The flip-n-out video matches the production units in game play and look. Nothing really new or changed. I tried to take a video with my phone the other day, but lighting and such did not make it look all that great.

I think the mini game On the topper seems cool and is in line with other video modes off the same era.
ie: AFM, MM, CP

Actually tried the same on my new LE. Better in person than what came out on video. That said, it's a quick 15-20 second game (depending on how good you are).....getting a little better with each try. I believe 12 was my highest!

On a side note, I'm somewhat tall and the train tracks obstruct a clear view to the beer mug (and bad guy #1) - I sometimes forget about it.

What I think would work better for the topper mode is this:

1. The led light bounces left to right on its own. Slow at first, picking up speed as the player hits each bad guy. Hit both flippers to "shoot" when the light is underneath a bad guy, still avoiding civilians. Or....

2. No led lights at all. The bad guys light up on either the left or right side of Bart. Slowly at first, building speed as bad guys are hit. The player hits the left or right flipper to "shoot". But, don't shoot when a civilian appears! Gotta be quick! Similar to the wolves attacking on BSD video mode.

I think either of the above suggestions would make the mode more exciting and build intensity as the mode speeds up. As it stands now with the player moving the leds back and forth, it just seems odd. But hey, that's me.

I've never played the mode, so can you explain how you control? How do you fire? I understand left to right movement,,,

From what I understand, and see in the video above, there is no "fire" action. The player just moves the led light back and forth to the lit bad guy, avoiding friendly civilians. If that's correct, I think either of my 2 suggestions are better as they incorporate an actual "fire" action from the player.

Thx, you need to remove 3/4 of faq, too much too look thru . Just kidding, I should of gone there first

I added the train tracks mod to my SE, and it definitely obstructs the view to bad guy #1. That has stopped me from doing further mods (mine cart / train stations) as I do like having a nice view of the playfield. I do think it's worth the trade off for the train tracks because they really do look nice and complete the look of the train mech.

What it looks like to me as well. Very similar to Champion Pub “Spitting Gallery” video mode. I like your idea of auto left/right cursor movement bouncing back and forth at increasingly difficult speed with a “fire” button to try and time the bad guy shots.

No fire, you just move the LED to be under the window with the bad guy, back and forth with the flipper buttons, just hold the button down.

We have a pinball place in Simpsonville, SC that has 2 NBAFB's linked. That really is fun.

At least we know the games are built tough ... he pushes the beer mug target so hard he almost moves it to the back box ...
Topper looks fun

To me, I would've thought that Bart would've turned around facing the windows, and you would control his rotational left to right movement with the flipper buttons, along with him raising his arms to fire directly at the window targets. Having owned the original, with unfinished code, and no interactive topper, this is really an improvement.

I only have one newer Stern, Godzilla. However, if I go to barcaide, or even a friends house who likes newer games. Because they plug and play. I can only play so many Stern games till I just have to play a 90s classic.

November 30th?

Are LE buyers getting notices from their distributors? Are more going out, or was there only a small batch delivered and now a ‘stop’?

What distro’s have shipped?

Is there a similar shoutout mode on the SE?

No, the FAQ didn’t answer my question at all. It provides only a BS, common sense, dismissive, ‘nothing published’ answer. Your response about ‘production ongoing’ and ‘months before all are delivered’…didn’t add much either.

I was hoping to get some real info from buyers and some idea whether a few shipped, or a bunch have shipped and keep shipping from one or multiple distro’s. Sorry to pollute your club thread with such a foolish question. Live and learn.

Don't feel bad. I got treated the same.

Agreed, maybe jfh has a “read the FAQ” auto-response generator of some sort.

I also would like to know if more buyers are getting invoices/taking deliveries. If not that would be concerning and discussion-worthy.

No, you would need a topper. The the topper can be enabled/disabled in the settings

Sorta. You can enable the mode on the SE you just can’t play it.

It seems like it would be easy enough to to program a video mode version for the SE owners.

I have an SE - you can turn on topper mode in the settings. There's no telling where you are aiming. But I have gotten 11 bad guys on the topper mode without a topper.

Here's where I get 11 bad guys while Livestreaming on YouTube - the video will start at the correct time of the topper mode.
-Pinball Mayhem Jeremy

Love it! Not topper, no problem!

If Bart is facing the windows; wouldn’t he then be shooting his own possè ?

I’m turning it on!!

I'll turn it on as well. I'd think it would be super easy to code in some sort of indicator for aiming on the enlarged dmd.

brilliant idea..because a video mode on the SE's would bridge a necessary gap from the LE's..both from a players' perscpective, and a selling/value perspective.

here we go .........

Here we go what?? I mean seriously.

Pretty basic math. They can make about 250 games/month and they have 1250 games to make. It'll take 5 months for everyone to get their game. What's with the damn obsession of knowing the exact day/hour/minute the game is going to arrive??? We ALL want it now but that ain't realistic is it?

Folks show up and ask the same damn question "When will I get my game". They get the only answer that can be 100% true. "You'll get it when you get it and it may take 5 months". WTF more do you want that ISN'T wild speculation???

Call your distro if you want to know. I did and I got an answer. It's probably nowhere near reality but at least they have an expectation.

jfh has been pretty polite IMHO. Yet he gets shit on every turn because he tells ppl to read the FAQ which is pretty clear with production rates and overall time it'll take. Just because you don't like the answer or the FAQ won't change reality.

FFS

Wasn't what I was saying, but Thanks .... I'm aware of the math ....

What were you saying then? My apologies for misreading your comment.

letting it die on the vine, before one poster has to fill out a "hurt feelings report" !

but thanks again they only can build them so fast and nice to see them out and about and getting into customers hands !

You still haven’t shown that you comprehend his question. Your FAQ only offers general statements and theoretical production schedules. Some of us would like to hear information regarding actual new deliveries/invoices. Perhaps the silence means that production is stalled for whatever reason. The only way to be reassured of ongoing production seems to be new owners sharing their information.

OK. Lets change the subject here. So how about those saloon doors that I thought I was getting?

read the FAQs god damn it!

words to live by !

And perhaps you don’t understand the meaning of “perhaps”. I did not “assume a negative” , I just suggested the possibility that no new delivery announcements could be due to stalled production.

One can have faith yet still be invested in the time frame. Not mutually exclusive.

Do you actually have a game on order or are you just here for the trolling?

I hope it will be included with the new code!

Help a guy out. The SE Manual does not mention turning on the topper game or the game at all.

There are three adjustment settings related to the topper. Which should be on for the game without actually having a topper? How do you start the mini game?

Actually do .... cant wait for it to deliver !

thanks

I guess I don't understand the topper goal, who is the game player shooting at, that Bart should not?
It just clicked, maybe Bart should be shooting at the player of the game, didn't seem that he was doing much. I still love the topper addition though.