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Quoted from jfh:Your distributor is supposed to handle that.
Not in all instances. I was advised by my distributor to contact Ryan directly, which I did and never received a reply.
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Quoted from 2pupPinz:That’s it! Strapping a CCr to the trunk and bootlegging one up to you Richard! You have the patience of a saint and you deserve first dibs!
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Yeah, him and a thousand others irritatingly awaiting their CCr’s.
Quoted from sizzler747:He ordered it a year ago and still has not received it. It is apparently being held up at the Canadian border since summertime. Canada needs to certify the machine and the new boards I think and put a new electrical sticker on it from what I understand.
He can join the club.
Edmonton, AB
Quoted from transprtr4u:What time is the seminar to today, waiting for the non updates from expo?
CGC has a seminar today?
In the expo setup pictures from Knapp Arcade, I did notice in this massive lineup of CCr’s, the machine on the end has much darker legs than all of the other machines. No topper though. They have to have at least one new LE to show at Expo I would think…or hope.
4F51CB5D-D2C8-4655-BB83-4F35A6E4EC89 (resized).jpegHeard from Sara of PPS yesterday....they are still waiting to hear from Chicago about shipments of the LEs.... No new info....
only 10 days to hit a year since order. Chicago should send out some shirts "I waited a year for CCrLE and all I got was this shirt"
Quoted from jfh:Your distributor is supposed to handle that.
Quoted from Pinballer73:Not in all instances. I was advised by my distributor to contact Ryan directly, which I did and never received a reply.
I've sent several emails with no reply...distributors can only communicate what CGC tells them so if they tell them NOTHING than its crickets
Quoted from insight75:Heard from Sara of PPS yesterday....they are still waiting to hear from Chicago about shipments of the LEs.... No new info....
Sara and PPS are great...
Quoted from transprtr4u:Looks like no seminar ?
Cowards!
zero upside .... I mean what are they gonna say ?
I’ve hit the part of the curve where the newness has worn off, and I can have an objective opinion of this game. It has more depth than about half the games I own, and I’m really starting to enjoy a casual game once or twice a day, even though I’ve pretty much seen everything. I’m starting to get an appreciation for how much value there is here. The mechs and sculpts are well into Stern Premium territory, but the game is $1700 less and the quality is better. It’s just a beautiful game that makes me happy every time I walk up to it. The speaker lights, the audio, everything is just top notch.
I'm not sure the audio is top notch, that was the only thing I didn't like on the se we had. Hoping it's better on the le. I have been talking with Dan at pinwoofer about a kit for cgc games, others might want to reach out as well.
Quoted from Hayfarmer:I'm not sure the audio is top notch, that was the only thing I didn't like on the se we had. Hoping it's better on the le. I have been talking with Dan at pinwoofer about a kit for cgc games, others might want to reach out as well.
It has the same Goldwood speaker that I’ve upgraded most of my Sterns to. I’m getting to an age where half of my hearing range is gone, so I think PinWoofer would be wasted on me. That’s one of the perks of getting old: I don’t need 4k video or super high fidelity audio. 
Quoted from Medic:LEs in the house
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Review topper and mini game please
Quoted from Medic:LEs in the house
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So they DO exist!
Quoted from Charlemagne1987:So they DO exist!
Probably the same ones that were at TPF.
Quoted from Charlemagne1987:So they DO exist!
Almost that time of year. “He does exist!”
D6F7D615-34BB-422B-9A36-A880DC445DF7.jpegQuoted from Hayfarmer:I'm not sure the audio is top notch, that was the only thing I didn't like on the se we had. Hoping it's better on the le. I have been talking with Dan at pinwoofer about a kit for cgc games, others might want to reach out as well.
I think the varied game to game, I have one that sounds great, yet another I played sounds way off compared to mine.
Quoted from swampfire:It has the same Goldwood speaker that I’ve upgraded most of my Sterns to. I’m getting to an age where half of my hearing range is gone, so I think PinWoofer would be wasted on me. That’s one of the perks of getting old: I don’t need 4k video or super high fidelity audio.
