OK, I have been trolling and watching the Days of our CC LE saga and I am finally going to ask a (simple in my eyes) question. I have been fortunate to have been able to purchase an LE spot. I was fortunate to get my LE through Roger at Starcade which got them through Planetary. I am honestly more grateful to have purchased the LE than bummed about delays. Having said that... I have asked several times about where I am in the queue of the 1250 LE's without much luck. I understand that might be partly due to the fact that my LE is through Starcade who gets their Cactus Canyon LE's through Planetary.

What would personally help me the most. It's obvious that since the LE's are all sold. CGC must know which distributer and 2nd level distributor has games spoken for. I assume that planetary pinball is the vast majority of distributor destinations. How awesome would it be if CGC and or Planetary added a simple webpage that listed the 1250 serial numbers of the LE's, The distributor i.e., Planetary and their status? Seeing other games ship would go a long way in keeping people positive. From what I have seen CGC is in a class by themselves as far as quality. As mentioned by others, I would rather wait longer and get the very best CGC can produce.

One last question. How do some posters here already know their serial number?

The FAQ mentions that the Cowboys vs Aliens was NOT incorporated but other features of CCC were.

I was hoping to read the Cactus canyon remake LE manual and review shots and rules, but CGC doesn't have the manual on their support page.

I am also am a member of the Starcade LE posse.
Currently waiting on Roger for my mirrored backglass to put with my box of Cactus Canyon toys & upgrades from:
Menzel Mods, Wizard Mod, & Pinball Haus to mention a few.
"Saddle up your horses, we got a trail to blaze!"

I ordered these cool speaker covers from them. See picture.

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Is this the correct forum to watch when others receive their Motherload (Cactus Canyon Remake SE+ and LE)? I have not seen any new people mention their games arrived. Just checking. Has there been any more details on the piece that needed to be corrected in December? I remember reading production was ramping up after Christmas, but not sure if that was a reality or someone's hope. It has been interesting following some of the technical issues. Very helpful to learn about issues others are having. Thanks everyone for sharing, I truly appreciate it.

I am curious, being fortunate enough to live near Cactus Canyon in Arizona, does the time configuration have a setting for no daylight savings adjustments?

I just received email confirmation my mirror backglass has "left the building" and is scheduled to arrive near Cactus Canyon on Saturday. YES!

I have seen this edition plate or one similar with a cowboy. It looks nice.
My son is a jeweler, and I am kicking around something in tarnish free Silver and then antiqued a bit so it goes along with the theme.
I will post pics when its done.

It would be cool to have game 626 but if it's a hassle I'll take any. 6/26 is our anniversary.

I prefer the original for sure, not even a close decision.
For "me" it does not work with the theme.
That is why my Mirrored original version for my LE is being DELIVERED on Monday. A MINUTE after submitting my post the doorbell rang. Guess what arrived?
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The packing was outstanding. Sandwiched between to honeycomb slabs of cardboard was the glass which was also enveloped in another layer of cardboard!
Thank you Roger!

I had to edit my post after I just noticed a huge cool factor. Take a look at my mirrored backglass and compare it with the stock Chicago Gaming translite. The new mirrored backglass also has the Bally Logo! If that isn't the coolest bit of homage to be given, I don't know a cooler one. I am even more excited that I upgraded it.

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I went with black. My thinking was to focus your eye to the awesome cabinet art instead of the leg mounts. I'd love to show you the more subtle look, however, my protectors are in a box with all of my mods I have been collecting for my LE, propped against the wall with my awesome mirrored backglass. LMAO! After reading about the early games having the leg decal damage potential I went with black. But I have heard (correct me if I am wrong) the problem was fixed, and the legs do not even touch the cabinet art so I may not even put them on if they are not actually protecting anything. Thoughts?

Yea, it's kind of like taping the brochure of your new Shelby GT500 to the floor of your garage so you can show your friends! The vacant hole in my gameroom is depressing. Ha Ha

In support of the many depressed Cactus Canyonites that are patiently waiting for their game to arrive, can news strictly regarding game arrival or news about CHC production be posted in "We’re moving to Cactus Canyon! Official Preorder thread" By jfh (1 year ago)- Last post 11 days ago? While I am grateful you guys are identifying and correcting issues I might encounter, I really just want to hear about deliveries and production news. Anything else is just depressing. What do you think? You guys have arrived in Cactus Canyon. We are still waiting for boxes to be unpacked. LOL

Reposting because it might have become buried with troubleshooting posts....

