Cactus Canyon Remake Club - New Sheriffs in Town! (with FAQs)

Quoted from PtownPin:
my guess is you guys want to convert as many owners as possible so it needs to be reasonable considering the market is in a free fall.

I actually have on my to-do list:

- Confirm business plan with PtownPin before making public announcement

If you see a DM from me asking to join the zoom call regarding pricing just make sure you're available.

#15504 3 months ago

PBJ

Speck

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
I actually have on my to-do list:
- Confirm business plan with PtownPin before making public announcement
If you see a DM from me asking to join the zoom call regarding pricing just make sure you're available.

That’s some solid snark. But really, between us, when is the planned release date.

#15505 3 months ago

EVH

evh347

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
Things actually continue to be worked on. Slow and steady wins the race . . .
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And if there is anything CGC has proven in that race…is that they are slow. And no communication.

#15506 3 months ago

JMR

Only_Pinball

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The wait has been long but I think it will be worth it. ifpapinball seems dedicated to making this upgrade the best it can be.

#15507 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from Speck:
That’s some solid snark. But really, between us, when is the planned release date.

Just between us two, nobody else reading this ... I felt it was going to land this summer. If that ends up slipping I'd say this fall.

#15508 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from evh347:
And if there is anything CGC has proven in that race…is that they are slow. And no communication

I believe that follows the company motto:

"slow, no communication, quality products".

#15509 3 months ago

MTM

Kwaheltrut

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This game is already one of the best deals for a new game. Hoping this new code really makes it compete with the other 3 CGC remakes.

#15510 3 months ago

MDK

thekaiser82

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Good news is that I will probably have the code by the time my LE ships. I specifically requested 1250 a long time ago, so patience is key.

#15511 3 months ago

JDB

Ballderdash

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Quoted from Only_Pinball:
The wait has been long but I think it will be worth it.

So is my Johnson lol

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#15512 3 months ago

JDB

Ballderdash

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#15513 3 months ago

DEW

Damonator

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Quoted from PtownPin:
market is in a free fall

Dang it - I hate it when I miss the free fall prices. When did this happen? Yesterday? Overnight? Not one of you texted me about the free fall prices!

Everything in the market today looks like normal prices - crap!

#15514 3 months ago

JDG

SimplePin

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Quoted from Damonator:
Dang it - I hate it when I miss the free fall prices. When did this happen? Yesterday? Overnight? Not one of you texted me about the free fall prices!
Everything in the market today looks like normal prices - crap!

OG Monster Bash went from $9800 to $8900 over the last week. Listing still active.

#15515 3 months ago

DUG

GreenMachine19

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Groton, CT

10y 64,300 1,598 5

Don’t worry there is still a $8700 STTNG available in the market.

#15516 3 months ago

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Hershmeister

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Nashville, TN

1y 26,650 214 5

I’m still having plenty of fun with my CC LE. Happy to wait for a quality finished upgrade

#15517 3 months ago

DEW

Damonator

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Quoted from SimplePin:
OG Monster Bash went from $9800 to $8900 over the last week. Listing still active.

Free fall!

...oh wait, I just sold a HUO OG MB for $8500 6 months ago. Dang it!

#15518 3 months ago

LMS

Tranquilize

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9y 85,800 3,975 35

Quoted from Speck:
I don’t play CC much anymore since I’ve finished it a few times. I’m holding onto the game just so I can experience the new code - hoping for early summer!!!!!!

Perhaps jfh could pin these in a key post?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---- C A C T U S ~ C A N Y O N ~ S E T T I N G S -----
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Original settings are in parentheses ()

PHYSICAL GAME ADJUSTMENTS
-- Set PF to 8.5 degrees. Very steep. This is VERY important.
-- Set all sling leaf switches to 1mm

STANDARD RULE ADJUSTMENTS
-- Max EX B Count: 1
-- Game restart - Never - just say no to ball one restarts!

FEATURE RULE ADJUSTEMENTS
-- Ball save time - 7 (4) - Skill shot sucks up a bunch of time.
-- Q-Draw Difficulty: Extra Hard
-- Light Quick Draw Difficulty: Hard
-- Q-Draws for EXB: Off
-- Combos for star: 12 (10)
-- Num bart bros: 4 (3) - This makes a huge difference
-- Polly EXB: No
-- Gun Fight Time: 3 (6) - You get ONE shot, two if you get an instant rebound. Waaaaaaay better.

REMAKE RULE ADJUSTEMENTS
-- Bart Bros EX B: Off

LIGHTING
-- PF LED Brightness: -1
-- Backbox Brightness: -2
-- Gun Flasher Brightness: -3

ENJOY

Key post

#15519 3 months ago

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Indypin

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Charlestown, IN

13y 87,300 1,977 25

Quoted from ifpapinball:I believe that follows the company motto:
"slow, no communication, quality products".

