(Topic ID: 114316)

Cabinet Stencils, Possible to use them twice?


By 80spit

4 years ago



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    #1 4 years ago

    I have 2 Gorgars I am semi restoring and the cabinets on both are a bit rough. I was thinking of buying
    a Stencil kit but It sure would be nice if I could use one kit to do both cabs. I have not done a cab stencil
    yet and just wondering if its possible to use them or are they a once and done deal??

    #2 4 years ago

    Stencils are reuseable. The problem is they can tear in thin areas when you lift them off after spraying. As long as you are careful with them they can be used over and over again.

    #3 4 years ago

    No stencils are not reusable. They are cut usually from a thin stencil vinyl and are intended to be a one time application. It's impossible to remove them without stretching or tearing them at some point and even more unlikely you'd ever successfully put them back on the backing paper you would need to reinstall them.

    #4 4 years ago

    I used stencils on 2 cabinet restores. There was no way I could have reused either of the stencils. I was trying to be carefull when removing them but between paint build-up and stretching it would just be easier to buy new. Not saying it's impossible, just wasn't happening for me.

    #5 4 years ago

    Stencils are NOT reusable....I have done 14 Cabinet restorations and never would have been able to reuse any of the stencils!

    #6 4 years ago

    Pinballmike217 is right, You can reuse stencils, but I don't think more than 3 times.
    I bought one stencil set to paint this game.
    But I must say that it's extremely hard not to stretch the venyl film, it's also very hard to apply the stencils a second and third time well to prevent bleeding, but with that said, it'a possible.

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    #7 4 years ago

    Bummer, I guess I'm wrong because everyone says so. I wonder how I stenciled this cabinet and then reused the stencils again to customize the inside of the cabinet.

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    #8 4 years ago
    Quoted from Pinballmike217:

    Bummer, I guess I'm wrong because everyone says so. I wonder how I stenciled this cabinet and then reused the stencils again to customize the inside of the cabinet.

    Great job on that cabinet. looks awesome, I think I am going to try it. nothing lost even If I only get
    one cab to look great. I am bringing 2 Gorgars back from the dead. I have 3 of them right now. It's going to be hard to part with them after giving them all this love. Both these where basket cases when I got them. Now all electronics are working on both and finishing cosmetics next. Sure feels good to save them
    Thanks for all the info guys

    #9 4 years ago
    Quoted from 80spit:

    Great job on that cabinet. looks awesome, I think I am going to try it. nothing lost even If I only get
    one cab to look great. I am bringing 2 Gorgars back from the dead. I have 3 of them right now. It's going to be hard to part with them after giving them all this love. Both these where basket cases when I got them. Now all electronics are working on both and finishing cosmetics next. Sure feels good to save them
    Thanks for all the info guys

    Good luck, stencils can be tricky. They are probably not intended to reused but if you're careful it is definately possible.

    #10 4 years ago

    From my experience, you definitely will have a hard time reusing any of the Classic Arcades stencils. The vinyl is super thin and you couldn't even remove it from the cab without tearing it.

    I'm about to finish a Space Shuttle with Twisted Pins Stencil, maybe that will be easier to remove...

    -Wes

    #11 4 years ago
    Quoted from copperpot:

    From my experience, you definitely will have a hard time reusing any of the Classic Arcades stencils. The vinyl is super thin and you couldn't even remove it from the cab without tearing it.
    I'm about to finish a Space Shuttle with Twisted Pins Stencil, maybe that will be easier to remove...
    -Wes

    I have read nothing but bad about Classic Arcades stuff, Its sad because they offer a lot of great items. Hope they do better on the Overlays PPS was talking about having made
    I am planning on going with Twisted Pins stencils.

    #12 4 years ago

    I know there is stencil software out there where someone can pick apart artwork, I'm sure there is a way to transfer it and to start making a solid form of stencils for re-use. Not sure why anyone hasn't attempted this yet.

    #13 4 years ago

    There is no way you will be able to reuse Twisted Pins stencils. The adhesive is so strong the stencils need to be ripped off-in some cases removing paint!!

    #14 4 years ago
    Quoted from ALJO:

    Pinballmike217 is right, You can reuse stencils, but I don't think more than 3 times.
    I bought one stencil set to paint this game.
    But I must say that it's extremely hard not to stretch the venyl film, it's also very hard to apply the stencils a second and third time well to prevent bleeding, but with that said, it'a possible.

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    What did you make in this photo? You have a video?

    #15 4 years ago
    Quoted from DaHammer12:

    I know there is stencil software out there where someone can pick apart artwork, I'm sure there is a way to transfer it and to start making a solid form of stencils for re-use. Not sure why anyone hasn't attempted this yet.

    I would tempted to think that no one attempted a solid form of stencils now a days because they would lose money, it's cost affective for the customer but not for seller.
    I'm curious to know how the games were factory painted back in the 70's and 80's?
    Did they use solid stencils?
    I would think so, otherwise it would'nt be very cost affective.
    They made 19500 Williams Flash pins, that's 72 games a day if you count only week days in a 1 year spand, imagine stencilling and painting 72 games a day with venyl stencils, all of the labor it would take.......

    #16 4 years ago
    Quoted from danczaz:

    What did you make in this photo? You have a video?

