Is there any update on when these should be made and shipped out?

This concerns me. That’s why “Pics or it didn’t happen” is necessary.

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Fair, and agree! Literally could be a smart phone pic…doesn’t have to be complicated.

4 to 6 weeks ... every 4 to 6 weeks

Bingo! Slight pull and it's dropping like it's hot now. Thank you.

CGC should heavily discount the software upgrade (like they did with the original MMRLE buyers) as a gift for taking well over a year to deliver the game

So discount for year + waiting for game
Discount for an other year waiting for software.

FREE SOFTWARE FOE EVERYONE !

It is a bit odd how CGC get such a free pass on here when you look at the Pinside Pitchfork Orgy that has plagued the Spooky and Haggis threads.

For reference:

- Haggis Mermaid - Deposit paid 27/4/21, received 27/10/22 - 548 Days
- Spooky HWN/UM - Deposit paid 15/7/21, received 20/10/22 - 462 Days
- CGC CCR LE - Deposit Paid 2/12/21.......... If the Australian container left today it would be about 60 days to me, so 329 days so far Plus 60 days - 389 days and counting.

I'm all for equal opportunity orgies.

I dont know about free, but I think a good discount is warranted for the massive delays....every other manufacturer has no problem pumping out games yet for some reason CGC can't seem to get it done

His statement was that it is worth the increased cost for an LE from CGC.

You get a topper, shaker motor, fancy apron, side art, additional sculpts and powder coated trim for $1250. Which is a very reasonable amount of things for the increased price.

With Stern you get side art, powder coating, different art, invisible glass, a designer signature, and a shaker motor for $3300 more. You don't even get a topper at that price. They aren't really worth the increased cost.

I agree with that....clearly there's way more value on the CCRLE ...

So glad I don't give 1 flying turd about toppers and ordered an SE. I do feel really bad for the folks waiting a year now for their LEs. It's hard to believe it's been that long since the release announcement.

January 1st we all ask for our refunds. Show of unity. Lol jk I’ll wait.

I’d respect distributor more if they just sent this:
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What about the guys that really really really wanted an LE, but didn’t have a prayer because they’re not in tight with a distributor who let their bro’s buy 3 LE’s to scalp, and then you had to pay the same price as the LE for an SE with the topper, and then build your stuff last to rub salt in the wound??? Do you feel bad for them guys too?

If they ever deliver them ..

If I remember Sara at PPS came into this thread a couple weeks before the reveal and asked who wanted an LE. She said at that time anybody that got on the list was guaranteed one. That hinged on both being in this thread and buying sight unseen at that point. My guess is this is how they were gauging total interest. If 1000 people ordered through PPS at that time they may have made another 1000 for the other distros. But long story short you are right. Anybody could have had one IF they saw the post for early orders in this thread AND you were willing to order sight unseen. However there are certainly people that would have missed those things and that does stink for them.

And IF PPS even read your email. I heard others say at the time that they had contacted PPS and they also were told by PPS that they never got the email after the games were sold out.

My game is through Cointaker so I can’t speak to the experience with PPS. This was just my recollection of events.

Noon question, but is it possible just to buy the topper alone? We have an SE coming and just wondering if this might be an additional down the line.

Sadly, no. You need to go LE or SE+.

Not quite.

A couple people posted responses from her that she emailed to them.

LTG : )

Ahh. Thanks for clarifying. There is a lot to dig back through in this thread. Thankfully your memory is better than mine!

Same old tired deflection- the game pricing and details were not available… so pointing at people making commitments before the game is even revealed is not equivalent to ‘lots of availability’

You repeating it doesn’t make it true

This what was posted at the end of August. I sent email a day later on 9/1 to put my name on the list. There was never a commitment at this time. Email came 11/1 for the initial deposit, game had been revealed and pricing was out. At that time you had to commit to your slot and put your money down. Nothing was blind.