That could be read backwards as well.

#15520 3 months ago

JDM

polishedball

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5y 47,550 421 8 17

<blockquote cite="#8184528"
I've heard rumors that nobody will buy this thing if it's over $250 . . .

I'd be in well over that. I mean with what I paid for the CGC color dmd upgrade chip years back it is kinda expected.

#15521 3 months ago

JDD

jackd104

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Quoted from polishedball:
<blockquote cite="#8184528"
I've heard rumors that nobody will buy this thing if it's over $250 . . .
I'd be in well over that. I mean with what I paid for the CGC color dmd upgrade chip years back it is kinda expected.

$250 is laughable. It will be quite a bit more.

#15522 3 months ago

DTE

ClarkGriswold

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Los Angeles, CA

3y 48,300 281 7 6

Quoted from polishedball:
<blockquote cite="#8184528"
I've heard rumors that nobody will buy this thing if it's over $250 . . .
I'd be in well over that. I mean with what I paid for the CGC color dmd upgrade chip years back it is kinda expected.

Just my opinion here:

Some people pay $500 - $1000 dollars in "visual" modifications on this title (Side armor is $300, speaker inserts $40, mine cart, tracks, saloon doors $100, mirrored back glass $300+ and so forth). While these do make the games more attractive to look at, these mods do nothing to change the actual game play/rules nor do they add any additional objectives/modes.

This is new code (and likely hardware) that expands upon the gameplay itself that Lyman had direct input for it's design. This will add new depth and challanges to an already awesome game. If I have $1000 to spend on upgrades to my machine, I would much rather spend the entire amount on the new code (and hopefully new hardware too) rather than $1000 on mods that only make the machine look better. This is coming from someone who has already purchased a mirrored backglass and some other mods.

#15523 3 months ago

TOM

pinballinreno

Computer Extreme

10y 137K 16,093 31

Quoted from ClarkGriswold:
Just my opinion here:
Some people pay $500 - $1000 dollars in "visual" modifications on this title (Side armor is $300, speaker inserts $40, mine cart, tracks, saloon doors $100, mirrored back glass $300+ and so forth). While these do make the games more attractive to look at, these mods do nothing to change the actual game play/rules nor do they add any additional objectives/modes.
This is new code (and likely hardware) that expands upon the gameplay itself that Lyman had direct input for it's design. This will add new depth and challanges to an already awesome game. If I have $1000 to spend on upgrades to my machine, I would much rather spend the entire amount on the new code (and hopefully new hardware too) rather than $1000 on mods that only make the machine look better. This is coming from someone who has already purchased a mirrored backglass and some other mods.

It wont be cheap.

I mean a Big Mac is $8 these days in some markets...

#15524 3 months ago

JON

DownSouthPinball

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
I actually have on my to-do list:
- Confirm business plan with PtownPin before making public announcement
If you see a DM from me asking to join the zoom call regarding pricing just make sure you're available.

Just let me know ifpapinball and I’ll join the link. $250 seems too low if it’s software and hardware. Despite the empty threats on this thread saying otherwise.

#15525 3 months ago

JFH

jfh

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
Our intent is to meet Lyman and my own expectations for this thing when we started. If we're able to do that (and I think we will), wherever this thing lands in whatever market it shows up in will be fine with me.

And any true Cactus Canyon fan should want exactly that.

What you have done to shepherd the original vision you and Lyman had through an unfathomable shock and unexpected resource demands is remarkable. Your Dad effectively saved pinball a generation ago. You’re honoring one of the nicest and most talented pinball people of this generation I’ve met in 30 years in the best and probably most difficult way possible. An incredibly Sharpe follow up. Lesser men would have given up long ago.

#15526 3 months ago

DUG

GreenMachine19

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Groton, CT

10y 64,300 1,598 5

I won’t be selling with or without new code. It’s my wife’s favorite game. I hardly play it when we play together because she is always on it. I play Halloween the most.

#15527 3 months ago

YAW

Lethal_Inc

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Will see what is added and how much deeper the code is before I put a price on it. Too much and CGC can suck it. IMO, I bought their game at a pretty hefty price already so there should be some discount for that.

#15528 3 months ago

JFH

jfh

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Quoted from Lethal_Inc:
I bought their game at a pretty hefty price already so there should be some discount for that.

lol.

Priced a Stern game with their ho-hum toppers in the last couple years? CGC is hard to beat when looking at relative value/$.

#15529 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from Lethal_Inc:
IMO, I bought their game at a pretty hefty price already so there should be some discount for that.

This product will literally only be available to people that previously bought the game, so discounted price for all buyers?