In support of the many depressed Cactus Canyonites that are patiently waiting for their game to arrive, can news strictly regarding game arrival or news about CHC production be posted in "We’re moving to Cactus Canyon! Official Preorder thread" By jfh (1 year ago)- Last post 11 days ago? While I am grateful you guys are identifying and correcting issues I might encounter, I really just want to hear about deliveries and production news. Anything else is just depressing. What do you think? You guys have arrived in Cactus Canyon. We are still waiting for boxes to be unpacked. LOL

I thought the later games corrected this with slightly thicker standoffs, so legs no longer touch artwork. My thought was that if that is true, and I remember someone sliding paper under the leg to prove that there is no contact then there is really no reason to install the black cabinet protectors I bought. Correct?

Yea Baby!

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In my daily review of collected example pictures. The one attached is my current desktop background. Ok, maybe I need therapy, but it helps pass the waiting time looking at pictures and enjoying unboxing videos while I wait for my own LE. In researching more about the amazing Lyman Sheats, I recently noticed something really cool on the attached picture. If you look in the lower right of the picture you see a Cactus Canyon SE game being worked on. (After looking at it has the LE side rails, so maybe topper was not installed yet.) The cool thing is the display shows "CODE CHAMPION" and then the Initials "LFS". It literally gave me goosebumps. What a cool thing is that! Now that brings me to my question. What is going on to display that? More just curious. I love easter eggs. Anybody know?

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Freaking Awesome!

Where's Waldo? Or would it be more of a "Highlights" hidden picture deal? I guess I just dated myself eh?
I see 7 people in the picture.

Scrolling through pictures of OTHER people's LE's shouting LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!

Speaking of which... Any updated rumors on the saloon door LFS Package?

Was there any detail of timeframe, or is this "vaporware" and no real details?

Ever get the feeling that ordering a NIB CGC game is like getting your significant other pregnant?
You get all excited when the decision is made, and invoice is received.
You have a model reveal party. YES, were having an LE!
You buy all sort of bling from Menzel Mods, Pinball Haus, Pinball life, Wizard Mod and Planetary Pinball to name a few.
You get the game room all setup for the new arrival.
You feast on pictures and unboxing videos while you grow weary.
You fight the temptation to become cranky with a bad attitude. "This is my first and last NIB CGC game!".
Labor pains kick in when you get the notice you are ready to deliver.
The long process has tested your faith and possibly damaged a few relationships.
That lovely smell of virgin plastic as you remove the bag off of suffocated Bart. Call the undertaker!
That first DMD greeting by the Cactus Canyon splash screen.
All of the pain is gone, and you begin considering selling another pin to afford the next CGC creation.
Chicago Gaming Corporation. The best pinball source available.

Hanging out on Pinside, is like taking Lamaze classes. I am grateful that I am not alone on this adventure.

I hate to ask, but after reading your post, it brought a question to mind. What happens in the event an LE falls off a truck and is destroyed? Does the poor owner get a replacement LE game? I would hope that would be the case, but with Murphy's Law in full effect I wanted the real answer if known. It would totally suck to finally get a refund instead of the game you have been waiting for.

Great news, Congrats!

I have to admit the mirrored back glass sure looks nicer than my picture with no game to install it in, sniff sniff! LOL

I am hearing several distributors mentioned here. I am curious...
How many out there are waiting to hear back from Roger at Starcade for your LE like I am?
He won't tell me how many has been given from Planetary, which is fine.
But not being able to tell me how many are ahead of me in line waiting makes no sense.

I'd say more like a steady drip. LOL

I posted a simple question asking if ANY Pinsiders had purchased their game through Roger at Starcade and all I got was crickets. Does this mean that I am the only one waiting with very little to no communication from my distributor/reseller? Maybe my post was quickly buried amongst all of the other posts. We will be over 10,000 by the end of the week.

