Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:The ocean
Where it evaporates again, and falls as fresh water...
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Quoted from o-din:I had to make a decision, and that was I was priced out of there, and I wasn't going to work my fingers to the bone to stay, just to get priced out later on. You've seen my spread, it's not so bad.
We have a house in Reno where we're moving after my granddaughter graduates high school in 7 years. We only purchased this house 4 years ago for granddaughter and don't have a prop 13 advantage to utilize on it and lower our taxes. You on the other hand have all advantages and a great place to live other than evil people using leafblowers.
Quoted from PiperPinball:and there is no reason PGE has to have overhead transmission lines. They can put them in the ground.
There’s probably some California law protecting some endangered underground bug and PGE wouldn’t be allowed to stick even one shovel in the dirt.
Quoted from jamesmc:We have a house in Reno where we're moving after my granddaughter graduates high school in 7 years. We only purchased this house 4 years ago for granddaughter and don't have a prop 13 advantage to utilize on it and lower our taxes. You on the other hand have all advantages and a great place to live other than evil people using leafblowers.
I spent a lot of time researching what I could get in San Clemente and take my Prop 13 with me. Rules says it has to be newer than 1983 and lessor value than my home. It doesn't leave much on ocean side of I-5. And I don't want to live in a condo on the other side. Even the lovely towns of Oceanside and Carlsbad don't fit the plan if I want a house now.
So yeah, I'm content where I am without a hurry or a worry in the world. I take on the leaf blowers one at a time. They will be extinct someday. With some of the rules this state comes up with, I'm surprised they aren't already
Wichita, KS
Quoted from o-din:If you left California in say 1980, the population was close to 24 million, and now it is close to 40 million. Most in So Cal I believe.
In that time, building never stopped, so places you might have gone to or not out in the boonies, are today's housing projects.
Take south Orange County for example where there wasn't much between Santa Ana and San Clemente. It is now fully built up the entire way.
And on the north end the area around Magic Mountain which used to be way out in the sticks, is now a major metropolis.
My aunt sold her home in Gardena in 1981 or 1982. She had been living there for years and worked for Hughes. She took her proceeds and moved back to Kansas and bought 2 homes. Today, the numbers are bigger but the trend continues. Sell high priced Cali real estate and move inland ( and jack up the prices so the locals with non-Cali wages get priced out.
There are more people around here, as well. Especially Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas.
In the early 70s I was in the military, stationed near Dallas. I drove home to Wichita 2 or 3 times per year via the straight route of I-35. I always drove at night. The traffic would be moderate between Dallas and Oklahoma City. Once I got through OK City the Interstate was mine. I rarely saw another car. I could turn on my brights and leave them on. Those days are gone.
It does not matter what time of day or night, on the Interstate between OKC and Wichita there is always another car in sight. Always. Most of the time I don't even bother to turn my brights on because I'll be dimming them again in 20 seconds.
That's my myopic gauge for saying there are more people in the mid-west.
And, yes, we do have a lot more sub-developments around than there used to be. But nothing like what you guys in Cali deal with.
Dallas/Ft. Worth iarea s much different from my home in Kansas. Houses are being built everywhere down there. It used to be 30 miles of open highway between Denton TX and Dallas. Now it is wall-to-wall freeway businesses---and houses.
I go down to Ft. Worth now and the traffic sucks. But people coming in from California think the traffic is not bad at all.
I've been tempted to go to Wichita, where I can work the soil and watch the sweat drip from every pore.
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:Sarah Silverman lol. Is her 15 minutes over? I don’t like potty mouth women like her
Yeah Sarah has got some real hate for Jesus. Sick woman.
She needs....well.....JESUS. =)
Quoted from o-din:This isn't all that bad. Slow day so I've got my feet up on the desk and am watching the palm trees sway in the breeze.
Where else in the country are they going to pay me to do that?