(Technically I guess someone could buy the kit without the game and just have a box that sits there and does nothing, but I wouldn't recommend that as a purchasing strategy)

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#15530 3 months ago

YAW

Lethal_Inc

Pinside member

Quoted from ifpapinball:
This product will literally only be available to people that previously bought the game, so discounted price for all buyers?
(Technically I guess someone could buy the kit without the game and just have a box that sits there and does nothing, but I wouldn't recommend that as a purchasing strategy)

Sure, not so much discount per se, just not a bend me over and how do ya like that price.

#15531 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from Lethal_Inc:
Sure, not so much discount per se, just not a bend me over and how do ya like that price.

I don't believe CGC has ever executed a "bend me over and how do ya like that price" pricing model (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that one).

Seems over the years they've always been extremely fair, focusing on providing a ton of value to people that buy their product, while still making sure they can generate enough profit to keep their business moving forward.

#15532 3 months ago

YAW

Lethal_Inc

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Yep I hear ya. Let’s keep it that way.

#15533 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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I'll be sure to invite you to the pricing Zoom call as well to make sure CGC doesn't make the wrong decision on this one . . .

#15534 3 months ago

YAW

Lethal_Inc

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Please do. I would like to say a word or two.

#15535 3 months ago

JDD

jackd104

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Why people choose to antagonize the only person in the World engaging with community and providing information is one of life’s great mysteries.

#15536 3 months ago

JDB

Ballderdash

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
Things actually continue to be worked on. Slow and steady wins the race . . .
[quoted image]

This looks awesome and I know there’s lots more where that came from. Keep chugging along!

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#15537 3 months ago

ROB

transprtr4u

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Quoted from jackd104:
Why people choose to antagonize the only person in the World engaging with community and providing information is one of life’s great mysteries.

Engaging, or providing little info and putting long term customers down with snarky comments.?
Perhaps no communication is the better way to go!
Or learn how to communicate like BOF does.

Eventually this will be done . This has been made clear...

#15538 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from jackd104:
Why people choose to antagonize the only person in the World engaging with community and providing information is one of life’s great mysteries.

I enjoy receiving it as much as I do giving it.

I've learned so much about how to run a business from the armchair quarterbacking on Pinside, it should qualify as an accredited university at this point

#15539 3 months ago

JFH

jfh

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
I enjoy receiving it as much as I do giving it.
I've learned so much about how to run a business from the armchair quarterbacking on Pinside, it should qualify as an accredited university at this point

how to run a business into the ground.

This is Pinside so I fixed it for ya.

#15540 3 months ago

ottodawg

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Quoted from jackd104:
Why people choose to antagonize the only person in the World engaging with community and providing information is one of life’s great mysteries.

At this rate, he won't be for long... Not that I could blame him.

#15541 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

Pinside member

Quoted from ottodawg:
At this rate, he won't be for long... Not that I could blame him.

The comments I get from my three kids on the daily make pinside comments a walk in the park ...

#15542 3 months ago

NVU

nvu4prod

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
The comments I get from my three kids on the daily make pinside comments a walk in the park ...

They must be close or are teenagers at the moment. My wife and I used to call our kids wicked back in the day. Thank goodness they change their tune
after High School!

#15543 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from nvu4prod:
They must be close or are teenagers at the moment. My wife and I used to call our kids wicked back in the day. Thank goodness they change their tune

They are 12, 10 and 5.

My 5 year old:"dad?"
Me: "what?"
My 5 year old: "I don't love you."

SAVAGE!

I can handle all the transprtr4u and PtownPin the world wants to throw my way

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#15544 3 months ago

ROB

transprtr4u

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
I can handle all the transprtr4u and PtownPin the world wants to throw my way

Good to hear, will probably have a comment when you show the next screen shot in September

Smart 5 year old you have... I like him !

#15545 3 months ago

KEV

Mageek

Mageek Mods

Ottawa, ON

8y 92,150 1,034 15 6

Quoted from transprtr4u:
Good to hear, will probably have a comment when you show the next screen shot in September
Smart 5 year old you have... I like him !

Still hanging on to the owners thread just so you can keep bitching and moaning even though you sold a year ago. Classy

#15546 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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Quoted from transprtr4u:
Good to hear, will probably have a comment when you show the next screen shot in September

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#15547 3 months ago

TPK

Kneissl

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Quoted from ifpapinball:
SAVAGE!

The real question, will the new rules be savage enough to break into your top 3?

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#15548 3 months ago

DUG

GreenMachine19

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Groton, CT

10y 64,300 1,598 5

Quoted from Mageek:
Still hanging on to the owners thread just so you can keep bitching and moaning even though you sold a year ago. Classy

For real? I didn’t realize this. Why troll this thread if you don’t even have the game? Pinside is negative enough without bonus negative.

#15549 3 months ago

JDM

polishedball

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I searched the tread a bit and did not find the info, can anyone tell me who is now working on polishing Josh/Lyman's code and vision. Who is there on staff person for coding? Thanks

#15550 3 months ago

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ifpapinball

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