Tossed the Brian Allen side art blades on today. They looks awesome!
Still bitter about my ruined cabinet decals though. BITTER

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Topper is definitely cool. Got to play topper mode at Pintastic. Nice break from the action. Would have loved to get an LE but just sold out too quickly and I wasn’t paying 1250 just for a topper. My other CGCs don’t have toppers either so I’ve already forgotten about it. Playing the snot out of our game. Thoroughly happy with it as is. Added the alternative art because I was never a fan of the original translite.

Hmmm, was under the PF diagnosing an intermittent issue when I decided to look at the slingshot switches behind the mine.
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I reached around to the top side & felt around & thoughtn hmm that feels weird. Think I found one reason why the slingshot doesn't do much on my game. 20220718_204608 (resized).jpg

Missing something…

Leaf blade is on the wrong side of the rubber ring in the picture on top side of playfield.

LTG : )

Any proposed resolution from CGC?

Ding ding! Give that man a prize

Or they simply realized people were willingly spending 8-9k+ for NIB pins.

I've never been bitter but definitely disappointed. Im probably going to take a hit or maybe have a tough time selling her because of the damage but definitely not bitter. I don't even see the issues unless I get down and look closely at them. Lately I'm to the point of, if it can go wrong it will go wrong for me..lol. I'm kinda numb to it now.
Anways, happy Flippin fellas!

My flippers are set wherever they were from CGC. Normally, they have plenty enough zip to them. But after extended playing, they're done for. It needs fans.

Curious if you have better longevity if you lower the flipper power?
I do this on all CGC games anyways as they feel more like OG BW, usually -4 - and I've never ran into fade, even with a recent 10 hour play day at my house last week.

-4 seems way too low, right? I think mine are at +2 or +3. At default I felt the ramp shots had to be perfect to get up the ramp. Can't imagine it at -4.

I do notice coil fade at my current settings after about an hour of play.

Never has been a problem for me hitting any shots, I keep my pitch at 6.5.
You may also want to check your switch gapping fully extended, and bushing gap to ensure they aren't part of the problem.

I will, but I already have a shaker motor
Game changer and it really thumps!

Longtime Stern fanboy and topper skeptic here. I just cancelled my Godzilla Premium order, and put down $1000 toward a CCSE+. Why did I break character for this game? Well, I just read the last 30 days of posts here (LegsLegsLegs), and I saw no complaints about playfield quality, or protectors getting hammered. Instead I see some minor/fixable switch issues and an ocean of leg posts. I speed-read those after the first 50.

I read the FAQ (all of it!) and I see that CGC is direct-silkscreening their playfields!! It just got better and better the more I read. And as much as I love Stern, their new playfield process is a big turn-off. I don’t know what they changed, but it’s no bueno. I’ve played Godzilla and CC side-by-side, and CC just kept pulling me back in. And 2 close friends just bought Godzilla, while nobody in our circle of friends has CC yet.

Okay, so why the topper? Well, just look at it. It’s beautifully sculpted, interactive, probably a bit overpriced but I couldn’t persuade myself to just get the SE.

I’ll order the Mantis leg protectors now, and hope for an early Christmas from CGC and ClassicGameRooms.

Thanks for the massive insight, @jfh!

Did the little birdie mention when the new arms were ordered after overextended initial run was produced? Month ago... week ago... today

How hard was that? Why not just divulge that at the outset?

This was supposed to be my game off due to quality precautions. For the record I got hit with the full house. Missing power cord crimped legs, damaged decals and a chipped playfied. All in 37 plays as my game sits awaiting new legs that don't seem to be coming i know perception is reality but I assure you the Titanic can sink.

When is your birthday?

A long history of that. Lenc Smith became Churchill Cabinet Company ( Doug's Father, made cabinets and playfield for Williams ) became Chicago Gaming company.

Been doing a good job for a long time.

LTG : )

I would hate to be manufacturing anything these days. And not just pinball. Suppliers disappearing. Finding new sources. New or old sources causing delays or making mistakes.

What a nightmare.

Doug Duba cares. That says a lot about a company.