I texted Starcade a simple question (after several texts were ignored). I am looking to see how many are in front of me. Is it really too difficult of a question to ask? Please try to help me out when you can. I understand you are relying on Planetary pinball getting orders for you, or they may let you know directly from CGC. In any event. Throw me a bone. Please?

Okay we are all in the same boat. So, it could be three more days or three more months? Is it that the distributors/resellers are more interested in additional game sales, and have lost their focus? I would really hope that CGC realizes how bad that would be for their label. How hard is a little communication? Dealers definitely have or should have a list as to which customer will be satisfied with their game next. How hard would a simple spreadsheet creation be? At least it would give a point of reference. I get all of the delays, production issues, etc. I am willing to wait for the best product I can receive. I am NOT asking for too much. Is there a Planetary Pinball resource that watches this thread? I understand knowing you have X people in front of you might cause some follow-up, but really?

In my opinion the topper makes the game. Not only setting it apart visually and complimenting the theme as mentioned by others. The shootout is NOT easy as evidenced by the few youtube videos that show it in action. Another thing to consider is the unknowns of code enhancements of what I call the "LFS saloon door toybox". We have very little details. But leveraging the topper if possible, would be sick. I can't wait until mine arrives here in the Arizona desert where the theme thrives.
I am so glad I pulled the trigger on my LE.

Having my career in the IT (Information Technology) I just thought it would be helpful to clarify....

https://www.google.com/search?q=difference+between+nerd+and+geek&sxsrf=AJOqlzXJAvP3p8RHWnc5AySD23EUYt6vgg:1674576767603&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiw-4bLzOD8AhV8LkQIHfM7Ck0Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1873&bih=929&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:db1092b2,vid:kwz-Md6OoyA

I am happy to report, that I heard back from Roger at Starcade. Roger said that after talking to Rick Bartlett, Rick thinks he will need a year to build the 2,600 LE and SE+ machines. Don't shoot the messenger. The undertaker has been way too busy these days. At least now I can focus my energy remembering that at least I will get the LE I wanted and celebrate with those that get their games before me.

2600 / 52 = 50 That is how the math works out, but the reality might be something else. Who knows.

They look even better when together with coin door magnet. LMAO

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Please don't make me repost my fridge. It's quite depressing. LOL

How much advance time did you get? Just curious

I tried to order from Zach first, but by the time I got word his were all gone. I only heard great things about him and his business.

PM sent

Today's high in Queen Creek Arizona is 54 degrees. Can't blame my delay on the weather!

or for a more "Western Vibe"

These are the best I have seen so far.

And then after the LFS code, that could add a deeper level of play too.

Then why were new trim pieces suggested? I have an unopened tube with the suggested pieces. With the other mods I have waiting.

I have a set I ordered that are waiting for my LE. I have a question. Why does it appear that the countersink was not done correctly?
The top of the screw should be flat with the cover if the countersink was done correctly. This picture shows the side of the flat head which indicates that either the screw length is not long enough to allow the flathead to fully seat or the machining was done incorrectly preventing the head to fully seat. Please clarify. The screw heads do not look right. I am hoping I won't have to rework them.

I will post a installation when I receive my LE. The countersunk will look substantially more finished. The flatheads sticking up would drive me nuts. I would rather have the flatheads seated correctly over minor added detail. I agree that the non-pinballhaus have more detail. I am guessing the second supplier chronologically tried to add detail to avoid ethical issues. Mine are from pinballhaus.

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Another one bites the dust.

Im actually starting to think I will see my own LE delivered. This is encouraging. Congrats!

Mine are still unfortunately still in the box against my mirrored back glass. I am still waiting for my LE. The right side does not hide Bart but the HUGE thing that it does is hides the ugly spotlight on the right side as well as the train motor. I bought all of the mezel mods except the beer stein and the moonshine jug.

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It is truly depressing!

Sometimes my LE feels like I am in that same line. UGH!

Didn't your initial invoice state the final price?
I am paying some over MSRP but at least I was told exactly how much over MSRP from the start.
Does not sound ethical to change the price at the last minute.

Well, I have been asking that exact question of Roger at Starcade and here is what I received...
The Blue colored are my frequent requests for any update. Jan 30th I asked where I was in his queue.
So does that mean Roger lied to you? I sure hope not and that we both get our games in March. March of this year.

