I think it usually happens when they have a new release or 2 and everyone gobbles them up quick. THen you have to wait awhile for them to re-up their stock.

EDIT: Remember which machine it is really doens't matter, all the WPC for example use the same one just diff'rent software, so they'll all appear to be unavailable.

Yep they are just out of stock. Was going to pull the trigger and he said they were out. However now that I went to Ann Arbor pinball show not sure if I am going LED or LCD so appreciating the extra time to ponder....

Curious, which did you like better in person? I'm leaning towards the LED because of cost, but am wondering which one to get when they come back in.

LED MUCH brighter, can only do dots, no fat dots which you need to watch videos of to see if you like. I go (EDIT scan mode?- fat pizels) myself but everyone is diff'rent.
THe LEDs can be turned down though, but damn they dazzle the eye for sure.

I'm surprised people like the LCD over LED so much - so much clarity on the LED model, and with how picky pinball people are, I figured they'd go for that one. I think that one looks GREAT.

They're just running low on stock right now probably.

I know a lot of people just ordered a bunch of them for a big ColorDMD display they're going to have at Pin A Go Go next weekend.

(I'm thinking 20+ games with displays in them at least)

Yeah, I think I'm just going to go LED; but will check out the Dots XL to be sure...They both look good to me on YouTube, but tough to tell.

Thx for the info.

I am a mostly a LCD guy, but when it came to Dr Who, I went LED so I wouldn't have to worry about the lamp board below it. LED is a good choice in Dr Who.

I personally love DotsXL on the LCD but the LED looks great too!

I would go LED if it's a game that's required for size purposes (Like CV or any Data East game e.t.c.)

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Yep, went to order one today and they are out...darn

I can't get past the quality of the Hi-Res images, which is why I feel most people go with LCD. I'm a dots guy, and some games will have great DMD images meant for dots. Not a fan of the Hi-Res images at all. Have you seen LOTR with colorDMD Hi-Res? Looks like a 5 yr old drew up those images...

For me, the high-res images really shine in games with actual video that was converted to Dots (Like Transformers, IM, e.t.c.)

I think people get excited these days whenever anything LED is cheaper

Which do you guys think will look best in a family guy.. LCD or LED??

LCD for sure...it's a cartoon so the LCD makes it look...like a cartoon

What about Dracula & Congo which displays would look better!?

Aside from the preference some have for the various rendering modes the LCD offers, there are some other things to consider as downsides to the LED, in my opinion.

The biggest one is that the levels from bright to dim are not an even ramp with LEDs, as the brightness gets lower, the difference between each 'shade' is not as distinct. This doesn't matter much on older games with only 3 levels (bright, mid and dim) but on the newer Stern games with 12 and 16 (spike) levels of brightness, the darker stuff gets very 'muddy' (or however you would describe it).

Then there's also the fact that a dot that is more dim on the LED is actually a smaller point of light, so you start to get separation in the colors and gaps in the image. With the LCD, the dots are always the same size, they're just not as bright.

IMHO, the newer stern stuff always looks better on the LCD.

I went with LED for my TFTC. I didn't like that I had to cut up my speaker panel to fit the LCD close enough, and have the potential for something to go wrong or not be satisfied with seeing through the sides of the panel past the LCD monitor, which I've seen on a few LCD examples out and about. They may have been setup wrong, but that was my impression of them. Now, your Dr Who may have a friendlier setup to fit an LCD monitor than Data East's TFTC.

I do agree with TheLaw and that any cartoon games look amazing in LCD and fit the mold to replicate an actual cartoon. I would do LCD if I had a Simpsons, Family Guy, etc.

Also, in the Data East games, the LCD monitor is much taller than the original DMD speaker panel, and it blocks a small section of lower line of LEDs lighting up your translite. For me, I didn't want to do that and felt it was too much to mod this game. The LED dots look amazing and it fits like a glove. Plus, it allows me to stay within the original technology the game was meant to have, but add a little twist of color. Again, it looks AMAZING.

This is just my opinion and the route I went. I honestly think you cannot go wrong either way, and those with LCD in their TFTC's look really great as well. I had to chat with ColorDMD about something after receiving my order and they were fast and super helpful. My game's playing experience has been elevated by this simple addition of color. I love it.

COLORDMD IS A GREAT INVESTMENT!!!!!!!
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I am still torn after spending a ton of time looking at both (I went with a friend so whenever she was playing I was obsessed looking at the DMDs - especially where the LED and LCDs were very close to each other).

I love the vibrant colors of the LED for sure. TFTC looked really good. However the images were not as crisp and easy to see/read as the LCD. I did not like the LCD hi res that looked like a cartoon unless you are going to put it on a cartoon game. For me some lines/breaks like the large dots LCD looked great.

Very noticeable to me was the black backing of the LED compared to the lighter backing of the LCD. It just did not look as crisp when blending in with other blacks on the game.

So think I am going LED for lower cost/better blacks/better tie in with speaker lights/I like dots - gonna be a lost art with the new LCD games now coming out/easier fit/lower power consumption/better viewing from side

However I think I am making myself mental over analyzing this as either way LED/LCD - the color blows away the orange. You see so many images you never did before.

The led looks great in Iron Man and Tales. Lcd in all other machines I have. The led is brighter and the lcd smoother and darker. Both are a great improvement!!

Everyone likes a different flavor. I prefer the hi res but don't remember seeing one at Expo (surprise surprise surprise!). Tried to order one this morning for the incoming ACDC, outta stock.
For that particular machine, whaddya guys recommend?

Going LCD again this time into Godzilla ... Apologies to the "old school" just can't look at the standard DMD Orange anymore!
Dam you ColorDMD keep up the great effort.

That's actually what I was planning to order for tonight myself... guess that boat sailed.

I have led in mb ss cftbl afm smv and bdk....all awesome. I have lcd in imv but wish it was led. The movie scenes just dont cut it in lcd so I don't see the point myself. The led is so crisp....
Also had some warranty issues and Randy has been straight on it....very good service compared to say pjnsound which have been so slow in responding to issues.

I have LCD in CONGO... I have LCD in all my DMD games as I prefer the Hi Res/smoothing. To me it is a personal preference thing, your game do what you like. The LCD has more options as far as how you set it up ie. Dots XL, Hi Res., dots, tiles etc. I prefer the smoothing and the choices I get with the LCD.

Phoebe

Agreed.

On the subject of Colour DMD. Can I fit a colourDMD LCD to my spike. GoT. I have the power tap but just wanted to check.

Needs the same 'metal backbox' mounting kit as the other newer sterns. Standoffs and the new clear window.

Thanks epthegeek

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