 12 days ago
    Quoted from Tomass:

    Dang, that sux. Hope you guys are watching out and being careful. We deal with wildfires every summer up here. Hate seeing people lose everything.

    Thank you for your concern. It is a little scary seeing and hearing about all these fires. What I don’t understand is all these pinsiders hating on us and our state for these natural disasters. I don’t think any of us Californians have hated on other pinsiders for their natural disasters. I assure you, that I didn’t hate on or bash Louisiana people because you didn’t stop or prepare for hurricane Katrina and the damage it did. I didn’t bash on Texas for hurricane Harvey, nor New Jersey for Sandy. But somehow it’s ok for everyone to blame our natural disasters on the “Libtards” that run the state. And some guy from Reno of all places trashes us and when I jokingly defend Ca I’m the bad guy.

    #428 12 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    Thank you for your concern. It is a little scary seeing and hearing about all these fires. What I don’t understand is all these pinsiders hating on us and our state for these natural disasters. I don’t think any of us Californians have hated on other pinsiders for their natural disasters. I assure you, that I didn’t hate on or bash Louisiana people because you didn’t stop or prepare for hurricane Katrina and the damage it did. I didn’t bash on Texas for hurricane Harvey, nor New Jersey for Sandy. But somehow it’s ok for everyone to blame our natural disasters on the “Libtards” that run the state. And some guy from Reno of all places trashes us and when I jokingly defend Ca I’m the bad guy.

    No worries, it’s all good.

    #429 12 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    Thank you for your concern. It is a little scary seeing and hearing about all these fires. What I don’t understand is all these pinsiders hating on us and our state for these natural disasters. I don’t think any of us Californians have hated on other pinsiders for their natural disasters. I assure you, that I didn’t hate on or bash Louisiana people because you didn’t stop or prepare for hurricane Katrina and the damage it did. I didn’t bash on Texas for hurricane Harvey, nor New Jersey for Sandy. But somehow it’s ok for everyone to blame our natural disasters on the “Libtards” that run the state. And some guy from Reno of all places trashes us and when I jokingly defend Ca I’m the bad guy.

    Yeah, politics is bad enough anytime, but times of tragedy people especially need to pull together and help each other. I'm sure there is a forum they can go argue politics and anything else they want, but we should be reaching out to help or at least support. Sending prayers to everyone down there. Stay safe!

    #430 12 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    What I don’t understand is all these pinsiders hating on us and our state for these natural disasters.

    The other states don't have someone constantly trolling for a response on Pinside.

    #431 12 days ago
    Quoted from mcluvin:

    The other states don't have someone constantly trolling for a response on Pinside.

    Don’t even know what you are talking about. But McLuvin was from Cali.

    #432 12 days ago

    I only know what I read on the internet, which is that Cali is experiencing more and more fires. And more and more people are moving into harm's way.

    With the earthquakes that hit Cali from time to time, earthquake insurance for your home is prohibitively expensive. What I read somewhere this morning is that some people were burned out in a previous fire, rebuilt, and now they are getting burned out again ( I don't know if that is true. I just read about it).

    My question: Could it come to the point that the insurance companies say they will not insure against fire? Or could it come to the point the insurance companies refuse to insure homes in certain areas? Or could fire insurance become so expensive that no one can afford it?

    Thoughts?

    https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-worsening-wildfires-explained/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIls_x5t_G5QIVA9vACh3XNwmPEAAYASAAEgIqMfD_BwE

    #433 12 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    I only know what I read on the internet, which is that Cali is experiencing more and more fires. And more and more people are moving into harm's way.
    With the earthquakes that hit Cali from time to time, earthquake insurance for your home is prohibitively expensive. What I read somewhere this morning is that some people were burned out in a previous fire, rebuilt, and now they are getting burned out again ( I don't know if that is true. I just read about it).
    My question: Could it come to the point that the insurance companies say they will not insure against fire? Or could it come to the point the insurance companies refuse to insure homes in certain areas? Or could fire insurance become so expensive that no one can afford it?
    Thoughts?
    https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-worsening-wildfires-explained/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIls_x5t_G5QIVA9vACh3XNwmPEAAYASAAEgIqMfD_BwE

    Well I know insurance companies have denied coverage to people living near the ocean in areas known to get hit hard regularly so I would say yes to your question. Hopefully not though.

    #434 12 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    earthquake insurance for your home is prohibitively expensive.

    I never even priced it. Just throw the offer in the trash each time it shows up.

    Thinking I may roll the dice and get it when I can predict when the big one is going to hit.

    #435 12 days ago

    We have always had bad fire seasons. I don’t know why this year is any different. Except for the fact that now people are suing power companies and they are turning off power to defend against it.

    #436 11 days ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    You love smoky, dank, run down gambling establishments with scantily clad 53 year old waitresses named Flo or Fern.

    Lol! The casinos in downtown Reno are pretty shitty.

    But the oldest waitress I’ve seen was in Vegas. She was running the comped well drinks to the slots at the Westgate when we stayed there last Xmas.

    No crap - she was in her 80s. And wearing the same costume as all the other ones.

    God bless her - still working hard at her age - but she did look a bit like the old lady on the Playboy backglass.

    Re the fires - an NZ ambassador lives off Sunset in Hollywood, he was on our NZ radio a few days ago saying that he had to be evacuated for his house. Pretty crazy.

    All I can say - make Salton Seas great again.

    rd

    #437 11 days ago

    These eucalyptus trees were not supposed to be in California to begin with. They are fragile and can start a fire instantly. I have so many of them around my property and they are huge. I dont even know where to start to get rid of them.