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Totally agree. I have been one shot away from destroying the ring 6 times. Makes me miss my Gilligan's Island. It was so rewarding, simple but rewarding

I was referring to beating the game. Gilligan's island does have "Nice Coconuts" LOL

Just when you start getting bummed about nobody getting their games (including me) a few get the word! Are there cameras watching?

I had already planned on using leg protectors but after seeing how the metal plates are on the Cactus Canyon, I actually think that by using protectors they can actually CAUSE the damage that they are attempting to prevent. With the stock legs mounted a business card was able to be slid between the leg and the cabinet. That gap in itself protects the cabinet. Isn't that true? I know the early games had an issue, but that was quickly remediated. I am NOT planning on using protection now. Hmm that sounded weird. LOL

My CC LE machine is only a fantasy of mine. I was told March by my distributor, but even THAT had no guarantee. I already have a box of upgrades that are available to all and one special deal that I am the only one to think of implementing. When I get my game, I will post pics.

When I threw my money at Menzel Mods they did not have a track mod. My LE has the track, so I was not looking at that if it was even available. These are a few of the mods I have waiting in a box next to the mirrored back glass.

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Mine have been on my fridge for several weeks.

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There WON'T be a next one for me. My first and last NIB order from CGC.

I have some unopened I will sell you, LMAO

$600 from Chicago to Evansville, IN 350 miles
$550 from Chicago to San Ramon CA, 1,833 miles
They have a word for that robbery! You would think shipping is determined more by distance.

AND the distributor to give others with same distributor hope.

I thought I just saw a teaser for Pulp Fiction. What is that? more than an upgrade kit its a new game. Unless I misread it.
https://www.knapparcade.org/post/raw-thrills-chicago-gaming-company-tease-new-pulp-fiction-pinball-machine
Seems like biting of more than you can chew IMHO. And we continue to swallow it.

Seems like biting of more than you can chew IMHO. And we continue to swallow it.

Well I do not have snow in Sunny Arizona. I just don't have my game yet.
Curious what the resiliency is on the colored pistols. Is that ink or engraved?
Looks real nice. My son is a jeweler and I have a few ideas. We'll see.

This is how I am starting to feel about this forum...
What is that movie line....

It feels like Space and CGC are the same entity

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Hmm, WHEN I get my LE I'll stop being obsessed with all the thread drama because I will be shootin' for High Noon! No longer needing to hear of other distributors being awesome and see their games all sparkly clean and powered up. I don't care what freaking number I get, ok!? I'd gratefully take 666 of 1250, because this experience at times is hellish. LMAO

The link to the Manual online does not work. Has CGC been engaged to fix the broken link? C'mon CGC at least give us people in line something to occupy our time. Fix the freaking link! This is nauseating!

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"For others looking for the doc the contents can be found in the FAQ - see post #2, Physical Adjustments/Inductive Sensors"

I am looking for everything NOT listed in the FAQ. Game rules, Shot details, Strategy. Ya know, the fun-colored pictures stuff for us kids that keep asking "Is it posted yet". I see absolutely no reason why the current manual is not posted. The reason "because its being updated" should never be an excuse. It's the little things that bring forgiveness of many large things. C'mon CGC post the freakin' manual. Not having it AND keeping it updated is a slap in the face to the customers you still have. It's also a turn off for customers you Don't yet have.

The mine cart looks nice.
My suggestion is this,
When the mine cart is filled it's is not with refined gold in bar form.
It looks cool, just a thought

My thought is more on the lines of this...
Is the LE really worth more than the SE+ since the only thing that can't be upgraded is the much cooler apron.
I have an LE on order. Just looking for thoughts.

Pulp Fiction
9499 + Freight + Tax If applicable For Limited Edition - $2000 Non Refundable Deposit
7999 + Freight + Tax If applicable For Special Edition $1000 Non Refundable Deposit
Production Expected to Start In October of 2023

The thing that annoys me the most is that they will go into great lengths to get people to bite. Look at this: https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/pulp-fiction They have time for this, but we can't even get updated shot graphics for Cactus Canyon. Well I'm grateful for the manual!

Sucked that down as soon as I saw it.