LTG : )

It does seem like you got a run of bad luck. I haven’t seen any other posts here about chipped clear (we get those all the time in the Stern threads, which I think is why they went to a much thinner clearcoat).

What is your new guess for the LE pins??

I agree and as dumb as it sounds I'm not scared off yet! I actually put my name down for a MMr and AFMr should they ever run again..lol! Oh this hobby hah! I think my picture is in this thread tho it's small and somewhat hidden it's not just clear it went down to the wood taking off art took my breath away when i noticed it...

Jason at Classic Game Rooms is fantastic. Got my Rush Prem from him, recommend. But I know what you’re talking bout with the Sterns right now, my Rush has that almost planking looking effect to it under the clearcoat. Can’t see it while you’re playing, but when you look from the right angle…. And the wait for the expression lights is getting ridiculous. They’re running LZ Prem right now with expression lights on em while my Rush Prem has none and I still can’t even purchase them.

I am guessing there is a problem with the wood apron....

Pretty sure its just thin wood over a standard metal arch so I cant see that being much of an issue.

I am happy to say my leg drama is now a thing of the past!

Did you find a good fix, or just feelin better about it now?

Sold it!

My birthday is in October, not looking good.

11/2 will be 1 year anniversary of my deposit.

You going to replace. Or

He said sooner than later, septembER is sooner, so hoping. Sold my se today, waiting for LE now.

Nah. Already beat the game and knowing CGC’s ability to keep time-frames the new code will be a long time away. Think this game has run through my system completely. Fastest game ever in and out! Too shallow. Leg debacle ruined any remaining scraps of interest I had for the game.
It’s a cute game, but meh.

unfortunately everything is a guess as it has been since the beginning. I am hoping to see mine by the end of the year at this point. Will be worth the wait.

I don't buy that for a moment. If they left out a part and shipped it to you separately it would not reclassify how it was sold, etc. It's warranty.

I think the issue is they are scared about classifying the game as complete so they can actually invoice for the game, then trying to account separately for the topper later.. thus triggering issues. I don't believe at all that the interested parties could not come to an agreement to not pursue a challenge on something that is obviously honest compensation for a manufacturing issue. IOUs are not uncommon these days in other products with the supply chain issues many industries were facing.

And 'logistical issues' - it's simply a matter of getting a list and shipping the same thing to everyone. It's not hard to say "if you can't give me an address, you don't get a game until later" and stick to the guns of simply dealing with the original buyers.

It all still sounds to me like "we don't wanna"

Sterns next round of cost cutting:

If no clearcoat is put on it can’t chip. Done and done. Every next title ships with a sample sized carnauba wax.

Yeah he’s a good dude, and has an actual warehouse unlike a lot of other distros. I bought my Stranger Things from him, great experience all around.

Again.. a 'lower price' only becomes a factor when you buy into the first explanation. I don't find it convincing. These are not adversarial partners involved here. I get they can't make it an 'option' and the consequences about that.. but changing how you ship it doesn't make something an option or accessory. Especially since they already ship toppers as separate pieces to start with - just in the same shipment. I just don't find the excuse convincing.

Most problems sound hard when you focus on the 'why nots' instead of 'how can we'. Between CGC and their distributors they have no problem finding the person to pay for the game.. so I don't buy that it's that much harder to assemble the list of buyers to ship to. If data export is that big of a problem for some distros, exclude them from the program and make them wait for a combined shipment. Those that can meet the requirements.. congrats we will help you and us by getting those games out quicker.

Reality is it would be a huge expense because shipping their topper boxes are expensive, plus weeks of work. This is not easy work when you don't have a lot of staff doing this kind of stuff anyways. It presents a lot of challenges - but isn't undoable. It's just a heck of a lot easier for them to just sit and wait and make the customer 'wait until its perfect' -- just like CGC has always done.

The real push would come if they had other cascading impacts in the factory in terms of delays causing other scheduling or space issues. But that hasn't been much of an issue with them previously... and there doesn't look like anything challenging that now either.

I get it.. you got an explanation from someone on the inside... that doesn't necessarily mean you got the clean story. Spin comes from the inside too....