All BS aside, i once asked my grandfather how he ended up in Cheyenne, Wyoming, where i was eventually born. He immigrated with his brother from Italy, joined the Army and after his service was up, he got hired by the UPRR in the late 40s. They gave him a choice between Cheyenne, Wy and San Diego....Dang Gramps!!!!! WTH lol. His brother settled in Colorado(non Army) and farmed. So of course they wanted to be close. I really do love Cali, but its being destroyed.
Quoted from Roostking:They gave him a choice between Cheyenne, Wy and San Diego....Dang Gramps!!!!! WTH lol. His brother settled in Colorado(non Army) and farmed. So of course they wanted to be close.
You didn't miss much.
a781026daa8974dd243d364f71af2753 (resized).jpgQuoted from o-din:I've been tempted to go to Wichita, where I can work the soil and watch the sweat drip from every pore.
Ha Ha Ha. A shovel does not fit my hands very well 
You can work my share of the soil, as well. And you will sweat. All you have to do is sit down in a lawn chair and start sweating.
But if you ever are coming this way, send me a PM. you are welcome to come on in and play my pins.
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O-Din, we don't want to see ANY of those girls today.
You are not gonna f'in believe this; My sister sent me that exact postcard when she moved to San Diego in 1980. Check out the back of the card; Hard to see, but postmark is June, 1980. Note 10¢ stamp. She mailed it to the long-gone route operator I worked for at the time.
Those girls are probably no so hot today being in their late '50's or early '60's....
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Quoted from MrBally:Those girls are probably no so hot today being in their late '50's or early '60's....
You are probably be right.
If you did not see her in this movie.
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Then you may recognize her as the car wash girl in Cool Hand Luke.
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now, she is someone's grandma.
Quoted from cottonm4:You are probably be right.
If you did not see her in this movie.
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Then you may recognize her as the car wash girl in Cool Hand Luke.
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now, she is someone's grandma.
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yes, as decades go by people
Become older. Even hot women in ancient movies.
Quoted from Roostking:Yea, because repubs run the state of Cali lol. Get real dude.
You have a point. But utilities are a little different. My sister is pretty high up in a certain Southern California utility and she told me it’s Trump country at work and she has to be careful what she says around her colleagues. By land area, California is mostly red.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:yes, as decades go by people
Become older. Even hot women in ancient movies.
What a lovely two-line poem, Levi. The gentle command to "Become older." and accept yourself, even if you were a hot woman, is pure genius with its anti-suicide theme. Bravo!
Or maybe you just accidentally hit the return key on your phone?
Quoted from vicjw66:You have a point. But utilities are a little different. My sister is pretty high up in a certain Southern California utility and she told me it’s Trump country at work and she has to be careful what she says around her colleagues. By land area, California is mostly red.
But I’m assuming their regulated by liberal democrats,but we can blame this on Trump it’s just easier for you and the media
Quoted from o-din:I've been tempted to go to Wichita, where I can work the soil and watch the sweat drip from every pore.
That's funny even if it isn't true that you were thinking of moving to Wichita.
I was tempted to move back to Cali where I can be over regulated while spending 9 weeks a year in traffic.
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:I was tempted to move back to Cali where I can be over regulated while spending 9 weeks a year in traffic.
Population has grown from 15 million here when I was born to 40 million today. As I was eating dinner at a restaurant on our pier, I was thinking how nice it is around here. It looked like a summer day, 75 degrees. I was also thankful that we have clean air where I live. Smoke everywhere up in LA, and we're down here enjoying another incredible day at the beach. Somehow the thoughts of being overregulated weren't in my head. Its damn expensive here with a large (for here) house. Taxes, utilities-But until someone shows me better weather, we're here till my wife retires. I retired or have been unemployed for about 10 years. I don't wait on freeways unless I'm going to an event.
