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B/W vs newer machines

By Luppin

7 years ago


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    #6 7 years ago

    You just need to play a lot more games. Some awesome stuff has been made in the last few years. I have never understood the b/w people that hate on stern. Comes across as silly and petty.

    The comparison to Data east is rediculous. Stern is known for its deep complete code and fast playing dependable games. People love to just forget all of the stinkers that B/W made in the 90's. Not everything was a home run, several really bad games with code debacles.

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    #27 7 years ago
    Quoted from Luppin:

    Ok, I understand that, after a couple years revisions, newer Stern have usually good code and deep rules. Personally, I quite like deep rules, but what is for me way more important, way above anything else, is GAMEPLAY and FUN. This is why I also love System 11 machines: simple rules but often great fun. So, if the deep rules help improving the overall experience, thats great. But I am skeptical about deep rules if the gameplay is not fun. For example, I do not like at all long ball time: for me playing pinball means being on my toes all the time, regarding the skills of controlling the ball. If the ball never drains and the rules are very deep, well, then that become something like a strategic board game really, not a proper pinball machine!
    So, under this viewpoint, how do newer Stern machines compare with '90 B/W? Basically, how the balls flow and is gameplay creating adrenaline?

    Deep code and short ball times don't go very well together. Try out TWD, IM, TRON, GB and Mustang. They should be right up your alley.

    #122 7 years ago
    Quoted from Taxman:

    What's wrong with Popeye?
    Let's see the love for this list 25 years from now -
    Harley-Davidson, Striker Xtreme, Sharkey's Shootout, High Roller Casino, Austin Powers, Monopoly, NFL, Playboy, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Terminator 3, Elvis, Grand Prix, The Sopranos, NASCAR, World Poker Tour, Dale Jr. , Wheel Of Fortune, Shrek, Indiana Jones, CSI, NBA, 24, Big Buck Hunter Pro, Avatar, The Rolling Stones, Transformers, The Avengers, X-Men, Mustang, Wrestlemania, KISS
    Dude, IJ4 !!!!

    There's lots of games on that list that compare very well to many of the B and C level B/W games. Monopoly, Sopranos, Nascar, WPT, Shrek, Elvis, Avatar, Transformers, Avengers, X-Men, Mustang and KISS are all solid enough games that are fun to play in my opinion. Very comparable to RFM, BOP, CP, NF, DH, BR, JM, Corvette, DM, DH, Jackbot, Flinstones, Popeye, NBA Fastbreak, etc. In fact I would much rather have that list of stern games then the list of B/W games.

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