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PPS didn't take money either -- it was just putting your name on their list which guaranteed you a spot if you wanted one. IIRC - I didn't have to send any deposit money until after it was revealed at expo? (Could be mistaken)

PPS handled it very fairly and really gave everyone a fair shot if they were following the game prior to release.

Never bought a new Stern before. I called a distributor that I never bought from before and asked if he could sell me an LE and I got it for MSRP no tax and free shipping. Good honest distributors are out there. You don’t need to be connected, If a good distributor knows you aren’t looking to flip it and have a passion for pinball or a specific game or theme they will take care of you if they have one available.

I agree with this..maybe LFS would have agreed as well

I also emailed on 8/31 to get on the list. Never bough a NIB game before, didn't know any distributors, don't flip, just stayed hot on the trail, read every post on this and other threads and jumped on the opportunity.

My distributer put CCLE up on their site as first come first serve. Sent out email in advance to give notice. This was after all info was released.

MUCH better than same distributer with sterns, where there appears to be no way for me to ever get on super secret le lists that are never made public nor given any lotto system. Then next day pinside has 10 stern les for 5k markup. Fun. I kinda stopped even trying to get a stern now cause of it.

Cant a 2nd party make and distribute a topper for this game similar to the CGC one?

Aesthetically this is probably possible. The interaction with the game code would be a bigger hurdle. If you made one for yourself that is probably ok but if you distribute them I would expect PPS/CGC would issue a C&D to protect their IP. For me if you had any inkling of wanting a topper the best path forward is the SE+.

So like i said… well before the game was revealed. You’re talking well over a month BEFORE the game was revealed.

This does not make the game generally available for a long time after it was revealed which is cgc #1 fan’s favorite goto.

I mean if it was so readily available there would have been no sales of the SE+ and zero reason to even introduce that. But we know that unmet demand after the game was revealed was the exact reason the Se+ was introduced— UNMET DEMAND

Readily available presale interest lists != readily available inventory ‘for anyone who wanted one’

Then who were the SE+s added for? People who just like paying more?

I tried pretty hard and called around a lot. Couldn't get one. Settled for an SE. Have been playing it since April and am so glad I didn't get an LE. The SE is amazing. Whole family loves the machine.

Any day now we will get our LEs whether that’s next week, next month, or next year (most likely) ‍♂️‍♂️

I feel bad for anyone that got cut out of a game they really wanted due to scalpers, regardless of title, manufacturer, or release date/wait time. All NIB scalpers/flippers have a special place in hell waiting for them in my opinion.

Same. I tried to get an LE spot well before the official announcement, and was unable to after contacting a number of dealers. Went SE and the game is a blast, totally satisfied with it as-is. Can’t know what you’re missing if you don’t have it! Now I can put that extra 1k toward another game.

One guy actually did make his own topper and offered up a few more to anyone who wanted them at cost. CGC and PPS contacted him and said he cant do that because they own the rights and likeness to that game. So that put a end to that.

In fairness.

If memory serves me correct. He was blatantly copying CGCs topper.

Other people have made toppers for CCr that don't infringe on CGC or PPS copyrights, and I don't think they've been told to remove them. Such as this one: https://mezelmods.com/products/cactus-canyon-pinball-topper

Oh for sure. You can make a topper that just says "The old west" and get away with it. He was asking if anyone can make a similar topper to what is already being made. We found out that is not an option.

I don’t get the delay after delay after delay. They said games were going to ship in 4-5 weeks, 5 weeks ago. I could care less about the topper and have been enjoying my SE game for the last 6 months.

Maybe he should teach CGC how to get it done ....
Time enough for them to get a hold of a guy building a mod , but no time to update a pending customer in just under a year.

I’m constantly surprised by the surprise regarding delays. I guess some weren’t around for Afmr, mbr, etc. Cgc is like Elon. Cool products, terrible at timelines. I’m not justifying it, but is it not expected? They’re a different company. Timelines aren’t what they do. I just don’t plan on receiving the game at a specific time. No outrage needed.

I think people assumed that things would be different this time. Especially when they said they had a year plus head start on this project.