Quoted from Dent00:It appears that some customers are very unhappy with having their service turned off. So much so, that they are threatening utility workers and possibly attacking them. Nothing good will come of that... Perhaps utility workers will need a security escort to enter these areas to do their job and bill that service to the customers also. See attached...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-power-outage-frustrations-pge-office-vandalized-truck-shot
Don't believe ANYTHING Fux News tells you.
Quoted from pinlawyer:Don't believe ANYTHING Fux News tells you.
Shep Smith, Chris Wallace---oops, ok Chris Wallace and a few others are journalists. I haven't read 1984 since the 70s. Gonna reread it with a whole new perspective.
Quoted from cottonm4:But hot cars never die
Dude, that was my car! Same color and all. 1962.
Quoted from jamesmc:Population has grown from 15 million here when I was born to 40 million today. As I was eating dinner at a restaurant on our pier, I was thinking how nice it is around here. It looked like a summer day, 75 degrees. I was also thankful that we have clean air where I live. Smoke everywhere up in LA, and we're down here enjoying another incredible day at the beach. Somehow the thoughts of being overregulated weren't in my head. Its damn expensive here with a large (for here) house. Taxes, utilities-But until someone shows me better weather, we're here till my wife retires. I retired or have been unemployed for about 10 years. I don't wait on freeways unless I'm going to an event.
I was thinking how nice it was around here too. Just took these photos from my balcony.
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Cool picture. I remember in 83 when the storm messed it up. My friend was leading the Tournament of Champions down at La Costa on PGA tour Sat. nite when storm went off. He made himself a huge check while our pier broke up.
Quoted from jamesmc:I remember in 83 when the storm messed it up.
That's when I moved to town. Do they still have all those cool pictures in The Fishermans' bar?
Surfs up!
The_20DayThe_20Pier_20Broke_209_99 (resized).pngYes. Great pictures. Looks like just another day at the Wedge. Pretty awesome to check out the gigantic waves there when it goes off. I've heard Killer Dana was big before they dredged for the harbor.
Call me crazy, but I used to paddle out in that kind of shit. Not that stormy, but did go out on 15 foot days. You paddle until your arms are rubber. Either that or drown.
Quoted from pinlawyer:Don't believe ANYTHING Fux News tells you.
But always always trust CNN,NBC,CBS and especially MSNBC for the absolute truth
Quoted from o-din:Call me crazy, but I used to paddle out in that kind of shit. Not that stormy, but did go out on 15 foot days. You paddle until your arms are rubber. Either that or drown.
There wasn't a lot of fights at our high school, probably cause jocks generally knew, damn surfers are way stronger than most people think. I look young for my age compared to other friends, but saw a guy from school that won a few Waterman surf events. I was in awe that when he was 40 he was still winning Waterman events in CA. We're almost 60 and he looked in better health than some 30 year olds.
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Scantily clad beach babes !
Quoted from o-din:If you left California in say 1980, the population was close to 24 million, and now it is close to 40 million. Most in So Cal I believe.
In that time, building never stopped, so places you might have gone to or not out in the boonies, are today's housing projects.
Take south Orange County for example where there wasn't much between Santa Ana and San Clemente. It is now fully built up the entire way.
And on the north end the area around Magic Mountain which used to be way out in the sticks, is now a major metropolis.
I left Huntington Beach in 1983 and San Francisco in 1998. Can’t say I like the changes in either place since then.
Took my family to Magic Mountain this past May and was staggered by all the houses in that area. Where do these people work? What do they do? And unless you like off road motorcycling or something, what the hell do you do for fun? Couldn’t pay me to live there.
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My grandparents - from MN - wintered every year on Crystal Pier. In those little cabins. You can see them in your postcard. One rainy night we took in a cat that was seemingly living around the pier. We kept her and named her Crystal.
It was a trip. I spent a lot of time in Pacific Beach, but haven’t been there in 20 years.
One day, tripping around town (this was late 1979 and I was about to turn 15) I looked at the bill at this old movie theatre that featured live bands. The place was really small. Old school. I was too late for this gig and had never heard of any of the bands: 20/20, The Boomtown Rats and...Dire Straits.