    Yep!
    Here it is:

    #17 4 years ago
    Quoted from Pinballmike217:

    Bummer, I guess I'm wrong because everyone says so. I wonder how I stenciled this cabinet and then reused the stencils again to customize the inside of the cabinet.

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    Now that is one nice paint job.
    Nice work.

    #18 4 years ago

    I have recently cut stencils from MDF board using tracing paper, affix the trace to the MDF and cut out with jigsaw per the early EM factory process. It was an easy process and reusable continuously.

    #19 4 years ago
    Quoted from ALJO:

    Yep!
    Here it is:
    » YouTube video

    Did you have a post on this?

    #20 4 years ago

    removing a few bits of a stencil to put in the bottom of a cab is a far cry from a whole cab The amount of time you spend futzing with trying to reuse something like that is just not worth it even if you consider your time worth minimum wage.

    I wish a truly reusable stencil was cost effective, but it's far from it really. By the time you pay to cnc metal or wood as opposed to plotter cutting vinyl you're at a cost greater than 2 sets of stencils to begin with, so unless you're one of that less than 2% of people that do more than one restoration of a particular cab the value just isn't there in a reusable version. However, i'm sure if you really do need to do 3 or more of a single cab it's worth it to ask one of the stencil makers to get a set laser cut from metal for you.

    #21 4 years ago

    #22 4 years ago
    Quoted from danczaz:

    Did you have a post on this?

    Not my post but I commented it:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/triple-head-to-head-jungle-lord

    Another post on another forum made a few years ago when the game just got finished, sorry for the few french posts but most are in english.
    http://www.maaca.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6268&hilit=Jungle+Lord+Gold+edition&start=25

    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from ALJO:

    Not my post but I commented it:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/triple-head-to-head-jungle-lord
    Another post on another forum made a few years ago when the game just got finished, sorry for the few french posts but most are in english.
    http://www.maaca.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6268&hilit=Jungle+Lord+Gold+edition&start=25

    That was awesome! I can read French ok so no problems. Super cool!!!

    #24 4 years ago
    Quoted from danczaz:

    That was awesome! I can read French ok so no problems. Super cool!!!

    Thanks.
    I had been thinking of making a triple head to head pinball machine for many years before making it, I owned every single head to head pin that exists and loved those games, so this was my top notch "mind" project, I examined every 80's pins carefully to choose the one that would perfectly fit what I had in mind for this project and decided that Jungle Lord was the perfect candidate.

    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from ALJO:

    Thanks.
    I had been thinking of making a triple head to head pinball machine for many years before making it, I owned every single head to head pin that exists and loved those games, so this was my top notch "mind" project, I examined every 80's pins carefully to choose the one that would perfectly fit what I had in mind for this project and decided that Jungle Lord was the perfect candidate.

    That is awesome. Amazing job. Why not start another thread and let everyone see it? That is too good not to share.

    #26 4 years ago
    Quoted from gamestencils:

    removing a few bits of a stencil to put in the bottom of a cab is a far cry from a whole cab The amount of time you spend futzing with trying to reuse something like that is just not worth it even if you consider your time worth minimum wage.
    I wish a truly reusable stencil was cost effective, but it's far from it really. By the time you pay to cnc metal or wood as opposed to plotter cutting vinyl you're at a cost greater than 2 sets of stencils to begin with, so unless you're one of that less than 2% of people that do more than one restoration of a particular cab the value just isn't there in a reusable version. However, i'm sure if you really do need to do 3 or more of a single cab it's worth it to ask one of the stencil makers to get a set laser cut from metal for you.

    Maybe you should reread the title of this thread. The OP simply asked if it was possible to reuse stencils. It is. He didn't ask if it was worth the time or not. And for the record I did not remove a "few bits" I saved the entire set. You have no idea of what I did so don't attempt to speak for me. I saved my stencils. If it's not worth your time to save yours that's your choice. I think the quality of my restorations speak for themselves, so for me it's definitely worth the time.

    #27 4 years ago

    The stencils that Pinball Pal sold could be used multiple times, with very little effort. I used a Playboy set 5 times.

    I needed to do 3 Eight Balls and did not want to spend the $ for 3 sets. I made my own out of thicker adhesive vinyl using tracing paper and a stencil cutter. It took me 10 hours to make the set but they can be reused multiple times. Had to apply spray adhesive after the first time. Cost to make the set was around $50.

    Plan to do the same thing for a Pinbot since I have 3 to rework.

    Best of luck, Bob

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    #28 4 years ago
    Quoted from ALJO:

    Pinballmike217 is right, You can reuse stencils, but I don't think more than 3 times.
    I bought one stencil set to paint this game.
    But I must say that it's extremely hard not to stretch the venyl film, it's also very hard to apply the stencils a second and third time well to prevent bleeding, but with that said, it'a possible.

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    Is that a double header JL? I need to see more, please!

    #29 4 years ago
    Quoted from dtown:

    Is that a double header JL? I need to see more, please!

    No, it's a triple header JL.
    Check a few posts further in this thread and you'll have more info.

    #30 4 years ago

    I used poster board to make stencil for Gottlieb Dimension EM. After I did my pin they were used 2 more times w/out problem.

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