Yea, punish all or none. It just shows a subtle shade of who they are as a company. People are noticing.

10-24 is a coarse thread since there are 24 threads per inch.
10-32 is a fine thread since there are 32 threads per inch.
You always want to finger tighten when figuring out which thread count because a 10-24 bolt can destroy a 10-32 threaded hole if forced.

Am I the only one to be grateful I am waiting for a CGC game instead of a JJ game? Does the JJ game come with a fork? wiring nightmare. Or was this some spoof to hide what game it was? I seriously don't know.

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Has anyone else been waiting for Starcade? How many on here received their games from Starcade? Just curious

Does anyone have #626? It might not even be an option, but that would be very cool to have my anniversary June 26th Does anyone know if there is any way to get that number? Is there a process? My game is coming from Starcade by way of PPS. Any insight would be appreciated.

I like the barrel cup holder. Do you have a link or source where you wrangled it?

I went with a smaller scale bone colored. For the same price I got a bag of 5. I like the more subtle size. If anyone only wants one, I will send you one for $5. I only need 2. PM me.

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All Skulls have been spoken for. I will send them out this Saturday at the latest.

And shouldn’t she look a little more appealing? Is she wearing combat boots? Maybe the girl in Green is not Polly, but that would conflict on the Backglass in my opinion. I updated my post with screen shot of Polly tied down, and once resued. This is what the girl needs to look like to match the game. Agree?

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They need to use the models I sent in the screen shots! The one they are using looks like a Carol Burnett skit.

Any new teasers about LFS Saloon package?

Not nice to disrespect my honor to the greatness.
Has CGC actually come up with an official name?
I guess that would be a step. If not I like my name “LFS Saloon Package”

I was under the impression that the Beer stein hit was hard coded at 10 and not changeable. I was bummed when he said that in the demo thinking it would be cool lower until you are up to speed with the game flow.

But I could not find any printed instructions for Topper game play. The video said it is set at 10 and not changeable. That is incorrect. Maybe (hopefully) in revised manual.

I wanted to give you all a heads up that I am creating my own Polly water mod. Details to follow soon. I took feedback that was provided. Stay tuned

Well don't laugh at the lack of detail, but this is all I have for the Polly concept. Prototypes hopefully in 2 weeks. Colors are trying to match the back glass as well as the Polly tied to tracks picture. Feedback welcome.

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OK, I only want to ask one time. Here is my dilemma. Polly is in a blue dress pictures on the ramp (terrible cartoon), but in the video when saved on the DMD she is in a green dress. I personally think matching the back glass makes the most sense. Partially because you will see the correlation between the two. Also, in my opinion the green dress gives better contrast to the blue water.
So what do you think looks better? BLUE, or GREEN?
Personally for my game, I am matching Polly on back glass over the cartoon in combat boots. Green all the way. I want to see what you all prefer. Thanks

I am leaning on Green, as stated matches back glass, but I also understand Polly Prolly has more than one. More than anything I just want to cover the Olive Oil cartoon. What were they thinking? Thanks. I will paint a Green and a Blue and see which looks best. Leaning on Green

Regarding the benefits of the knocker. I see the coolness of match, but the timing of the knocker knocking doesn't it interfere with the DMD drunk dude bullets video for extra ball? I usually turn off the match feature after a while because after all, the games are ALL free. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I had the pieces in my cart and then thought more about it. So, what are the real benefits then?

There are two suppliers for the pistol speaker covers. One was done at a much higher attention to detail with chamfered mounting holes. When I get my LE I will take pictures. There is no way (IMHO) using a panhead on a chamfered mounting hole will look cleaner than using the designed flat head screw. After looking at the picture it appears the picture is from the source that did not chamfer the holes. This is a 5-minute task at any machine shop. Here is a picture of mine that clearly show the chamfers. Just have them chamfer the holes. I just noticed another difference between the two suppliers. The one mentioned without chamfers also has a narrower band that does not cover the speaker. The chamfer version completely covers the speaker band which also looks cleaner. Since the mounting outer band is so much narrower, there might not be enough material to chamfer. Worth a trip to a local machine shop. The dude down under gets my vote!
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I quoted the wrong post , thanks. I fixed it

That connector is a bit on the loose side I'd say. LMAO