Quoted from o-din:Dude, that was my car! Same color and all. 1962.
I know. You showed me a pic of yours several months ago before you took a vacation from Pinside. I showed you a pic of my Cascade Green 60.
I posted it just for you. 
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Took my family to Magic Mountain this past May and was staggered by all the houses in that area. Where do these people work? What do they do? And unless you like off road motorcycling or something, what the hell do you do for fun? Couldn’t pay me to live there.
I don't know what they do or where they work, but Magic Mountain is hot as a mutherfkr in the summer. Real hot.
Quoted from jamesmc:There wasn't a lot of fights at our high school, probably cause jocks generally knew, damn surfers are way stronger than most people think. I look young for my age compared to other friends, but saw a guy from school that won a few Waterman surf events. I was in awe that when he was 40 he was still winning Waterman events in CA. We're almost 60 and he looked in better health than some 30 year olds.
I wouldn't trade my time in the water for anything. Moving to SC after high school was the best move I ever made. Probably why I'm still healthy enough to do the things I do. Still got my boards, just need the ambition to make the drive. Shred some waves in front of those youngsters. haha.
Quoted from FlippinJimmy:That's funny even if it isn't true that you were thinking of moving to Wichita.
It was black and looked similar. Fun car to drive around in.
Meanwhile the fires are still raging and they have mandatorily evacuated 100,000 people.
Quoted from cottonm4:I don't know what color your interior was but I'm guessing you recognize this view.
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Somebody in that vehicle has had the tachometer in the red region where there could be engine damage.
I hope that there was no serious issues...
They only have about 50,000 miles, so it would be a shame to damage such a nice vehicle..
Quoted from Dent00:Somebody in that vehicle has had the tachometer in the red region where there could be engine damage.
How can you tell that? I just see a tachometer at rest.
I would not doubt it, though. Many of these cars were driven hard and put away wet.
This is the hi-rev 6500 rpm tach for 315-365 HP engines.
Here is a low rev version for the base engine.
Quoted from cottonm4:How do you all deal with this every year? If not fire, it is the mudslides. And falling rocks.
every area of the country comes with some level of mother nature risk.....my solution is to live in an area thats not susceptible .... my only minor concern is earth quakes, but if u live far enough away from a fault that diminishes drastically...the pros far outweigh the risks.
Quoted from cottonm4:How do you all deal with this every year? If not fire, it is the mudslides. And falling rocks.
Don't live in the areas where this shit happens.
Except about 10 years ago a tornado ripped down my street and dropped 4 trees from the parking into the street, mine included.
Quoted from o-din:Don't live in the areas where this shit happens.
Except about 10 years ago a tornado ripped down my street and dropped 4 trees from the parking into the street, mine included.
Those aren't very common are they? I can't remember one happening in NorCal, but I may be wrong
Quoted from PtownPin:Those aren't very common are they?
No, not at all. I was coming from the Toyota dealer on the other side of town when it ripped right in front of me. I turned around to go around it.
When I got home and saw all those trees in the street, I knew what had happened.
Quoted from cottonm4:How do you all deal with this every year? If not fire, it is the mudslides. And falling rocks.
I grew up in So Cal and moved to Atlanta in 2006. 95% of residents in So Cal live nowhere near the foothills, so their homes aren’t threatened by fire and mudslides. If the fires are really bad the 95% of residents will have issues with smoke from the fires. When fires happen in the outlying foothills it burns up all the plant life. If there’s heavy rain in the next couple of years, before vegetation can grow back, you’ll have mudslides. Again this is only in the outlying foothills.
Sitting in the northern part of OC, right on the border of LA county, there is no smoke or any sign at all the fires are happening beyond what I see on the news. Wind must be blowing the other way.
I had a couple people come in yesterday coming from that area that said the traffic and everything else was a total mess.
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