Why is being realistic about CGC negative? I've said nothing but positive things about their build quality (which is why I've purchased all their LE's). Would you be happier if I said "Le's are gonna ship really soon, and CGC has doubled their capacity and everyone will get their games by summer"? The reality is CGC will be lucky to get all the LE's out this year, which is pretty close to what I predicted early on. CGC refuses to communicate to customers so all we have is past history, and from what I've seen with CCR its par for the course.

Hoping to pick mine up this weekend.

When one frequently makes comments that are negative in nature folks will likely come to the conclusion of the person being negative. Folks have heard your point and you continue to repeat it. Maybe you just want to be proven right? I dunno. That is my take though.

Realistic ≠ negative. Sometimes the truth hurts. A realist can be both an optimist and a pessimist. Does sugarcoating things feel better? Sure. But in the end facts are facts.

You could make up warm fuzzies now and be disappointed later or have real expectations set early that may surprisingly be exceeded down the road. Most companies prefer to under promise and over deliver to create the best possible customer experience.

Facts ≠ Opinions/guesses/conjecture; I don't have strong feelings any way. The reality is that this thread has a bunch of folks really excited to get their games. Then someone constantly states that it will be delayed, a long time away, not anytime soon, etc. Being a broken record isn't exactly contributing to the conversation. People are excited, why constantly try to change that?

I’m excited but have NFC when mine will ship (SE+) My excitement will last as long as my expectations are reasonable. I hear what you’re saying though. I like the idea of people who have got theirs already offering to host a local pinsider in waiting for some flipper time and to check it out. Anyone around Lansing, MI?

Yeah, my drops don't always go down on a fast, hard shot. But they always drop fine on softer hits, or on angled shots. This seems to be a common problem with drop targets across eras and companies. Drops that are close to the flipper, and/or that are hit dead square-on, can bounce back and re-latch before being pulled down past the shelf. I've had this happen with the Scoleri Bros. targets on Ghostbusters, and with the upper-pf drops on the original 1980 Black Knight.

Only way I know to help, is to put on a stronger spring, but then you run into problems with the target latching properly. At least with CCr anyway. So sorta damned if you do, damned if you don't

I usually don't mind this problem too much, because it makes the games harder, and forces you to try and angle your shot to the side of the target, instead of dead center.

Just got email from a distributor saying one SE in stock if anybody interested

Another shot against those who wait

The purpose of a deposit is to garentee yourself a game. There is no garentee in expecting extra inventory being available. I'll take a garentee over luck and give a congratulation to someone who got lucky! Is what it is.

Thanks. Might take you up on that one day. We are down in La Quinta and drive through Yucca Valley on our way up to Big Bear on weekends.

Good things come to those who wait...

The tpf vids made it over to YouTube.

So back to the powder coating conversation.
So I think that the Wood Grain Hydro dip would look amazing!
I added a color grain that I think would look good.
I'm leaning towards matching the stain of the gun handles on the apron.
Now the question is do you just do the legs, rails, trim and shooter plate or go all in and do the coin Door and speaker panel? I think personally the coin door and speaker would be overkill but what do y'all think.

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Here is a link to a video that shows the hydro dip process for anyone of interest.

I agree. I would leave the coin door and speaker panel black. I would also do the hinge for the head

Oh definitely on the hinges and thanks for the input!

Okay last color idea I'm going to share for opinions as I know there is a (mod group) for these post..lol..

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This is the email Game Room Guys Sent out. Maybe they are making more than 500 SE machines? Especially since I don't think they have really exported any machines to Europe or Australia yet.

"Chicago Gaming is currently building Cactus Canyon SE models and has approximately two months of production left. Once they have completed the build, they will be moving on to the Cactus Canyon LE, followed by the Cactus Canyon SE with Topper. At this point in time, we do not expect to see the Cactus Canyon LE version any earlier than August and the Cactus Canyon SE will most likely start rolling off the line in the fall. We will follow up with Chicago Gaming again in mid-July and update you as soon as we have more information."

I think doing the whole lot would be ok, it’s risky as it could turn out to look like a big turd, but I’m not really into the wood grain thing either. To me; it’s sort of like having a wood grained sheriffs badge, just doesn’t work ?????

I’ve seen 3 different dealers that have CCr in stock they are selling for msrp. I am getting mine Monday but I was surprised to see some had these to sell

How will this stuff hold up on the lockbar?

I have seen a few myself. Then you see stuff like a one on pinside thats 1800 over MSRP. I hope people search a bit before buying.

Agreed!

We just got out CC and it’s being enjoyed. Is anyone else having an issue in Gun Fight where it holds your ball and randomly selects a drop target and instead of you having to hit it, it’s automatically awarding you the points even though you didn’t hit the drop target?

Same problem with ours, I ended up taking the rubber off but would rather leave it on. Just don't see a way around removing the rubber though. Let me know if you figure out another way.

We ended up just changing the rubber to a smaller post rubber and that’s working well. We also had that same issue

Just push gently on the long wire guide with your fingers, it will bend enough for ball clearance, but isn't noticeable at a glance. It's just small tolerance variations in manufacturing. Then there's no need to change or eliminate rubbers

Whenever your doing anything exotic you are taking a risk. Not only on it turning out like a turd but it also shrinks the resale market on it. Basic plain Jane color powder coating is usually the safest bet.
I'll probably just keep mine stock but it sure is fun looking into ideas.

Congratulations on getting your game. Are you the first in Canada ... ?
First posting other than the US shipped games and extras at the distributor

We tried that a couple of times and each time it worked for a couple games and eventually got stuck again. So we decided to change the rubber and it’s mint now without over bending the guide etc. But all good either way that works. I just wanted to say what worked for us.

Your drop target is not staying up. Go into test mode and confirm if each targety will reset and stay up on its own.

Then adjust any that don’t by looking at the spring or bending slightly as described in the thread

I had to loosen my return spring to fix this issue. Be careful to not loosen the spring too much as it will deform and loose shape if you stretch it too far.

I’m in the club and loving it. This pin is awesome and a blast to play! Jazzed it up with alt translight, art blades, shaker motor and some Titan Super shinies. Only things left are invisiglass, train track mod and maybe the topper sometime down the road.

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Looks great! But I don't believe they plan on selling the topper separately.

Lol, good luck on the topper.

Start brushing up on your 3d printing skills....

While I love the look of the train track mod, and am keeping it on, game play visibility was much better without it imo.

Hey if it makes the game harder haha. Jk

Someone stop me from putting my Iron Maiden up for trade bait for one of these.

I bet we see some enterprising SE+ folks decreasing the price of their game by offering the topper for more than $1250.

At least $3k !
Isn't there a company selling toppers for ~$5k or something ridiculous.... they don't even include a mini game...

Because they can have the game now instead of waiting until next year. Jumping on the end of the SE+ list would probably mean Summer 2023 before you receive one.

Same! I gently adjust the wire frame and after a few games right back to the problem. What smaller post rubber did you switch too?

Seems we now have more than a few folks reporting this issue

On a more positive note our street had a block party so naturally I brought the pinballs out for the kids. Cactus Canyon was by far the bigger hit of the two I took out. Adults and kids alike!

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My buddy has an SE. DMD hasn’t worked from day one. Checked all connections, even had his tech come check it out and he can’t figure it out. Anyone else had issues?