I installed CCC a month or so ago and finally have it setup so that the computer boots automatically by turning on the pinball machine's power.

However, what happened today, was that I played a game with a friend and my friend had a really long game on "drunk multiball" and on top of that "mine multiball". After all the balls were played, the game was supposed to end, but for some reason the game did not notice this. It did a couple of time also the ball search, but for some reason did not notice that all the balls had already drained. Also I've noticed that on occasion that game for some reason does not play in manner that it would register all the shots properly. I've noticed that a restart of the pinball machine helps in this regard. Has there been discussion on this issue - the game does not complain of any switches, so could there be some glitch between the computer and p-roc now?

Also I had a lot of humming and static in the loudspeakers. I take sound out from the headphones-plug in the computer and it goes into Lepin amplified and from there to loudspeakers. What are the best practices to get the static into control - should one turn down the headphone volume in the computer or what? I think mine is there at the max now.

Thanks for any info! Hopefully this is the correct thread to ask, even though my questions were not purely code-related!

My CCC seems to play quite well now and I managed to sort out the humming/static issue in the loudspeakers as well.

But when playing the game today, again after Drunk Multiball, after ca. million balls had been shot to the playfield and all the balls had drained, the game did not understand to quit. Instead it kept searching for balls that were already in the ballthough. This is my problem currently with the game, but apparently other people do not have this problem? Any clues on how to sort this out would be great to get!

EDIT: just to check - is it correct that in Drunk Multiball the game keeps firing new balls on the playfield for quite a long time? They all drain at some point, but the mode lasts for quite a long time.

Thanks! My game seems to shoot endlessly balls to the game. Even without flipping the flippers, the mode lasts ca. 5 minutes and all the time its shooting balls to the game. There is something fishy there. The revision for my game is 2016.03.15 and I believe its the latest.

Thanks for the tip. I all other instances the game works fine though, the problem has occurred twice and both times after the Drunk Multiball mode. Maybe I should change/clean the opto-boards in the through just in case.

I have managed to update the CCC-code for the software and it is now running quite well.

One problem remains: sometimes when I press the start button on the pinball machine, it terminates the CCC-program and all is left is Windows desktop and the arrow cursor.

Today I tested this by wiggling the wires that go to the start-button on the pin, but nothing happened, the program continued ok. But after the wiggling, when I pressed the start-button, it terminated the CCC-program. I was able to replicate this: wiggling wires and after that pressing the start-button terminated the program.

What could be the culprit here and what could I try to fix?

Thanks, I will try it!

Here is a video of what happens when I press the start-button and the CCC crashes (I does not do this everytime and it seems the wiggling of the wires to the start button had no effect on this, so that tip was a red herring):

And here are pics of what CCC says in command prompt, when it crashes. Hopefully you can help me fix this, thanks!

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Oh damn, I think I unpacked all that I had. Should the file be called hitBetty.wav? I checked and I have ccc_sounds_20160314.zip, and its the latest I've got, but there is no such file in it.

I have:
betty-hit-dont-you-know.wav,
betty-hit-hey.wav,
betty-hit-ow.wav,
betty-hit-that-smarts.wav,
betty-hit-watch-it.wav

Hmm... I have those files.

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It seems that the last updates are from 2018 and 2019: https://soldmy.org/pin/ccc/index.php/Main_Page

I will change my CCC infrastructure when this comes available! I wonder if the Danesi board would work with a RPi4 too?

I asked from Scott Danesi whether his Computer Startup and Shutdown Controller would work with Raspberry Pi and he answered:

"If the RPi has a shutdown and startup button header, it should work"

I have not seen myself this happen, but my friends playing my CCC have reported that the computer had rebooted on some occasions.

What would be the best way to diagnose what is going on there? Should I start the CCC from a terminal window and would I that way be able to see what's up with the code or would rebooting the computer mean that its something to do with the computer system instead? In the latter case I guess I will need to wait for the code release for a RaspberryPi4.

So my question is, what is the best way to diagnose the problem when the computer reboots in the middle of the game?

Thanks! Its the computer then I guess. Well, I will put the RaspberryPi4 version then in, when its available.

I need to check my audio wiring from you all CCC-users as when I listen to the audio on the backbox's
speakers, it seems that left speaker functions ok, but the audio on the right speaker is very low if not non-existent.

In my setup the audio comes from the computer's headphone audio to a groundloop isolator and
from there to the amplifier. From the amplifier's R+ and R- output the audio goes to the left speaker
on the speaker panel at the backbox and from amplier's "Super Bass" connector the audio goes to
the subwoofer inside the cabinet. I have not connected the amplifier's L+ and L- to anywhere.

The left and right speaker on the speaker panel are connected together as they originally were.

Please tell me how to correct this so that I could get sound also from the right speaker. Maybe
the fault is that the amplifier is not directly connected to the right speaker on the speaker panel?

Please see the pics. Thank you for any help!

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I got a Pinsound speaker kit and replaced the old speakers, but replacing the speakers did not remove that static that I get before the game starts and which is there for a brief moment after the PC has shut down. It's non-existent when the CCC-program has started. I have a groundloop isolator that I have placed after the PC's headphone output and before the amplifier, but it does not seem to help.

How could I get rid of it? Strange issue, thanks for any help!

Maybe this is the reason why I see the ground loop isolators on WPC-95 machines' loudspeaker cables. On the other hand, this is not a constant static, but happens only before and after the CCC-program has started. Maybe its because I have the PC on a master/slave power outlet as a master and slaves are the Lepy 838 amplifier and the LCD-monitor (?)

I will need to experiment with the Raspberry Pi for sure at some point!

When playing CCC, I've noticed that on occasion the game loses the music and it returns then after the ball is drained and a new ball starts. What might be up with that? Thanks for any info!

Thanks for the info, for once its not just me

I guess this is ok to ask here, so here it goes: I believe owners of CCC have now had experience playing CCR also. How does the CCC-code compare to the code of the CCR (I mean the code CCR came with)? Already we know several things missing from CCC-code on the CCR, but were there surprises for the benefit of CCR? Which code do you prefer?

Gary Larson comic, which I found on the net, thought it fitting to share here: https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/far-side-cowboys-versus-aliens.jpg