Contact the distributor that did this and find out their settings.

Should be plug and play, with possible exception of picking which chute to use, left - right, center - etc.

LTG : )

Would a lucky problem to have! I’d gladly trade places with you!

That is because the answer isn't in the game manual, it will be something with the bill validator. ( other than which coin chute to use, can vary from CGC game to game, what ever your pricing is set at for coins, should work with the DBV )

Assuming for what ever reason there isn't an issue with the bill validator.

LTG : )

You might contact Talo too.

LTG : )

Huh, I didn't have any problems setting up the DBA on my CCr. It seemed about the same as doing DBAs on any of my other pins.

Only trouble I ran into, was that in order to do 3 games for $2, I had to do custom pricing, since it wasn't one of the default pricing options. But it wasn't too hard to figure out.

What is hanging you up? Sounds like maybe you need to change the pulse settings on the DBA itself. You can make a dollar bill do 1 pulse or 4, and you should be able to adjust the game settings to work either way.

EDIT: What exactly happens right now when you feed a dollar through the DBA?

He’s using a Talo which sounds like convoluted crap! Send it back to the distro and get an Mars

My 120v DBAs are Mars, but I've been using ICT DBAs for my 12v games, and haven't had any issues. The dip switch options are pretty much the same, and I haven't had any jams or issues so far. At least at the volume of bills I see in my location pins.

Mars no longer exists, so to speak.

MARS became MEI which became TALO ( bill cartridges are interchangeable between them. So if it comes with a 500 count that won't fit in the game, get a 300 count one off of Ebay or somewhere so it will fit in the game)

It's a good unit. No dip switches though. You need to mark a card and end it into the unit to change settings to your liking.

LTG : )

I use MARS/MEI interchangeably. When did they become TALO??? And get rid of the dip switches? Wtf.
Terrible.

Recently.

A lot of their previous units had dip switches or you mark a card and send it in and do it that way.

I don't have any like that yet. Going forward I'd prefer it. Take a card, mark it, send it in, push a button done. And if you have any preferences that are different from manufacturer to manufacturer, save the card and mark it Stern, jjp, CGC, what ever.

LTG : )

Everybody has gone to 12V.

Here is an option. Get 110VAC unit off of Ebay or where ever. Get a conversion harness off of Ebay or Suzo Happ. Harness plugs into service outlet. Two wires get soldered to a coin switch. Plug DBV into harness, done. If you don't want it on all the time the service outlet is on, hard wire it after the on/off switch into the game.

New DBA's are always expensive. Old used ones or rebuilt ones aren't. I picked up some rebuilt ones off of Ebay for $130 each, they looked like new.

LTG : )

You're welcome. Fill in the spaces completely.

LTG : )

Everyone except Stern, that is. They are still using high voltage for their bill validators. There’s a spot on the coin-door node board for a DBA, but as far as I was aware, Stern wasn't actually using it yet.

It's certainly not wired to the DBA harness from the factory anyway. Do you know something I don't Lloyd? I've been waiting forever for Stern to finally move to 12v.

According to Pinside they used to provide a harness too hook a 110VAC to the power supply box in the head. So some of their Spike games are 12V or a way to make 110VAC work.

LTG : )

I have a spare Pyramid Apex 7000 series 120V that is working like a champ that I was just about to list on Ebay. I have been getting 150 to 190 for previous listings(granted probably selling to operators that need up to 100 bill acceptance). If you want it for $100 + actual shipping let me know.

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I am sorry about this.

And I do wonder if you got a defective unit.

LTG : )

Yeah, this really sounds like an issue with your particular DBA unit. As there shouldn't really be anything magical or difficult about using a DBA on a CGC machine. At least not in my experience.

Correct. You have to get a cable from Stern/Distro/Marco in order to run high-voltage from the backbox to the DBA harness at the front of the game. As far as I know, that's still the only option for a Bill Validator on a Stern Spike game. Stern did this so that they didn't have to have any high voltage in the cabinet near the player. Easier safety certification, or so I'm told.

Which is all the more reason for Stern to finally adopt the 12v DBA. Although, there are a lot of High-Voltage DBAs out there, so it's Pros and Cons really. What would really be great is if Stern wired their games for 12v, but still let you use the high voltage pass-through cable for legacy DBAs. Best of both worlds then.

ebay.com link: itm

If anybody wants to bid on the above referenced Bill acceptor.
Good luck Op,you will get it pressed out, sorry you had a minor fiasco.

Hey folks… I’ve got a CC Special Edition about to go on location with a working Mars 2451.

Problem is, the rapid speed of the simulated coin pulses appear to be too fast for the game to recognize them.

Shows up fine in switch test with the expected number of pulses, but they just don’t translate to credits.

Dig around the Williams software, you should be able to pick a slower pulse in pricing adjustments. Also be sure the DBA is set for gaming and not vending.

LTG : )

Thanks LTG… is the DBA arcade/vending selection somewhere other than the dip switches?

BTW, this is a CC by Chicago Gaming. Have opened a ticket regarding the pricing/pulse speed issue… will report back.

If the DBV doesn't have it, then no.

I left it for the engineer.

I had an issue with mine not giving the right credits. I tried a factory reset ( DON'T DO THAT ) which straightened things out. And made the train go the wrong direction. There is another menu I had to dig around in to fix that.

See what CGC says.

LTG : )

I bailed on the Mars 2451 and bought a brand new ICT 12v A6-23SCP-USD4-II validator.

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Fits, plugs in, works, 300 bill capacity. Easy peasy. Should have done this from the start.

I use these settings:

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And dip switches set to:

#1 off
#2 off
#3 on (to reject $10 bills)
#4 on (to reject $20 bills)
#5 off
#6 on
#7 on
#8 off

and smaller bank:

#1 off (one pulse/one dollar)
#2 off (one pulse/one dollar)
#3 off (50/50 pulse speed)
#4 off (50/50 pulse speed)

I block $10 and $20 because people might want change back at those higher denominations… obviously not happening, and that’s a lot of play.

Furthermore would recommend setting max # of extra balls to 1. Otherwise the wizards will stack balls for hours.