I've run farm equipment for 40+ years, my hearing is shot. But the pwoofer is just so clean sounding, I'm hoping Dan can make it work 
Quoted from Hayfarmer:I'm not sure the audio is top notch, that was the only thing I didn't like on the se we had. Hoping it's better on the le. I have been talking with Dan at pinwoofer about a kit for cgc games, others might want to reach out as well.
Quoted from swampfire:I’m getting to an age where half of my hearing range is gone, so I think PinWoofer would be wasted on me. That’s one of the perks of getting old: I don’t need 4k video or super high fidelity audio.
Quoted from polishedball:I think the varied game to game, I have one that sounds great, yet another I played sounds way off compared to mine.
WPC95 (CGC) have a superior factory source track compared to earlier BW offerings (perhaps comparable to Stern Whitestar and S.A.M.). Also considering more in the field today it seems worthwhile to revisit CGC.
Once CCr's become more common in the wild we'll again consider adding the platform since there seems to be some interest out there, but it may be mixed too. (Please PM me if you are potentially interested in a PinWoofer offering for CGC, no commitment implied, just to gauge interest.)
The electronics are straightforward but there are some known speaker fit variances due to the color DMD option, under playfield obstructions (MMr), etc. Most of this can be overcome, however.
OK, nice to hear from you guys and have a great day!
Thanks,
Dan
https://PinWoofer.com
[email protected]
+1 208-855-0346, 9am - 5pm MST, Mon - Fri
Quoted from PinWoofer:WPC95 (CGC) have a superior factory source track compared to earlier BW offerings (perhaps comparable to Stern Whitestar and S.A.M.). Also considering more in the field today it seems worthwhile to revisit CGC.
Once CCr's become more common in the wild we'll again consider adding the platform since there seems to be some interest out there, but it may be mixed too. (Please PM me if you are potentially interested in a PinWoofer offering for CGC, no commitment implied, just to gauge interest.)
The electronics are straightforward but there are some known speaker fit variances due to the color DMD option, under playfield obstructions (MMr), etc. Most of this can be overcome, however.
OK, nice to hear from you guys and have a great day!
Thanks,
Dan
https://PinWoofer.com
[email protected]
+1 208-855-0346, 9am - 5pm MST, Mon - Fri
Since we’re talking about audio, I have a question:
Do CGC games, and specifically CCr, have upgraded audio fidelity as compared to their WPC counterparts?
I seem to recall one of the early marketing bullet points being that CGC had access to original audio sources (possibly even stereo?) that they could incorporate that would be considerably better than the compressed WPC DCS audio.
Quoted from Medic:LEs in the house
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those don't look like LE's..they look like SE+'s to me..I played an LE in June, and the powdercoat, apron, etc really set them apart from the standard chrome. plus no train tracks or Ore Cart..definitely SE+'s
Quoted from alveolus:Since we’re talking about audio, I have a question:
Do CGC games, and specifically CCr, have upgraded audio fidelity as compared to their WPC counterparts?
I seem to recall one of the early marketing bullet points being that CGC had access to original audio sources (possibly even stereo?) that they could incorporate that would be considerably better than the compressed WPC DCS audio.
I honestly don't know. So...I reached out to a local PinSider buddy and he's game to try it out on his MBr. (I had the original MB and it sounded pretty good with our GT setup.) Can't promise when I'll get to it but it's starting to sound like a fun field trip.
Quoted from KING-HENRY:those don't look like LE's..they look like SE+'s to me..I played an LE in June, and the powdercoat, apron, etc really set them apart from the standard chrome. plus no train tracks or Ore Cart..definitely SE+'s
I played the one on the far left. It said LE on playfield. Not positive on the other ones
Quoted from jfh:Unlike past remakes number matched games for CCr aren’t produced first
I didn’t say I was getting mine first, I was just commenting, like everyone else, that I haven’t received a final invoice yet, but thanks for your two cents
Quoted from Medic:I played the one on the far left. It said LE on playfield. Not positive on the other ones
yeah that one on the left is definitely an LE..probably the same one I played, here in Tacoma. the others are not LE's though. How did you like it? Did you get to play the topper?
