Yes, I have my MBr set at a volume of 1 because 2 is too loud. Wish I could set it to like 1.5, because 1 is a little too low.

As a comparison, my Whitewater sits next to it at a volume of 7 (and is a bit louder than the MBr at 1, but not as loud as the MBr at 2).

Supposedly on the 1.0.1 software of MBr, the sound levels were too low, so they increased them on version 1.0.2, but then people claimed they were too loud, so they reduced them again on 1.0.3.

However on my MBr-SE (using version 1.0.3), it is loud at level 2, and by the time you get to level 4 or 5, it's just blasting!

And no, I have not changed the speakers or anything...

Just my opinion, so take that for what it's worth.

I have not been very impressed with Rush. I know that some people like it a lot, but as far as recent Sterns go, I would put it well below GZ, JP, AIQ or Bond (though not below LZ).

Though I like the other 3 CGC remakes better than CCr, CCr is still a great game and I would take CGC's build quality and customer support over Stern's.

Again, just someone's opinion who has played a lot of the new Sterns and a lot of the CGC remakes.

You do want to make sure there is no diode on the coil.
If there is, you should cut it.

So when can I come over and play...?

I don't know about CCr, but I added a knocker to my MBr. On it, the knocker DOES activate for replays, and matches, but DOES NOT activate for Extra Balls.

The one exception to this though, is that it DOES trigger for a Special, even though the Special is set to award an Extra Ball.

So, for a "regular" extra ball, it doesn't trigger, but for a "special" extra ball, it does.

Again, this is on MBr, which may or may not be similar to CCr.

I think it will knock on extra balls (both rules-based and points-based) IF you have the point thresholds set to award extra balls.

If you have the point thresholds set to award a replay, then it will not knock on a rules-based extra ball.

It also seems to knock on a Special, even if it is set to award an extra ball, instead of a replay.

Do you have it set to award extra balls when a point threshold is reached? If so, that's probably why.

See my post #10492 in this thread.

At least this has been my experience on MBr, and I suspect that CCr is the same...

It may be that they've finally gotten the parts they needed in quantity, and can ship out a bunch of machines that were already partially built.

So now that CGC is usng their "new" OS system for CCr, has the boot-up time been shortened?

Something that I dislike about my MBr is how long it takes to boot, as it has to load the CGC OS and then boot the B/W OS.

I find that I leave my MBr on all day just because I don't want to wait for it to boot, while my WH20 gets turned on/off since it boots so much faster.

I'm an engineer, so I say the glass is too big.

He's obviously on his way to establish Wet Willie's...
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Well, I doubt the problem is an electronic part, since the electronic parts in the LE and SE+ are the same. They wouldn't be able to build SE+ machines either, if that was the issue.

Most likely the problem is with the fancy wood aprons, the extra sculpted items, (or less likely) the powder coating - since these are the main differences between SE+ and LE machines.

If whoever is making the "laser branded wooden top and cast metal LE Medallion" for the LE is behind schedule, it would make sense to put the LE's on hold and try to get ahead on the SE and SE+.

I understood that they were delivering SE+ machines while waiting on parts for the rest of the LE models. At least in the US, I believe this is true.

As for Canada, I know that there was an issue with getting Canadian UL electrical approvals. I don't know if that has been resolved or not.

Just noticed you are located in Nowra!
I spent several weeks there a few years ago (I was doing contract work at HMS Albatross).
I enjoyed my time there, and may have a chance to go back at some point...though I don't think that I'll ever get used to beetroot on a hamburger!

Well, if you come back here again, let me know and we can get together...

So why do you have the tilt set so tight? You do know that you can adjust that, right?

What brand bands did you have on the flippers / slingshots? Not all are the same. Personally, I prefer Titans over everything else.

Yeah, I am not a fan of SuperBands, just way too bouncy for me. I've never tried Perfectplay.

Planetary stocks parts for the other remakes, so I would assume that they will for CC.

That's probably a good idea. Unfortunately, Planetary is not currently listing CC specific parts on their website. You may need to contact them directly - maybe they just haven't updated the website yet.