    Side note, I just got home after a week without electricity, I have 30 pounds of meat and 20 of fish that can go straight to garbage. No more food hoarding in Norcal I guess.

    #438 11 days ago
    Quoted from adol75:

    These eucalyptus trees were not supposed to be in California to begin with. They are fragile and can start a fire instantly. I have so many of them around my property and they are huge. I dont even know where to start to get rid of them.
    Side note, I just got home after a week without electricity, I have 30 pounds of meat and 20 of fish that can go straight to garbage. No more food hoarding in Norcal I guess.

    My whole neighborhood is littered with these trees and I have the biggest one on my block. The branches are so brittle with no flexibility. Every time we get a strong wind or heavy rain, small branches (4-10 feet) from the thing break off and fall on my front lawn or roof and every fall the leaves litter the neighborhood. Hopefully the really big branches don’t break off.

    #439 10 days ago
    Quoted from rotordave:

    All I can say - make Salton Seas great again.

    Your wish is my command.

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    #440 10 days ago

    I watched this the other night. A lot of interesting insights.

    https://www.pbs.org/video/fire-in-paradise-ncamrn/

    #441 10 days ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    Isnt the earth a closed system? Water gets used, evaporates, goes back into the atmosphere, falls as rain, gets used again....we cant run out of water, where would it go?

    Our planet is not exactly a fish tank !

    #442 10 days ago
    Quoted from Nevus:

    I watched this the other night. A lot of interesting insights.
    https://www.pbs.org/video/fire-in-paradise-ncamrn/

    That was interesting.

    #443 9 days ago

    If you want to know if people are moving in our out of your area check this out. https://flowsmapper.geo.census.gov/map.html

    #444 8 days ago
    Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

    If you want to know if people are moving in our out of your area check this out

    People move out of this area when someone offers them crazy money for their house so they can move into this area.

    #445 6 days ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    People move out of this area when someone offers them crazy money for their house so they can move into this area.

    Yep, when you sell at top dollar you frequently have to buy at top dollar. You get priced out of the market. So it makes sense to sell the home and move to a more affordable area. Just sucks when you have to leave working kids/grandkids in the area.

    Check out the flow mapper I posted above and you can see where people are moving to from Orange County and San Deigo and who is replacing them.

    #446 5 days ago
    Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

    Yep, when you sell at top dollar

    Perhaps when you sorta take notice of a lessor, beat up house in the neighborhood selling for top dollar.

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    #448 5 days ago

    "Off Topic Alert".

    Saw something interesting yesterday. That forest fire that took out that whole town, the Camp Fire in 2018. There was a Sasquatch that needed medial aid, some firemen found it unconscious, with singed legs and arms, they got it on a stretcher (?), and were giving it some oxygen. While moving it to a safe place closer to a command center, the military showed up and took the Big Foot away. Does the government have a Sasquatch or not. There was a smoky photo of 2 fireman crouched over a dark furry something or other...

    Added 4 days ago:

    See correction a few posts down.

    #449 4 days ago
    Quoted from Darcy:

    Does the government have a Sasquatch or not.

    Vid did disappear about a year ago.

    #450 4 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    I only know what I read on the internet, which is that Cali is experiencing more and more fires. And more and more people are moving into harm's way.
    With the earthquakes that hit Cali from time to time, earthquake insurance for your home is prohibitively expensive. What I read somewhere this morning is that some people were burned out in a previous fire, rebuilt, and now they are getting burned out again ( I don't know if that is true. I just read about it).
    My question: Could it come to the point that the insurance companies say they will not insure against fire? Or could it come to the point the insurance companies refuse to insure homes in certain areas? Or could fire insurance become so expensive that no one can afford it?
    Thoughts?
    https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-worsening-wildfires-explained/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIls_x5t_G5QIVA9vACh3XNwmPEAAYASAAEgIqMfD_BwE

    Regarding your insurance questions, the answer is yes, that point is here now. I know some people from the burn areas who have that exact problem. They can’t get insurance, or it simply costs a fortune.

    However, the fires are Not increasing recently, no way. There have always been fires in CA, going way back before recent times when we decided to fill it up with people. Most of CA is a dry desert and has been for a long time. There have been many huge fires in the dry forests for many years, mostly caused by lightning strikes. Big fires that encroach into housing areas are nothing new, I have seen them happen in person going back to the 70s. You just hear more about them now because of the internet and increased communication. And yes, there continues to be more and more building out into dry, crackly areas with lots of fuel to go up in flames. The Santa Ana winds have always been here and they drive the humidity down to near zero and fan the flames. Mostly unspoken in the popular news is that a good portion of the fires are caused by ahole fire bug arsonists. They live for the days when the Santa Ana wins come and go out to set fires. Several have been caught red handed during this recent group of fires. Did you read about it? And in more recent times we have lots of vagrants living out and about in dry outskirts. Either through carelessness or intentionally that have set many of these recent fires. It’s not politically correct to name them as the cause so you generally won’t hear about it.

    Places like Paradise where the big Camp fire was continue to be built up because lots of people want to live in the beautiful woods. That placed burned up in 2008 also. They rebuilt and expanded after that. It probably will burn up again. But they will rebuild there in the meantime.

    The whole thing seems similar to me as areas in the Midwest in the flood plains of the big rivers. Lots of people live there, expanding and happy until a major flood rolls around and wipes them out, then they rebuild. And after a while another flood comes and wipes them out again. Then they rebuild. On it goes.

    That Mother Nature can really be a bitch sometimes, that’s what it comes down to.

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