Quoted from KING-HENRY:yeah that one on the left is definitely an LE..probably the same one I played, here in Tacoma. the others are not LE's though. How did you like it? Did you get to play the topper?
I didn’t get a chance to interact with it this time. I did last years expo. I like to experience it in home environment so didn’t want to spoil it too much. Can’t wait to get mine whenever that might be.
Quoted from swampfire:I’ve hit the part of the curve where the newness has worn off, and I can have an objective opinion of this game. It has more depth than about half the games I own, and I’m really starting to enjoy a casual game once or twice a day, even though I’ve pretty much seen everything. I’m starting to get an appreciation for how much value there is here. The mechs and sculpts are well into Stern Premium territory, but the game is $1700 less and the quality is better. It’s just a beautiful game that makes me happy every time I walk up to it. The speaker lights, the audio, everything is just top notch.
Some days I just go for combos, the game is set up for some amazing combos and it rewards you for them, that alone keeps me coming back every time. For me personally , I approach every game with trying to find the best flows and combos and this game feels fantastic with plenty to hit. Somehow I pulled a double orbit shot into two successive left and center ramps and it was like …. Damn that just happened?!?
Quoted from Pinballer31520:Might buy a special - so tired of the LE waiting
Just so stupid
I don’t regret changing my order from SE+ to SE at all. But if I had an LE queued up I’d probably wait.
Can someone let me know where to buy the saloon doors mod? Thank you! Just stacking up mods while I wait for the LE. 
Quoted from Jimmyhonda:Can someone let me know where to buy the saloon doors mod? Thank you! Just stacking up mods while I wait for the LE.
Any good pics or videos of the ‘LE’s’ on the floor at the expo? Would like to know if they are the ones that have been at shows over the last year, or if they’re fresh off the production line that’s supposedly going. Thanks to anyone who can confirm! 
Quoted from KING-HENRY:those don't look like LE's..they look like SE+'s to me..I played an LE in June, and the powdercoat, apron, etc really set them apart from the standard chrome. plus no train tracks or Ore Cart..definitely SE+'s
I was there (Chicago Expo) yesterday and put about 20 games on several of those CC. The one on the far left (standing alone) is a LE. The row of all of them together is a mix of LEs and SEs (example: The first one on the left in the row of them together is a LE). If you look closely at the picture, you can see the slightly darker gun metal lockdown bar.
I played both models because I wanted to make absolutely sure there was no difference in gameplay, even though the features matrix indicates this. I have a SE+ on order.
And yes, I can confirm no difference....I stunk equally on each model.
Edit: added "lockdown"
Quoted from Greaseman:And yes, I can confirm no difference....I stunk equally on each model.
The topper technically has a mini game associated with it. If you hit the beer mug enough times, you'll qualify it.
The game is played on the topper. It's essentially a glorified video mode.
So technically, there is a difference. If all you care about is the pinball piece of the game, there is no difference.
Quoted from explosiveegg:The topper technically has a mini game associated with it. If you hit the beer mug enough times, you'll qualify it.
The game is played on the topper. It's essentially a glorified video mode.
So technically, there is a difference. If all you care about is the pinball piece of the game, there is no difference.
Yep, thx - I ordered the SE+ so I will have the topper so was looking for main playfield differences. Unfortunately, I wasn't fully aware how to activate the topper so I never did during the games I played (on ones with the topper). In hindsight I should have focused on activating it because I'd like to actually "play it".
Hard to stay focused at the Expo....running around playing everything I could. ha.
Quoted from Chubbie:I was told next week.
F1EC0172-753D-439E-B5AD-D1BAF09DE99C (resized).jpegQuoted from alveolus:Indeed, someone corral Ryan or some CGC rep and shake them down for info!
Quoted from alveolus:Indeed, someone corral Ryan or some CGC rep and shake them down for info!
I can already tell you what he'll say......"soon"
Quoted from alveolus:Indeed, someone corral Ryan or some CGC rep and shake them down for info!
2 Weeks! 
Quoted from PtownPin:I can already tell you what he'll say......"soon"
Pinball is hard lol
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