Speaking of lockdown bars...has anyone else noticed that the lockdown bars on the remakes (and apparently the lockdown bars being sold by various vendors) don't have the same "feel" as older B/W ones?

The bar on my WH20 (which is right next to my MBr) has a much "smoother" and "rounder" feel to it. The MBr has sort of a "brushed" feel, while the WH20 has more of a "polished" feel.

It's hard to describe, but it's very noticeable. I wish that I could find a source for the smoother lockdown bar.

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. I wasn't talking about any of the powder-coat finishes.

I mean just the standard SE steel lockdown bar. Original B/W machines have a bar that is more polished and smooth (and is also more rounded). The remakes have one that has sort of a brushed feel to it (and is also more angular).

Unfortunately, it appears that various places that have lockdown bars in stock (Marco, Planetary, PinballLife) seem to only have the "new" style.

No, certainly not early Williams. My MBr-SE sits next to my WH20 and the lockdown bars are clearly different.
I believe there was a change made "somewhere" from part# D-12615 to part# A-18240.
Marco refers to them as the same part (and I do believe that they are interchangeable), but they definitely have a different look and feel.

What I don't know is when this part number changed and if it was changed only for the remakes or if Williams made the change before that.
The part listed for the original Monster Bash (and originals AFM, CC, and MM) shows D-12615 as its part#, so I don't know where the "new" A-18240 was first used.

I thought that CGC had two lines going now...one for CC and one for PF. Is that not true?

Many people don't know that the "TOP MEN" guy was also the Rebel Pilot "Porkins" in Star Wars:A New Hope, and was also Lt. Eckhardt in Batman (1989).

Yes, the lack of communication is by far CGC's biggest problem. They make a very high-quality product at a more-than-reasonable price. The slow delivery would be much less of an issue if they just provided a two-sentence status report every 3 months.

I'd love to know if they still plan to do another run of MMr (I've been on a wait list for almost 2 years now), and if so, when. Last I heard about it was at TPF, and that's only because I cornered a guy and asked.

I'm ranked in the 900s and have played CC a fair amount (though I don't own one). It is a little more shallow than AFM, but not by much. I own a MBr which people also say is shallow, but I still enjoy it greatly. I doubt that you'll have much to complain about, and if you grow tired of it (I suspect you really won't), you shouldn't have much trouble selling or trading it.

I doubt that they are sitting around saying "I'm sick of building these old-boring CCr-LE machines. Let's just screw over those customers and build the new-hotness Pulp Fiction instead."

Since it seems that it's the LE machines that are being delayed, most likely it has to do with a delay on parts unique to the LE - probably the carved wood apron. I imagine that they are building whatever they have the parts for, whether that's CCr-SE or Pulp Fiction.

Of course, some information describing the situation would go a long way to reducing people's frustration. I understand that they don't want to post here and get into a back-and-forth flame war. But they could have easily told their distributors WHY the machines are delayed.

While I don't have any "skin in the game" related to CCr, I have been on the waiting list for 2 years for the supposed next run of MMr, but I still don't know when (or if) this is really going to happen.

Exactly. If the makers of the wooden apron said "we can deliver 100 of these a week", but then when delivery was expected to start, they only deliver 15 per week instead...

Does the "new" OS system that CGC uses for CCr make it boot faster than their other remakes?

It's a bit annoying how long it takes my MBr to boot, as it first has to boot the CGC system, and then boot the emulation of the B/W system.
Supposedly, this was going to be improved for CCr, but I never heard if it actually was.

I was hoping that they would have some news about their supposed new run of MMr. I've been on a wait list now for 2 years.

Well, at TPF they told me "near the end of the year" (I assumed they meant THIS year, but you never know!). I was hoping there would be an update, as the end of the year is approaching...

Well, if you wait until they say "It's here!", you will be too late. All the units will have been spoken for already. That's what happened to me on the last run.

Yeah, he claims it's NIB, but somehow it has a lockdown bar on it.
I thought lockdown bars were put on by the distributor/operator.
Was there ever such a thing as a "factory" lockdown bar?

I think it is under the utilities menu.